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All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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    #1082
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    GT89 wrote: »
    Except hospitals are not inundated

    Yes they are. National health services in countries have reached critical levels. This is why we have lockdowns.

    It's astonishing that we still have individuals on this forum repeating the same low-effort falsehoods over and over.
    The CDC have said the death rate of covid is under 1% so it couldn't be that serious.

    It is serious. Likewise, you claimed that Covid was as "dangerous" as the flu, which is false.

    Is there a conspiracy going on here? or are you just here to regurgitate more of these incredulous denialist claims?


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    #1083
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Except hospitals are not inundated and healthcare workers were busy making tiktoks when they were supposed to be "overwhelmed". The CDC have said the death rate of covid is under 1% so it couldn't be that serious. Also if people are so likely to need to go to icu why aren't third world countries with underdeveloped healthcare systems worst hit.



    And you believe the CCP? I could believe New Zealand as it's a small country isolated from the rest of the world with a low population density but not China. I could think of a number of possible theories as to why this is happening the Chinese being one of them they are a nation that simply cannot be trusted.

    There was a nurse on the news just talking about how the hospital she works in is close to turning people away. Are you saying she is lying? She is a nurse, in the hospital, an actual eyewitness, you are an anonymous poster on the internet, what makes you right and her wrong?


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    #1084
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    There was a nurse on the news just talking about how the hospital she works in is close to turning people away. Are you saying she is lying? She is a nurse, in the hospital, an actual eyewitness, you are an anonymous poster on the internet, what makes you right and her wrong?

    Happens every winter during flu season


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    #1085
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Happens every winter during flu season

    So you agree your position of "hospitals are not inundated" is wrong?


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    #1086
    NaFirinne
    Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭NaFirinne


    GT89 wrote: »
    Happens every winter during flu season




    Before Covid19 - how many times have we heard not enough beds for patients...patients on trolleys..etc.

    Is this not just the same thing happening except with covid they have an excuse to turn people away now.


    It appears to me that the only solution to covid is to live in a China like country with China like restrictions on people.


    Is this really what people want? Will people accept these control measures on a pernament basis?


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    #1087
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    NaFirinne wrote: »
    Before Covid19 - how many times have we heard not enough beds for patients...patients on trolleys..etc.

    Is this not just the same thing happening except with covid they have an excuse to turn people away now.

    No. Regular debates over hospital capacity are not the same as the national system being flooded with patients during a pandemic.
    It appears to me that the only solution to covid is to live in a China like country with China like restrictions on people.

    Dictatorships and centralised powers with lower freedoms/human rights like China can enact much harsher methods to control events like pandemics.
    Will people accept these control measures on a pernament basis?

    The current measures in normal countries are to deal with the pandemic


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    #1088
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    NaFirinne wrote: »
    Before Covid19 - how many times have we heard not enough beds for patients...patients on trolleys..etc.

    Is this not just the same thing happening except with covid they have an excuse to turn people away now.


    It appears to me that the only solution to covid is to live in a China like country with China like restrictions on people.


    Is this really what people want? Will people accept these control measures on a pernament basis?

    It's not the same thing. There are 1k hospital staff out sick due to covid. That's why it's especially dangerous, it can shut medical facilities down. Not enough staff to treat people means more people die.


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    #1089
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    It's not the same thing. There are 1k hospital staff out sick due to covid. That's why it's especially dangerous, it can shut medical facilities down. Not enough staff to treat people means more people die.

    Yeah and many are probably out of work self isolating not actually sick.


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    #1090
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GT89 wrote: »
    Yeah and many are probably out of work self isolating not actually sick.

    No, they get tested and back to work asap due to staffing shortages. Infectious diseases are a huge deal for hospitals, as I have said before I had an outpatients appointment cancelled in Galway a couple years back due to an outbreak of vomiting bug in the hospital. Something like covid can cause serious staffing issues and that's the last thing you need.


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    #1091
    sabat
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    It's not the same thing. There are 1k hospital staff out sick due to covid. That's why it's especially dangerous, it can shut medical facilities down. Not enough staff to treat people means more people die.

    Are they actually sick or are they a positive case?


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    #1092
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    sabat wrote: »
    Are they actually sick or are they a positive case?

    Like it matters? Hospital staff deal with sick people, giving those already sick a dose of covid wouldn't be clever now would it.


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    #1093
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    No. Regular debates over hospital capacity are not the same as the national system being flooded with patients during a pandemic.

