Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Widdensushi

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Pennys Wilton, 16 staff test +

And no clusters in shops prior to masks being mandatory

arrianalexander

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Pennys Wilton, 16 staff test +

How do you know this , not doubting just curious

Were they part of the 36 yesterday or going to new cases

Fionn1952

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You can't really use percentages increases when numbers are so low, especially comparing 8 with 23.

.....that would be why I said, 'that being said, it's hard to apply much in the ways of sensible trend analysis with such small numbers in the first place'...

arrianalexander

It's says test+ which I assumed was tested positive

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1308045313308004352

Good news

ACitizenErased

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1308045313308004352

Good news

As the days pass it's becoming more and more likely October will be a good month for vaccine news

Hurrache

podgeandrodge wrote: »

"Jerick Martin, a healthcare worker who spent 68 days in ICU with #COVID19 " will be a speaker.


Because when you've lost the population by your strategy, only fear remains!

There's enough people on this forum alone who claim it's nothing to worry about until you're either old or have an underlying illness, they need a good slap about the face of the reality.

ACitizenErased

arrianalexander wrote: »

How do you know this , not doubting just curious

Were they part of the 36 yesterday or going to new cases

I'm after hearing from 2 HSE workers, and I assume it's included in yesterday's figures of 36 yes. Would make sense, large increases are usually attributed to clusters.
Also lines up with the school cases. Any workers there would have kids in that area, and the schools would report those cases.

Nermal

SeaBreezes wrote: »

I dunno.. aparently impossible to get tested and...

https://twitter.com/itosettiMD_MBA/status/1307252754134560768?s=19

I'll save you all the bother. https://novus.se/novus-coronastatus/

No science involved, just telephone surveys, self-reported symptoms, and people who 'think' they've had the virus.

Almost as good as that study TonyMaloney posted. Which turned out to have been sampled from a Facebook support group.

ixoy

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’m not a big fan of them “fear”-ing these conferences to be honest. They should be about media questions and nothing else.

I suspect though, if you're watching that report, you're preaching to the converted. The people you might want to reach aren't watching.

ACitizenErased

Hurrache wrote: »

There's enough people on this forum alone who claim it's nothing to worry about until you're either old or have an underlying illness, they need a good slap about the face of the reality.

I've an underlying illness and am very calm about the whole situation, to be honest

arrianalexander

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm after hearing from 2 HSE workers, and I assume it's included in yesterday's figures of 36 yes. Would make sense, large increases are usually attributed to clusters.
Also lines up with the school cases. Any workers there would have kids in that area, and the schools would report those cases.

Thanks

SortingYouOut

GooglePlus wrote: »

You can almost set your watch to it. Gets called out and shuts down the discussion.

One of the reasons I still visit this thread is to enjoy his spirals downward during an argument, I get a great laugh.

seamus

A lot of cases get transferred to hospitals in Dublin that have Covid wards set up. Portiuncla for example, has no cases at the moment. They're not going to admit any covid cases unless there are no other hospitals available to take it.

I'm not sure going on a county-by-county basis in terms of hospitals numbers is helpful.

normanoffside

podgeandrodge wrote: »

"Jerick Martin, a healthcare worker who spent 68 days in ICU with #COVID19 " will be a speaker.


Because when you've lost the population by your strategy, only fear remains!

Thankfully this has been cancelled along with the whole briefing

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308034031876009984

ACitizenErased

normanoffside wrote: »

Thankfully this has been cancelled along with the whole briefing

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308034031876009984

Amateur enough cancelling it 27 minutes later. The Department of Health's PR team is a joke.

drunkmonkey

fits wrote: »

You worry about your kids I'll worry about mine. He's worn it once - in a shop. Nothing inappropriate or dangerous about it.

We've all to worry about each other, remember. It's not about saving my life it's about saving yours.

podgeandrodge

Hurrache wrote: »

There's enough people on this forum alone who claim it's nothing to worry about until you're either old or have an underlying illness, they need a good slap about the face of the reality.

That's probably because patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions.

DangerScouse

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You can't close a border that doesn't exist. The manpower is not there to block all the roads either.

We have hundreds of thousands out of work. Of course the man power is there.

Plumbthedepths

DangerScouse wrote: »

We have hundreds of thousands out of work. Of course the man power is there.

Ha ha ha.

hetuzozaho

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure going on a county-by-county basis in terms of hospitals numbers is helpful.

It is if you want to paint Dublin as bold and everywhere else as good

ixoy

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure going on a county-by-county basis in terms of hospitals numbers is helpful.

