All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

Alf Veedersane

NaFirinne wrote: »

Looks like even those not vaccinated will be getting some of it's side effects according to this report -

Pfizer admits in its own mRNA document that NON-vaccinated can be EXPOSED to the vaccine’s spike proteins by INHALATION or SKIN CONTACT

https://blazingpress.com/pfizer-admits-in-its-own-mrna-document-that-non-jabbed-can-be-exposed-to-the-jabs-spike-proteins-by-inhalation-or-skin-contact/

Jesus.

No it doesn't.

They are either wilfully misinterpreting what is said or they are just really stupid but it says nothing of the sort that they claim.

King Mob

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Jesus.

No it doesn't.

They are either wilfully misinterpreting what is said or they are just really stupid but it says nothing of the sort that they claim.

Most likely, "Blazingpress" doesn't give a **** what the actual source says. They just need to link it cause they know the people who swallow their propaganda aren't actually going to check.

Alf Veedersane

King Mob wrote: »

Most likely, "Blazingpress" doesn't give a **** what the actual source says. They just need to link it cause they know the people who swallow their propaganda aren't actually going to check.

The irony being that people that perpetuate this nonsense will also tell you to go do your own research or call other people sheep yet they haven't don't their own research and blindly follow what someone else told them.

It's not even research to debunk this nonsense. Quick check outside of page 67 will clarify.

shtpEdthePlum

If 3 fully vaccinated households can meet, why can't 10??? Why can't there be a bloody concert?

Edit: probably because of the phenomenon with the spike protein above, they don't want us rubbing it or breathing it on a band

Alf Veedersane

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

If 3 fully vaccinated households can meet, why can't 10??? Why can't there be a bloody concert?

Edit: probably because of the phenomenon with the spike protein above, they don't want us rubbing it or breathing it on a band

Possibly because they can still transmit and while they shouldn't ultimately get COVID-19, they can still transmit the virus to unvaccinated people outside of that. But as more people are vaccinated, that will be relaxed as it has been already.

But it's nothing to do with the fictional phenomenon in that nonsense link above.

King Mob

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

If 3 fully vaccinated households can meet, why can't 10??? Why can't there be a bloody concert?

Edit: probably because of the phenomenon with the spike protein above, they don't want us rubbing it or breathing it on a band

But it's not that, because there is no "the phenomenon with the spike protein".

This appears to be the invention of a conspiracy theory website.

PintOfView

NaFirinne wrote: »

Looks like even those not vaccinated will be getting some of it's side effects according to this report -

Pfizer admits in its own mRNA document that NON-vaccinated can be EXPOSED to the vaccine’s spike proteins by INHALATION or SKIN CONTACT

https://blazingpress.com/pfizer-admits-in-its-own-mrna-document-that-non-jabbed-can-be-exposed-to-the-jabs-spike-proteins-by-inhalation-or-skin-contact/

It sounds from other posters that what you said is actually wrong.

However isn't it funny the way you think that the vaccine spike protein can be passed to someone else by inhalation,
whereas you try every mental trick in the book to not admit the actual virus can be passed through inhalation
(it's just some magical 'seasonal' thing, or just the flu, etc)

PintOfView

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

If 3 fully vaccinated households can meet, why can't 10??? Why can't there be a bloody concert?

Edit: probably because of the phenomenon with the spike protein above, they don't want us rubbing it or breathing it on a band

Are you seriously telling me you don't see why if 3 households can meet, then why can't 10, or why can't there be a concert?

You need to be thankful that there are people in the world, and in Ireland,
who understand some basic science, and risk management, and, no offence,
but who protect you from yourself, and from other people who are unable to understand!

And, re the spike protein, here is the first sentence from the linked page
"It’s not a vaccine or anything even remotely related to vaccines.
It’s a HUMANICIDE.
And it sheds and is highly transmissible by Pfizer’s own gleeful admission"

Are you also seriously telling me you take that sort of stuff as credible?

PintOfView

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Why weren't there AIDS passports? TB passports? Flu passports? Common Cold passports?

