Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

lawred2

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I was at a concert in croke park a good few years ago, held on for a few minutes to let the crowd disperse all around us was covered in needles.
I'm happy to see young folk taking laughing gas rather than heroin. Yea I know it's against public health advice before you go off on one.

That didn't happen anyway

caveat emptor

Deleted User wrote: »

Worth reading the article not the headline:

Indeed.....

An analysis by the International Air Transport Association published in August identified four cases of possible transmission on aircraft. Among them was a March 2 flight from Britain to Vietnam on which one symptomatic passenger is likely to have transmitted the virus to 15 other people, according to a study published Friday in the CDC journal. Most of them were sitting close to the symptomatic passenger in business class, but people elsewhere on the plane also tested positive.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1307764551832793093?s=20

caveat emptor

CDC have been busy.....
Finally.


https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1307922276986257410?s=21

Funsterdelux

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC have been busy.....
Finally.


https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1307922276986257410?s=21

CDC How it spreads

Through respiratory droplets or small particles, such as those in aerosols, produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, sings, talks, or breathes.
These particles can be inhaled into the nose, mouth, airways, and lungs and cause infection. This is thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

drunkmonkey

lawred2 wrote: »

That didn't happen anyway

When we look back in another 15yrs at the Guards breaking up a rave in the first 48hrs of Lockdown II and you tell people the ground was littered with laughing gas i'm sure a few won't believe it either.

Drumpot

mandrake04 wrote: »

Surely this is an impossibility the HEPA filters is like Kryptonite to the virus, boom!!! it sucks it right out of your filthy infected body.

I have a client who sometimes flies commercial planes in his spare time. He actually thinks the COVID stuff was being blown out of proportion when I was last talking to him in the summer (before it kicked off where he lives in USA). But he’s always maintained the filtration system on planes isn’t worth crap against this virus.

It’s like the schools, only worse as far as I’m concerned. The problem with this sort of thing for me is that there’s been plenty of time to prove one way or another how safe planes are but there’s been very little desire to do so. That says to me they don’t want to know or they know and don’t want the results to get out. There are elements like this and schools etc that make trusting authorities that bit harder. I’d prefer honesty and trusting people to make their own decisions.

Happydays2020

Funsterdelux wrote: »

CDC How it spreads

Is this new?

froog

Nice bit of comic relief with the U2 junky stories.

Boggles

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When we look back in another 15yrs at the Guards breaking up a rave in the first 48hrs of Lockdown II and you tell people the ground was littered with laughing gas i'm sure a few won't believe it either.

Yeah, but you will be telling people it was crack cocaine and a Daniel O'Donnell concert.

stockshares

Nephet considering using Japan's method of contact tracing(retrospective tracing to source).

Nephet have been using prospective tracing which is tracing who is likely to become infected up to now.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/irish-officials-consider-tracing-method-that-helped-japan-avoid-lockdowns-39547376.html

Roger_007

Luke O’Neill on Pat Kenny’s show. He is now saying that surfaces are not that important in spreading the virus and the hand washing is not such a big deal.
This the same guy who told us not too long ago that wearing masks was pretty much useless.

screamer

Roger_007 wrote: »

Luke O’Neill on Pat Kenny’s show. He is now saying that surfaces are not that important in spreading the virus and the hand washing is not such a big deal.
This the same guy who told us not too long ago that wearing masks was pretty much useless.

Hmm...and where do we pickup the virus on our hands from? Yep surfaces. Course we can’t disinfect everything we touch out and about so hams washing and sanitising is important, but make no mistake Covid can linger on some of the most inhospitable surfaces for a long time, and even longer as the temperatures drop....
Anyways, I’m sure he’s worried, he just sold some company he co founded for 380million quid. That some spread there.

ChikiChiki

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Phoenix Park is empty of cars this morning.

Only those told to be at work are going.

Most People and organization's will listen to and adhere to the advice.

That is why the message has to be crystal clear and easy to comprehend which it has not been recently.

Non solum non ambulabit

GooglePlus wrote: »

D car registration is fairly common outside of Dublin.

A lot of company cars are D regs. Also, commuters from outside Dublin often buy second hand cars in garages around Dublin. 1 in 4 cars in Ireland is a D reg.

