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To Mask or not to two - Mask Megathread cont.

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    #2372
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1336633066824077312


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    #2373
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Seanergy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1336633066824077312

    One rule for the plebs, another for the elite. You'd think all party leaders would be well briefed on this deadly disease that is ravaging the planet and take necessary precautions.


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    #2374
    Sconsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    One rule for the plebs, another for the elite. You'd think all party leaders would be well briefed on this deadly disease that is ravaging the planet and take necessary precautions.

    No it's the same rules for him, he just fsked up, I'm sure he regrets. It's not like he went out of his way to make up lies about having a mental illness or some imaginary doctor friend that would give him a fake letter.


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    #2375
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Sconsey wrote: »
    No it's the same rules for him, he just fsked up, I'm sure he regrets. It's not like he went out of his way to make up lies about having a mental illness or some imaginary doctor friend that would give him a fake letter.

    But did he lie about his reason for taking off or not putting on his mask?

    https://twitter.com/lauradowling__/status/1336668982175264771

    He has been a strong advocate for face masks, heavily criticising the last government for the “chronic disaster” in communications around wearing them.


    He told the Dáil in June: “Nobody should get on public transport without a mask, full stop. People should wear masks in retail outlets to protect workers. They deserve respect and to be protected.”


    In October he said the Government needed to be clearer in calling on the public to wear masks instead of visors.


    “We have to communicate to the public and get across the difference between bloody visors and proper masks. There is a huge difference. I have stressed it for a week to the Taoiseach and the Minister for Health. We really need to deal with this and we need to practice what we preach in here,” he told the Dáil.



    https://www.independent.ie/news/i-was-distracted-watching-man-united-labour-leader-alan-kelly-apologises-for-not-wearing-mask-on-public-transport-39844145.html


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    #2376
    bush
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    Sconsey wrote: »
    I'm sure he regrets.

    Im sure he does :pac:


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    #2377
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    No benefit to mask outdoors when socially distancing, says Covid-19 infection control expert Prof Martin.

    This HSE 'expert' is dangerous, his advice was well documented in thread 1, he was solely responsible for reducing the COVID-19 committee down to two working hours a day and for the relocating of Dail buissness to the convention center. BTW he is on north of 300,000 this year.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-benefit-to-mask-outdoors-when-socially-distancing-says-professor-1.4424311

    It's moments like this where I long for Wibbs to rejoin the thread.


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    #2378
    Pitch n Putt
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    Great mask etiquette from our glorious leader the good Dr Holohan.

    Takes his mask off at briefing and throws it down on the table.


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    #2379
    Sconsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Pitch n Putt wrote: »
    Great mask etiquette from our glorious leader the good Dr Holohan.

    Takes his mask off at briefing and throws it down on the table.

    Dear God no, which one of the emergency services did you call?


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    #2380
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Sconsey wrote: »
    Dear God no, which one of the emergency services did you call?

    Idiotic comment.

    Your big hero should practice what he preaches.


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    #2381
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Gardaí told to give people several chances to comply before taking action.

    Gardaí have this week received a direction from headquarters that the payment system for on-the-spot fines for breaches of Covid-19 regulations is now active, allowing officers to issue fines of €80 per offence.

    The memo also details the differences in the law regarding public transport and public premises. On public transport, a “relevant person”, typically the driver, has legal authority to tell someone to wear a mask. They can then tell the passenger to leave if they refuse.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-fines-system-for-face-mask-breaches-comes-online-1.4431592


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    #2382
    Jim_Hodge
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    Pitch n Putt wrote: »
    Great mask etiquette from our glorious leader the good Dr Holohan.

    Takes his mask off at briefing and throws it down on the table.

    You mean the table that's sanitised before and after the briefing? Perfectly fine.


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    #2383
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You mean the table that's sanitised before and after the briefing? Perfectly fine.

    Still highly ignorant to just throw it down on the table.


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    #2384
    Sconsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Pitch n Putt wrote: »
    Still highly ignorant to just throw it down on the table.

    So your big issue is how he put the mask on the table...you have little to be worrying about. Still it gave you an opportunity to try to ridicule the CMO, you failed but keep trying.


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    #2385
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Pitch n Putt wrote: »
    Still highly ignorant to just throw it down on the table.

    Ach I give up!

    You're easily annoyed.


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    #2386
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You mean the table that's sanitised before and after the briefing? Perfectly fine.

    BTW it was a table cloth not a hard surface, can't see it being sanitized, maybe rolled up and washed, maybe. But for once pitch n putt has a raised a valid talking point, even though his tone is somewhat derogative towards the CMO.

    The CMO should be leading by example, the nation is watching, it's a prime next level indirect educational opportunity.

    Let's say he unfolded a napkin or a tissue to place his mask on, how many people would pick up on that and repeat it, it could just be a spare peice of paper from his folder that he lays out for his mask and folds up into itself aftwerwards.

    It's the little things.

    Meanwhile this evening we have Clinical chief HSE, Minister of Health and TD advocating for student nurses simultaneously doing in-studio maskless interviews. There is a time and a place for keeping your mask on indoors and also for video conferencing.


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    #2387
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Seanergy wrote: »
    The memo also details the differences in the law regarding public transport and public premises. On public transport, a “relevant person”, typically the driver, has legal authority to tell someone to wear a mask. They can then tell the passenger to leave if they refuse.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-fines-system-for-face-mask-breaches-comes-online-1.4431592

    Public transport

    If you have a reasonable excuse to not wear a face covering, you should tell the driver or inspector. Read ‘Exceptions’ below for information on reasonable excuses.