What do you think?
Are all those example diseases
a) as transmissible to large numbers of people as Covid? and
b) pose the same risk of serious illness, and death, as Covid?

ShatterAlan wrote: »

On the news all you see is DEATH and people in India stealing oxygen tanks. Where the hell are these oxygen tanks coming from?

One simple question for YOU. Do you have any clue where to get an oxygen tank and if you do tell me how long its contents last. I understand that scuba diver tanks last about a half hour (open to correction) so how long do these torpedo-sized O2 tanks in India last?

Just asking.

I don't get why you're asking where oxygen tanks come from?
Are you suggesting the news from India is all fake?

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Apparently the Venezuelans had to eat flamingoes to stay alive. How long does 50,000 flamingoes feed a country of millions? What are they eating now that all the flamingoes have been plucked and roasted? Moved on to parrots or birds of paradise maybe?

Where is this random topic coming from, and how has this anything to do with the thread?

Fighting Tao

NaFirinne wrote: »

Looks like even those not vaccinated will be getting some of it's side effects according to this report -

Pfizer admits in its own mRNA document that NON-vaccinated can be EXPOSED to the vaccine’s spike proteins by INHALATION or SKIN CONTACT

https://blazingpress.com/pfizer-admits-in-its-own-mrna-document-that-non-jabbed-can-be-exposed-to-the-jabs-spike-proteins-by-inhalation-or-skin-contact/

Humanicide? No it's not the destruction of the human race and that is clear. Therefore, I can only assume that Blazingpress are fans of Death Angel's, but I can't fathom what their Humanicide album has got to do with this whole thing.

seamus

ShatterAlan wrote: »

One simple question for YOU. Do you have any clue where to get an oxygen tank

https://www.boconline.ie/shop/en/ireland/industrial-oxygen-cylinder

I understand that scuba diver tanks last about a half hour (open to correction) so how long do these torpedo-sized O2 tanks in India last?

Scuba tanks are not pure oxygen. They're just normal air (~20% oxygen) compressed to give a small reservoir of breathable air.

Breathing pure oxygen is not good for you, hence why scuba tanks use normal air.

Oxygen tanks for use by patients, have the benefit of not being underwater. So the mechanism that delivers the oxygen to the patient actually delivers an intermix of normal air with a variable amount of oxygen. In the tank is pure oxygen, the air it's mixed with comes from the environment.

Thus a scuba tank filled with compressed oxygen and used in oxygen therapy would last many hours. The "Torpedo-sized" ones would do a single patient for days, perhaps even weeks.

The production of oxygen tanks on a large scale is not that trifling. We've gotten pretty good at extracting oxygen from the air and filtering out the nitrogen, so much so that we have portable oxygen concentrators that can deliver a pretty pure oxygen flow without the need for huge cylinders.

Dohnjoe

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Is it ok then to refuse a vaccine? Does one still have a choice? Or do you subscribe to the school of thought that people should not be allowed a choice?

Sure, people can refuse it.

The problem is that those who are refusing it are doing so based on medical disinformation and scare-mongering. Propagated by the type of people who come on forums like this to spread fear and lies.

astrofool

seamus wrote: »

The production of oxygen tanks on a large scale is not that trifling. We've gotten pretty good at extracting oxygen from the air and filtering out the nitrogen, so much so that we have portable oxygen concentrators that can deliver a pretty pure oxygen flow without the need for huge cylinders.

And just to shatter ShatterAlan's brain, we even have one of these devices producing oxygen on Mars (we should really start shipping it back to India):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Oxygen_ISRU_Experiment

Timberrrrrrrr

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

If 3 fully vaccinated households can meet, why can't 10??? Why can't there be a bloody concert?

Edit: probably because of the phenomenon with the spike protein above, they don't want us rubbing it or breathing it on a band

There are 3000 people going to a nightclub in liverpool today, you have to have a negative lateral test in the last twenty four hours, there will be no masks and no social distancing requirements.

EyesClosed

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

There are 3000 people going to a nightclub in liverpool today, you have to have a negative lateral test in the last twenty four hours, there will be no masks and no social distancing requirements.