Happydays2020

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

A lot of company cars are D regs. Also, commuters from outside Dublin often buy second hand cars in garages around Dublin.

And many Dubs live in Kildare, Meath. Wicklow, and Louth. And they may or may not have D reg cars.

drunkmonkey

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

A lot of company cars are D regs. Also, commuters from outside Dublin often buy second hand cars in garages around Dublin.

The kids in the playground were wearing Leinster facemasks, considering the accents, cars and masks I'm pretty sure they were dubs in the wild.

Funsterdelux

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Is this new?

New to the Irish gov

Curious_Case

GooglePlus wrote: »

D car registration is fairly common outside of Dublin.

Being from down the country, I always like to drive a D reg.
That way, if I'm in a wrong lane or make an illegal turn in Dublin, other drivers think "ah good man, couldn't be bothered obeying the road signage" rather than "what a moron, can't even read a road sign".

drunkmonkey

screamer wrote: »

Hmm...and where do we pickup the virus on our hands from? Yep surfaces. Course we can’t disinfect everything we touch out and about so hams washing and sanitising is important, but make no mistake Covid can linger on some of the most inhospitable surfaces for a long time, and even longer as the temperatures drop....
Anyways, I’m sure he’s worried, he just sold some company he co founded for 380million quid. That some spread there.

We should minimize the surfaces we touch with a viral load then instead we've mandated to increase them by millions a day.
Seems to be working well. Thanks Luke.

JDD

screamer wrote: »

Hmm...and where do we pickup the virus on our hands from? Yep surfaces. Course we can’t disinfect everything we touch out and about so hams washing and sanitising is important, but make no mistake Covid can linger on some of the most inhospitable surfaces for a long time, and even longer as the temperatures drop....
Anyways, I’m sure he’s worried, he just sold some company he co founded for 380million quid. That some spread there.

It seems to me that most people who might develop symptoms, like coughing, tend to not be out and about. Yes, the virus can just be expelled by breathing, but I can't imagine it gets too far to say, land on a bottle of milk which you will then pick up and then stick your fingers in your mouth. I mean, of course its possible, but I'd say very very little of the infections are passed on that way.

My suspicion has always been just people chatting. And Irish people love a good chat. I do think that masks prevent the virus coming out in big droplets, but most of them fall to the ground pretty quickly, and you are unlikely to inhale them if you are a few steps back from the person. I don't think that one-ply cloth masks (which 90% of people wear) prevent you from breathing out the aerosol droplets - they may just redirect the droplets upwards or sideways instead of straight at the person you are talking to, which I suppose is a help. Cloth masks certainly don't prevent you from breathing in the aerosol droplets.

So if you stop to chat to someone, especially indoors, even if you are both wearing masks, I think there's a good chance the virus could be passed on. But really, where it is probably passed on from household to household is in restaurants/cafes/pubs/houses, where customers/visitors don't wear masks. A good hour of chats, probably half a metre apart in an indoor setting...sure it'd be a miracle if you didn't catch it.

As much as it sucks, it's a good idea that indoor dining in Dublin is closed for three weeks. I do think that it'll have a good impact on infections. Problem is of course once it's opened again in three weeks infections will go back up.

C'mon Pfizer...the sooner the better...

Funsterdelux

Roger_007 wrote: »

Luke O’Neill on Pat Kenny’s show. He is now saying that surfaces are not that important in spreading the virus and the hand washing is not such a big deal.
This the same guy who told us not too long ago that wearing masks was pretty much useless.

He'll be telling us to drink our own wee next.

jojofizzio

Roger_007 wrote: »

Luke O’Neill on Pat Kenny’s show. He is now saying that surfaces are not that important in spreading the virus and the hand washing is not such a big deal.
This the same guy who told us not too long ago that wearing masks was pretty much useless.

That guy literally changes his tune with the weather:rolleyes:

AdamD

My attempt at getting the flu vaccine:

Thank you for your answers.

Your answers tell us that you are not in one of the groups recommended by the HSE to get a flu vaccination this season. As there is limited flu vaccine stock for people not in an at-risk or recommended group unfortunately the service is now restricted to those with a pre-paid voucher.

Please contact your local Boots pharmacy to speak to a pharmacist who will discuss your eligibility to continue with the service.