    Drivers of a public transport vehicle do not have to wear a face covering if they are:

    Alone in a compartment
    Separated from passengers by a screen
    In the vehicle but there are no passengers getting on or off

    Members of the Garda Síochána do not have to wear a face covering when performing their duties.

    They must be all immune


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    #2388
    Seanergy
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    Lex Luthor wrote: »

    Drivers of a public transport vehicle do not have to wear a face covering if they are:

    Alone in a compartment
    Separated from passengers by a screen
    In the vehicle but there are no passengers getting on or off

    Members of the Garda Síochána do not have to wear a face covering when performing their duties.
    They must be all immune

    Not immune just the by product of idiotic thinking.

    What we are looking at here is policy and law that has been shaped from the droplet heavy and socially distanced stance that the HSE held at the time in May. Would not surprise me in the slightest if Cormican the Cabbage was responsible for penmanship.


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    #2389
    PTH2009
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    Will people learn to put there masks on properly and not make it cut out there vision. The amount of times people just barrage out or walk towards you. ****ing people :mad::mad::mad:


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    #2390
    Seanergy
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    Since Monday, when the refusal to wear face coverings was added to the Fixed Charge Notice (FCN) system, three people have been issued with fines across the Republic, seven weeks after the new offences were created.


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    #2391
    is_that_so
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Will people learn to put there masks on properly and not make it cut out there vision. The amount of times people just barrage out or walk towards you. ****ing people :mad::mad::mad:
    Well there's always YouTube, so you can rant and make a helpful video for them! ;)


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    #2392
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Anyone aware of RTE's no mask policy for lip-reading?

    https://twitter.com/johnmayo/status/1337460182478188545


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    #2393
    Seanergy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Vaccinated people will still need to wear a mask.

    New vaccines should protect you from Covid. It’s unclear if they stop you spreading the virus.

    That’s because the Pfizer and Moderna trials tracked only how many vaccinated people became sick with Covid-19. That leaves open the possibility that some vaccinated people get infected without developing symptoms and could then silently transmit the virus – especially if they come in close contact with others or stop wearing masks.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/vaccinated-people-will-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-here-s-why-1.4431897


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    #2394
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Seanergy wrote: »
    Vaccinated people will still need to wear a mask.

    New vaccines should protect you from Covid. It’s unclear if they stop you spreading the virus.

    That’s because the Pfizer and Moderna trials tracked only how many vaccinated people became sick with Covid-19. That leaves open the possibility that some vaccinated people get infected without developing symptoms and could then silently transmit the virus – especially if they come in close contact with others or stop wearing masks.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/vaccinated-people-will-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-here-s-why-1.4431897


    Waste of time so....

    We need life to get back to normal. Not all this restrictions etc

    It’s time to move on people.


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    #2395
    Seanergy
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    Pitch n Putt wrote: »
    Waste of time so....

    We need life to get back to normal. Not all this restrictions etc

    It’s time to move on people.

    Most of your posts are.

    You are still unwilling to accept there is no back to normal. It's been pointed out many times on this thread many times that masks are not a restriction, if people had to wear them whilst in the pub or eating in a restauant maybe you would have a small point, but they don't have to yet.

    If you want to move on from this thread, by all means go for it.


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    #2396
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Seanergy wrote: »
    Most of your posts are.

    You are still unwilling to accept there is no back to normal. It's been pointed out many times on this thread many times that masks are not a restriction, if people had to wear them whilst in the pub or eating in a restauant maybe you would have a small point, but they don't have to yet.

    If you want to move on from this thread, by all means go for it.

    Absolute nonsense. “There is no back to normal”, absolute scutter. We’ll be back to normal by this time next year, if not months before that.


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    #2397
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. “There is no back to normal”, absolute scutter. We’ll be back to normal by this time next year, if not months before that.

    How can you say that when the people developing the vaccines don't know how the vaccines work and if it stops people transmitting it? What qualifications do you hold and what background do you have to dismiss these scientists working on the vaccines?


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    #2398
    John O.Groats
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. “There is no back to normal”, absolute scutter. We’ll be back to normal by this time next year, if not months before that.

    Nope. Apart from Covid altogether the dramatic fall in cases of the flu so far this season should mean that mask wearing at least will be here to stay.


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    #2399
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Nope. Apart from Covid altogether the dramatic fall in cases of the flu so far this season should mean that mask wearing at least will be here to stay.

    You and all here along with Dr Holohan are in for some surprise if you think mask wearing is going to be a long term thing.

    It ain’t going to happen especially as most are only wearing the stupid yolks as a means to go into a shop etc.

    There’s not a hope it’s going to continue.


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    #2400
    Away With The Fairies
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    Pitch n Putt wrote: »
    You and all here along with Dr Holohan are in for some surprise if you think mask wearing is going to be a long term thing.

    It ain’t going to happen especially as most are only wearing the stupid yolks as a means to go into a shop etc.

    There’s not a hope it’s going to continue.

    Have you any ideas when the pandemic will end? You seem to know more, I'd like to plan for when it's over.


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    #2401
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Have you any ideas when the pandemic will end? You seem to know more, I'd like to plan for when it's over.

    It’s over whenever people decide for themselves it’s over. Complete ridiculous overreaction to the whole thing once we actually knew what we were dealing with from June onwards.


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