All measures are permanent though??

Timberrrrrrrr

EyesClosed wrote: »

All measures are permanent though??

Diety pints and dirty dancing seems to be allowed though :pac:

Dohnjoe

EyesClosed wrote: »

All measures are permanent though??

All measures are permanent
Some measures are permanent
Certain measures are for the foreseeable future
Someone will be wearing a mask at some point in the future, tyranny!!

EyesClosed

Dohnjoe wrote: »

All measures are permanent
Some measures are permanent
Certain measures are for the foreseeable future
Someone will be wearing a mask at some point in the future, tyranny!!

That's basically this whole thread covered perfectly

Guy:Incognito

ShatterAlan wrote: »

One simple question for YOU. Do you have any clue where to get an oxygen tank and if you do tell me how long its contents last. I understand that scuba diver tanks last about a half hour (open to correction) so how long do these torpedo-sized O2 tanks in India last?

?

Do YOU know the difference between being underwater and drawing every bit of oxygen you need for every breath from a tank and how much you need when you're on oxygen from a tank in a hospital environment?

Guy:Incognito

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Why weren't there AIDS passports? TB passports? Flu passports? Common Cold passports?

Science and medicine is not the same for every illness and disease as well as society learning more as years pass? Think you might be on to something there.........

You can't catch aids from being in a room with someone btw

Dr. Bre

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

There are 3000 people going to a nightclub in liverpool today, you have to have a negative lateral test in the last twenty four hours, there will be no masks and no social distancing requirements.

You never know what you could catch in that nightclub in Liverpool!

johnmck

When can we take the masks off ?

Fighting Tao

johnmck wrote: »

When can we take the masks off ?

Do you wear one 24/7? If so you really don’t need to. If you don’t then you already take it off.

johnmck

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Do you wear one 24/7? If so you really don’t need to. If you don’t then you already take it off.

I wear one when I'm in my car alone , just in case

Dohnjoe

johnmck wrote: »

I wear one when I'm in my car alone , just in case

It's alright, we all forget to take it off from time to time

Covid marshals are to be recruited in the UK to work until 2022, with a possible extension until 2023: https://www.itv.com/news/london/2021-04-28/councils-recruiting-covid-marshals-until-2022-despite-plans-to-end-restrictions

Masks and social distancing likely to remain beyond the 21st of June: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-raab-foreign-secretary-sophy-ridge-b932854.html

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Covid marshals are to be recruited in the UK to work until 2022, with a possible extension until 2023: https://www.itv.com/news/london/2021-04-28/councils-recruiting-covid-marshals-until-2022-despite-plans-to-end-restrictions

Masks and social distancing likely to remain beyond the 21st of June: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-raab-foreign-secretary-sophy-ridge-b932854.html

And your point is?

TrangiaCoffee

EyesClosed wrote: »

But restrictions are lifting as the vaccine is proving to work?

How does that show all covid measures will be permanent forever?

It's only a short summer break. A treat for the sheep to provide incentive for vaccine uptake.

Timberrrrrrrr

TrangiaCoffee wrote: »

It's only a short summer break. A treat for the sheep to provide incentive for vaccine uptake.

The more measures are lifted the more of the above shìte we will see posted.

Meanwhile England lifts restrictions on mourners attending funerals from May 17th.


Government announces change in plan to allow larger funerals

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/QS2ETK

PintOfView

johnmck wrote: »

I wear one when I'm in my car alone , just in case

No sure if you're serious or not!
Wearing a mask in your car alone is no benefit, and completely unnecessary.

Basic masks do not seem to offer much, or possibly any, protection to the wearer.
Results of studies on the benefits of masks to the wearer are sometimes quoted by people who say masks don't work!

However evidence does suggest widespread use of basic masks helps reduce community transmission,
with the masks helping to obstruct the emission of virus laden particles by people who already have Covid.
To be effective this requires everyone to wear masks in close proximity to others.
see -> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32673300/

Of course, once the majority are vaccinated masks should become an unnecessary measure
(apart from it being socially responsible to wear a mask if you have a respiratory infection yourself)