Surely having a plentiful supply of this should be a high priority...given the billions we're already spending on this health crisis..

Happydays2020

jojofizzio wrote: »

That guy literally changes his tune with the weather:rolleyes:

Maybe there should be a new station - Covid FM - where all these experts can come together and theorise together.

Hector Savage

https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1307338745864237058?s=20

Turns out he made it up ...

https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1307708677806317568?s=20

This is a UN guy .... and sadly a lot of people are lapping it up and don't realise it's made up.

Imagine the type of person that would pretend their daughter died , to fearmonger.

sick sick sick

DangerScouse

Roger_007 wrote: »

Luke O’Neill on Pat Kenny’s show. He is now saying that surfaces are not that important in spreading the virus and the hand washing is not such a big deal.
This the same guy who told us not too long ago that wearing masks was pretty much useless.

That guy is off his rocker. I remember him laughing and joking on the late late show months ago when this all kicked off telling everyone it's nothing to be worried about.

Hurrache

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Me neither but that's what was on the ground close to where we all were. I remember it clearly, it was one of those jesus christ moments. I didn't see anyone shooting up but must have been a gang of them.

It was better when you kept your nonsense to the restrictions thread, we knew avoiding that avoided bull****.

Non solum non ambulabit

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1307338745864237058?s=20

Turns out he made it up ...

https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1307708677806317568?s=20

This is a UN guy .... and sadly a lot of people are lapping it up and don't realise it's made up.

Imagine the type of person that would pretend their daughter died , to fearmonger.

sick sick sick

That is one perverted man. Fear is already is at a level that is causing damage without this nonsense on top of it.

JDD

AdamD wrote: »

My attempt at getting the flu vaccine:



Surely having a plentiful supply of this should be a high priority...given the billions we're already spending on this health crisis..

I thought everyone could get the flu vaccine if they wanted it. Is this not the case?

drunkmonkey

DangerScouse wrote: »

That guy is off his rocker. I remember him laughing and joking on the late late show months ago when this all kicked off telling everyone it's nothing to be worried about.

It's hard to take him seriously, seems to just jump on the most popular bandwagon of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_P2RmrA6U

This is it

DangerScouse wrote: »

That guy is off his rocker. I remember him laughing and joking on the late late show months ago when this all kicked off telling everyone it's nothing to be worried about.

Same on Newstalk around April/May. No idea why he's given a platform to spout such shyte.

drunkmonkey

Hurrache wrote: »

It was better when you kept your nonsense to the restrictions thread, we knew avoiding that avoided bull****.

I think we've moved on from U2, you shouldn't get stuck in a moment.

Happydays2020

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1307338745864237058?s=20

Turns out he made it up ...

https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1307708677806317568?s=20

This is a UN guy .... and sadly a lot of people are lapping it up and don't realise it's made up.

Imagine the type of person that would pretend their daughter died , to fearmonger.

sick sick sick

He is not UN staff - he is the representative of an NGO to the UN.

Happydays2020

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I think we've moved on from U2, you shouldn't get stuck in a moment.

I suggest you get out today - It’s a Beautiful Day

mandrake04

Drumpot wrote: »

I have a client who sometimes flies commercial planes in his spare time. He actually thinks the COVID stuff was being blown out of proportion when I was last talking to him in the summer (before it kicked off where he lives in USA). But he’s always maintained the filtration system on planes isn’t worth crap against this virus.

It’s like the schools, only worse as far as I’m concerned. The problem with this sort of thing for me is that there’s been plenty of time to prove one way or another how safe planes are but there’s been very little desire to do so. That says to me they don’t want to know or they know and don’t want the results to get out. There are elements like this and schools etc that make trusting authorities that bit harder. I’d prefer honesty and trusting people to make their own decisions.

I have said this many times.

HEPA filters are used in Laboratory safety cabinets and in Molecular Analysers that require positive pressure to prevent contamination, they are good at cleaning particles out of the air.

But the air that comes out of the overhead nozzle is like the perfectly clean water out of firemans hose spraying a dirty street....once it hits debris it will just pick it up and transports further down the street contaminating everything in its way.

There is a nozzle above every seat blowing air on heads picking up contamination a bit like mini cyclone inside a Dyson vacuum cleaner.

