Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

yourdeadwright

Claw Hammer wrote: »

No.

Why not , its a wedding only so you'll be only mixing with the same 25 people from the ceremony ?

Tenzor07

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I see travel is classed as essential or appropriate
Is it appropriate to drive 10 minutes into Meath to your wedding venue less that 24 after restriction ?

It's not appropriate to pick up the plastic lids at a petrol station coffee/tea area and pull them apart to pick out one lid, then place them back, unless you have just put clean gloves on...

dundalkfc10

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Why not , its a wedding only so you'll be only mixing with the same 25 people from the ceremony ?

I'd be more worried what you might catch in Meath

ILoveYourVibes

The opened the schools etc. You can't open everything.

WhiteMemento9

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

You don't get to go out and stab someone to death and then just say I am just living my life.

I think the lad was going for a hike in Wicklow.

Comparing that to going out to stab someone to death is a good example of Covid-Hysteria.

Claw Hammer

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Why not , its a wedding only so you'll be only mixing with the same 25 people from the ceremony ?

Typical Irish attitude, what harm am I doing? That's why this virus is now rampant.

dundalkfc10

Be some crowds in pubs in Ashbourne, Bray, Kildare and Drogheda next week

stockshares

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the lad was going for a hike in Wicklow.

Comparing that to going out to stab someone to death is a good example of Covid-Hysteria.

Yeh but he was then going for lunch:)

whiskeyman

What happens to college students coming back up to Dublin next week?

Are they to stay at home?
Or are colleges under the schools banner of essential?

FionnK86

whiskeyman wrote: »

What happens to college students coming back up to Dublin next week?

Are they to stay at home?
Or are colleges under the schools banner of essential?

You can travel up for education.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-to-be-cut-off-from-rest-of-country-for-next-three-weeks-as-concerning-trends-emerge-in-three-other-counties-39538525.html

whiskeyman

FionnK86 wrote: »

You can travel up for education.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-to-be-cut-off-from-rest-of-country-for-next-three-weeks-as-concerning-trends-emerge-in-three-other-counties-39538525.html

Thank you!
This really is a comms disaster.

The_Brood

I've read it three times now and still don't understand what exactly the difference is between Level 2 and 3. I guess it will only affect people who have been having massive house parties?

dundalkfc10

FionnK86 wrote: »

You can travel up for education.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-to-be-cut-off-from-rest-of-country-for-next-three-weeks-as-concerning-trends-emerge-in-three-other-counties-39538525.html

Good luck with keeping them social distanced and no partying

John_Rambo

The ramifications of the Dublin lockdown will be felt nationwide and they'll be huge.

For those (and there's a good few of you) calling for a Dublin lockdown because of bigoted and childish begrudger sports reasons remember that economic activity in the Greater Dublin Area accounts for over 50% of Ireland’s GDP, Dublin represents 40.1% (€109,610m) of the State’s total GVA. The Greater Dublin Area generates 58% of Ireland’s personal income tax revenue, while Dublin alone generates 51%.
The Greater Dublin Area generates 67% of Ireland’s corporate tax revenue, while Dublin alone generates 63%. Dublin has 31.7% of the country’s working population and 62% of those employed in Ireland’s financial, ICT, communication and professional services sectors are located in the Greater Dublin Area.

Dublin is home to the top 5 global software companies, 9 of the world’s top 10 pharmaceutical companies, half of the world’s top 50 banks, 250 global financial institutions, 12 of the world’s top 20 insurance companies, 18 of the world’s top 25 med tech companies and the top 4 global aviation leasers.

Whilst restrictions are needed and people need to take responsibly, it's important that we don't start turning against each other like the rats in a sewer on this thread and on other platforms. Finger pointing, blame culturism, "needing to know who's infected" and all the other nastiness veiled as concern for vulnerable people isn't washing well.

You're making fools of yourselves and in years to come you'll be viewed as the craven weak that folded in the pandemic.

The rats in the sewer.

facehugger99

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Typical Irish attitude, what harm am I doing? That's why this virus is now rampant.

0.001% of the population currently hospitalized with it.

Terrifying stuff altogether.

FionnK86

FionnK86 wrote: »

You can travel up for education.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-to-be-cut-off-from-rest-of-country-for-next-three-weeks-as-concerning-trends-emerge-in-three-other-counties-39538525.html

Even so I'd be surprised if they don't keep colleges online only until it goes back to level 2. Train loads of students from every corner of Ireland coming into Dublin on the Sunday and heading back again on Friday with bin bags of dirty washing doesn't make much sense in a level 3 context.

yourdeadwright

facehugger99 wrote: »

0.001% of the population currently hospitalized with it.

Terrifying stuff altogether.

Only 99.999 % of us will survive

Tenzor07

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Only 99.999 % of us will survive

Life... Where no one gets out alive....

thebaz

The poster country for the lockdown strategy , facing its biggest recession in decades :-
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54186359

This is a virus we have to learn to live with it , it is impossible to stop, bar a 3 month Wuhan style lockdown, that will only return once we open up again, so much more pain than just Covid , and as poster above says , causing divisions in society between extremists on both sides.
Said it loads, but why is no one in authority promoting the benefits of Vitamin D that seams to help avoid the severity of Covid by some ?

Pinoy adventure

I'm from Dublin are away in mayo until Sunday.if Dublin enters lockdown will I be able too go home on Sunday afternoon/evening ?

yawhat?

road_high wrote: »

Oh shut up would ya, look at the stats and engage your brain ffs. This virus is relatively minor and all these mania is way out of proportion to the hysterical reaction (ala the hysterical nature of your post). "Endangering fellow citizens"- do you know how you avoid that? Look yourself in the house for ever- cut off all utilities as they're a fire risk that would "endanger fellow citizens".