    Remember were are ZERO people in hospital with flu on the 11th December 2020 same date in 2019 there were 143 people in hospital with flu. January is usually peak flu season not hard to work that one out really.


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    #1094
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GT89 wrote: »
    Remember were are ZERO people in hospital with flu on the 11th December 2020 same date in 2019 there were 143 people in hospital with flu. January is usually peak flu season.

    So what?


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    #1095
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    So what?

    There are no flu cases in hospitals but loads of covid cases. Where has the flu gone has covid taken over?


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    #1096
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GT89 wrote: »
    There are no flu cases in hospitals but loads of covid cases. Where has the flu gone has covid taken over?

    It's not as contagious as covid and people are wearing masks and social distancing and the gov gave out a rake of vaccinations for it. What else do you think it could be.


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    #1097
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    It's not as contagious as covid and people are wearing masks and social distancing and the gov gave out a rake of vaccinations for it. What else do you think it could be.

    If that's the case then there would still be small numbers of flu cases not zero. If masks and social distnacing work to keep flu cases to zero then why are there not zero covid cases too?


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    #1098
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GT89 wrote: »
    If that's the case then there would still be small numbers of flu cases not zero. If masks and social distnacing work to keep flu cases to zero then why are there not zero covid cases too?

    Covid is more infectious and we have only just developed a vaccine for it. It's not rocket science lad.

    In addition:

    The health service noted that the low figures are due to the disruption that the Covid-19 pandemic has caused to influenza networks across the globe.


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    #1099
    NaFirinne
    Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭NaFirinne


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    It's not as contagious as covid and people are wearing masks and social distancing and the gov gave out a rake of vaccinations for it. What else do you think it could be.




    Isn't there a 5g conspiracy theory running around somewhere?


    I don't know what covid is - Might be worth looking into if the Covid Symtoms are similar too any type of radiation based side effects rather then the flu.


    is the covid test an actually checking for an actual virus or just a genetic code that many people would have.


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    #1100
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    GT89 wrote: »
    If that's the case then there would still be small numbers of flu cases not zero. If masks and social distnacing work to keep flu cases to zero then why are there not zero covid cases too?

    Flu cases are reduced this year due to the measures used to tackle another infectious illness.

    Measures (like masks, etc) reduce the spread of the virus, they don't stop it completely. Covid is new and highly contagious, whereas flu has been around for a long time, many have built up resistance/been vaccinated.

    Again, do you have any conspiracy?


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    #1101
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    153 on trollies on 3/1/21 620 on trollies 3/1/20
    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch


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    #1102
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    NaFirinne wrote: »
    Isn't there a 5g conspiracy theory running around somewhere?

    Yes. There's also a theory that the world is flat. Both are equally strong.


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    #1103
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GT89 wrote: »
    153 on trollies on 3/1/21 620 on trollies 3/1/20
    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

    Great to see the measures we are taking are helping to relieve the hospital system.


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    #1104
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    GT89 wrote: »
    153 on trollies on 3/1/21 620 on trollies 3/1/20
    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

    It's like you think this is all some big "trick" and you're trying to catch it out..


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    #1105
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's like you think this is all some big "trick" and you're trying to catch it out..

    Its a massive fraud, but people on the interwebs are able to crack it using the exact information that the government (who are in on said fraud) have provided to expose it.


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    #1106
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Great to see the measures we are taking are helping to relieve the hospital system.

    Thought hsopitals were supposed to be overwhelmed? So lockdown, social distancing and masks every year then is it?


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    #1107
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's like you think this is all some big "trick" and you're trying to catch it out..

    I believe it is exaggerated to suit certain businesses and individuals whilst the rest suffer


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    #1108
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    GT89 wrote: »
    I believe it is exaggerated to suit certain businesses and individuals whilst the rest suffer




    Do you think scenes like these back in April were staged?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-bodies.html

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fema-is-sending-85-refrigerated-trucks-to-new-york-city-to-serve-as-temporary-morgues-2020-04-01


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    #1109
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yes. There's also a theory that the world is flat. Both are equally strong.

    Don't forget the competing theories that covid is designed to reduce population and is also a hoax.


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    #1110
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    john4321 wrote: »
    Do you think scenes like these back in April were staged?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-bodies.html

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fema-is-sending-85-refrigerated-trucks-to-new-york-city-to-serve-as-temporary-morgues-2020-04-01

    Yes


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    #1111
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Yes

    To what end?

    Why has it been "exaggerated to suit certain businesses and individuals"?

    Who are they and what do they gain?


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