It’s common sense, only a gullible fool would fall for O’Leary’s marketing spin that HEPA filters are the worlds saviour from virus.

Hurrache

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I think we've moved on from U2, you shouldn't get stuck in a moment.

Hey guys, I was making nonsense up, got called and mocked on it, so lets move on with my U2 pun and pretend I never said it...

drunkmonkey

Hurrache wrote: »

Hey guys, I was making nonsense up, got called and mocked on it, so lets move on with my U2 pun and pretend I never said it...

Look what ever your into yourself, I was there and that's what I noticed when the crowd dispersed, I've no reason to make up something like that. If you could kindly move along now it's yesterdays news and your just trolling now.

Eod100

Some reports in UK media that Johnson will announce restrictions for UK tomorrow

DangerScouse

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's hard to take him seriously, seems to just jump on the most popular bandwagon of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_P2RmrA6U

That should have finished his career off but for some bizarre reason he's a regular in the media to this day.

crossman47

Wolf359f wrote: »

Can you explain how there were little to no cases in nursing homes for about 3 weeks after they finally banned visitors? How did it get in if there were no visitors?

Via staff - that's clear now.

Happydays2020

Eod100 wrote: »

Some reports in UK media that Johnson will announce restrictions for UK tomorrow

Interesting that restrictions go down well with his base - usually when those restrictions are elsewhere particularly disadvantaged areas.

Roger_007

Eod100 wrote: »

Some reports in UK media that Johnson will announce restrictions for UK tomorrow

That is the UK except Dominick Cummings.......I presume?

crossman47

normanoffside wrote: »

What about the residents that Holohan sent back to the homes Covid Positive (without test) from Hospital in order to clear beds for the younger population?

How on earth can you say Holohan sent them back. Hes the CMO - he doesn't run hospitals or nursing homes.

Hurrache

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Look what ever your into yourself, I was there and that's what I noticed when the crowd dispersed, I've no reason to make up something like that. If you could kindly move along now it's yesterdays news and your just trolling now.

LOL, I'm trolling by serving up your own words back to you? I'm happy to move on, you've proven yourself to be a liar on numerous occasions.

Away With The Fairies

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC have been busy.....
Finally.


https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1307922276986257410?s=21

How long will it take Ireland to make this news official so that we can make better plans like perhaps mandatory masks in all indoor public places. There's still factories operating without face masks and offices aren't included in the government's list of where to wear a mask.

drunkmonkey

Hurrache wrote: »

LOL, I'm trolling by serving up your own words back to you? I'm happy to move on, you've proven yourself to be a liar on numerous occasions.

Do it move on, I'm not lying stop trolling.

crossman47

The Tipp county final was a great game yesterday but the scenes afterwards make me worry we won't see much more games this year. I know a first county means so much but fellas hugging, back slapping, etc as if social distancing doesn't matter at a match can only lead to problems.

sideswipe

Just caught a couple of minutes of NewsTalk with Pat Kenny and Luck O'Neill chatting while I was in a shop this morning. O'Neill said that only 1 in 5 people who test positive are actually infectious! That's a pretty significant claim.

jusvi2001

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

And it only took 5865 deaths to get them there. They're also about five weeks behind the rest of Europe in reaching a first trough, so cases may well hit a surge yet.

Many of them died with Covid not from Covid. they had underlying conditions as well. Look at the death rate in ireland during flu season. lot of the elderly people with underlying conditions wont survive even with a chest infection. unfortunately there is no accurate data to show death rate from covid.

Measures should be taken according to scientific evidence and data. Politicians often take decisions to save their government from backlash.

Lockdown not only crashing economy but affecting people with health conditions other than covid waiting for diagnosis , procedures, etc. mental health, depression , domestic abuse and list goes on...

drunkmonkey

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How long will it take Ireland to make this news official so that we can make better plans like perhaps mandatory masks in all indoor public places. There's still factories operating without face masks and offices aren't included in the government's list of where to wear a mask.

Until when, a vaccine arrives, we need a certain amount of herd immunity even with a vaccine. Dragging this out for as long as possible doesn't seem like a correct strategy. There's certain people who need to protect themselves, that is on them. The rest of us should carry on as normal and get that immunity as quick as possible. We've made a mistake by not doing this while we had good weather.