There are more than health risks associated with the virus. There are also economic risks. The selfish and the arrogant who ignore public health advice increase the probability of harsher restrictions being required in the future. No amount of sitting at home or avoiding contact with others can insulate you from the economic damage caused by entitled fcukwits.

John_Rambo

thebaz wrote: »

The poster country for the lockdown strategy , facing its biggest recession in decades :-
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54186359

This is a virus we have to learn to live with it , it is impossible to stop, bar a 3 month Wuhan style lockdown, that will only return once we open up again, so much more pain than just Covid , and as poster above says , causing divisions in society between extremists on both sides.
Said it loads, but why is no one in authority promoting the benefits of Vitamin D that seams to help avoid the severity of Covid by some ?

Because people in authority seem to be assuming everyone is intelligent and has a high IQ. Added to that... the less informed people are more interested in finger pointing, name calling, labeling locations as "the diseased", causing divisiveness & hostility instead of looking after their physical and mental health.

Assetbacked

stockshares wrote: »

Yeh but he was then going for lunch:)

Maybe I was planning on stabbing the Happy Pear twins so perhaps the hysterical comparison was warranted?

Tenzor07

John_Rambo wrote: »

Because people in authority seem to be assuming everyone is intelligent and has a high IQ. Added to that... the less informed people are more interested in finger pointing, name calling, labeling locations as "the diseased", causing divisiveness & hostility instead of looking after their physical and mental health.

People assume that those in authority are intelligent with a high IQ, however with college drop out and 18-Previous Versions Harris, and Stephen "Trampoline" Donnelly in charge then it's no wonder people are confused, divided, angry and fed-up with level 2, level 2.5, level 3.5 and the closure of Ireland's only real city again after being closed for 6 months of the year already.. and it's only September!

JDD

For those (and there's a good few of you) calling for a Dublin lockdown because of bigoted and childish begrudger sports reasons remember that economic activity in the Greater Dublin Area accounts for over 50% of Ireland’s GDP, Dublin represents 40.1% (€109,610m) of the State’s total GVA. The Greater Dublin Area generates 58% of Ireland’s personal income tax revenue, while Dublin alone generates 51%.
The Greater Dublin Area generates 67% of Ireland’s corporate tax revenue, while Dublin alone generates 63%. Dublin has 31.7% of the country’s working population and 62% of those employed in Ireland’s financial, ICT, communication and professional services sectors are located in the Greater Dublin Area.

Dublin is home to the top 5 global software companies, 9 of the world’s top 10 pharmaceutical companies, half of the world’s top 50 banks, 250 global financial institutions, 12 of the world’s top 20 insurance companies, 18 of the world’s top 25 med tech companies and the top 4 global aviation leasers.

Look, I'm not disagreeing that full Aprilesque lockdown in Dublin wouldn't have more economic ramifications than other counties, but the way you've put that seems to indicate that going from a Level 2 to a Level 3 in Dublin will be catastrophic for all of those industries.

GDP is not a good indication of economic activity in Ireland.

Most of the firms that you have mentioned above have transitioned to having their staff work full time from home. That would remain the same whether we were at Level 2 or Level 3. Profits at those firms are going to be hit by a downturn in economic activity, but not necessarily stemming from highering of restrictions in Dublin - more from an overall pessimism on future global economic activity. So corporation tax will be hit either way. Income tax again is going to take a hit - but more from those big firms imposing pay cuts in response to the perceived reduction in income that's going to happen, not because they have laid off people. And again, that would have happened either way.

What will be hit is services that rely on office workers being in the office. Had infections stayed stable in Dublin, there would have been more people heading back in, even part time, to offices by now, propping up the pubs and sandwich shops and dry cleaners. But I don't think a drop in that spending is going to tip the country over the economic precipice - given we have spent 9bn on healthcare already this year. Letting the pandemic get out of control, especially in an urban centre, will lead to a catastrophic plummet in consumer confidence which really will tip us over the edge. Moving Dublin up to Level 3 is absolutely the right thing to do. And this is coming from a Dub.

Sigh. I was having a chat with a friend yesterday and we were saying that things feel worse now than they did in March and April. There also doesn't seem to be the same hopefulness in people. I think it's because back then we were at the beginning and thought the strict measures would go a long way and we'd get out of this. Now it's dawning that the only way out is a vaccine and sure who knows when that will happen.

I'm heading to Cork on Saturday to see my close friend. We haven't met since last October. My close contacts are small, no parties in my house, no gatherings big or small. So off I go.

I wonder what the story will be with hairdressers?

Claw Hammer

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder what the story will be with hairdressers?

I say they know as much about covid 19 as the taxi drivers!

alentejo

If a level 4 lockdown happens in Dublin, i suspect a good number of cafes, restaurants & bars which are just about hanging on will close and never reopen. That is very sad and must be reflected in any decision being made by government.

We are told that the primary source of infection is in the home!

Tenzor07

alentejo wrote: »

If a level 4 lockdown happens in Dublin, i suspect a good number of cafes, restaurants & bars which are just about hanging on will close and never reopen. That is very sad and must be reflected in any decision being made by government.We are told that the primary source of infection is in the home!

Yeap, close the places where people will socialise and watch it lead to more home gatherings.. People in Dublin then heading out to Wicklow parks and forestry areas at weekends in their droves...
Push people out of one thing and watch the other things fill up...