It is when there's a bit of smug Dublin bashing going on...

Necro

drunkmonkey wrote:

I wouldn't allow it under any circumstances. I'm a few years off mine making it to secondary school so hopefully this is all anchient history by then. There a dangerous item and lead to increased infection and transmission not just of Covid, if not used correctly. All that bacteria isn't good to have them rebreathing.

Absolute and utter nonsense.

fits

podgeandrodge wrote: »

That's probably because patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions.

Do you have any sense of what it must be like for people who have or had loved ones in ICU to read that?

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Ha ha ha.

Could you imagine 20,000 taken off pup to seal off the border. :pac::pac:

Martina1991

Woody79 wrote:

The better we test trace isolate the better control we have. Look at germany and south korea. Efficient testing is one of the most important tools we have. I disagree with your post.

Of course its an important tool. But it is not the solution.

If cases were like fires popping up all over the place, tests are like smoke alarms. They'll tell you where the fire is but it won't put it out.

Reduce your contacts, wash your hands, wear a mask, put out the fire.

DangerScouse

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Ha ha ha.

There is those that see a problem and give in and there are those who see a solution to that same problem. I think it's fair to assume we all know which side you are on.

Plumbthedepths

fits wrote: »

Do you have any sense of what it must be like for people who have or had loved ones in ICU to read that?

So nothing should be said incase it causes upset even when it's largely true?

drunkmonkey

Necro wrote: »

Absolute and utter nonsense.

It's not, look at any science or health advice, Secondary transmission is a thing, if your going to call it nonsense back up your assumption.

Fr_Dougal

Any beers?

drunkmonkey

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm after hearing from 2 HSE workers, and I assume it's included in yesterday's figures of 36 yes. Would make sense, large increases are usually attributed to clusters.
Also lines up with the school cases. Any workers there would have kids in that area, and the schools would report those cases.

Is there a pattern starting to appear, look at Corks high cases and Dublins, it's not closed pubs there all centered around.
We changed the advice on what types of stores could open, it was first meant to be only ones with kerb side access, i.e they could let in fresh air.

kingshankly

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Any beers?

Well pubs are open

Necro

drunkmonkey wrote:

It's not, look at any science or health advice, Secondary transmission is a thing, if your going to call it nonsense back up your assumption.

I'm calling it nonsense because it is nonsense. You're making the claim that masks are unsafe, where's your evidence?

You're basically saying the health experts are trying to infect us with Covid by wearing masks.

Conspiracy Theory Forum

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Get outta town with that nonsense!

Plumbthedepths

DangerScouse wrote: »

There is those that see a problem and give in and there are those who see a solution to that same problem. I think it's fair to assume we all know which side you are on.

Thats not a solution , it's idiocy. There is also a matter of an international treaty that we as a nation signed up to.
As for sides ,more BS .

fits

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So nothing should be said incase it causes upset even when it's largely true?

It implies that they don't matter.

They do.

And people of all ages end up in there.

ACitizenErased

Bit of a balls not having the early case numbers

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've an underlying illness and am very calm about the whole situation, to be honest

Are you an overly positive person ACE?

I've anxious days

screamer

Widdensushi wrote: »

And no clusters in shops prior to masks being mandatory

That is only one variable. Perhaps no one covid +ve in the store in the time masks weren’t mandatory. Perhaps caught in the canteen where presumably masks are removed to eat and drink, but sure yes, of course mask wearing is the only possible explanation...... ffs

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are you an overly positive person ACE?

I've anxious days

Nope, regularly worry about things. Always stressed when it comes to college. Was anxious about COVID at the beginning, but my father’s a healthcare worker and generally positive about things. There’s a lot of healthcare workers who believe COVID was here long before March.

Gadgetman496

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Bit of a balls not having the early case numbers

Well, we know now that the figures are available around lunchtime each day, so why do they wait until 5, 6 or even 7 sometimes to release them?

iamwhoiam

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I never said anything about where they're coming from or who they are. It's a fact that Dublin's hospitals are seeing bigger increases per capita and in actual numbers compared to the rest of the country.

Dublin hospitals have more capacity so naturally the numbers in them will be up
Are you counting Leinster population to calculate per capita so ?

Our best estimate of infection-fatality ratio at present is that it ranges from around 0.1% in those aged 20-30 to 7-8% in those aged 85 and older. If we fail to protect the elderly, we may expect 4-6% mortality in those cases aged 65 years

Plumbthedepths

fits wrote: »

It implies that they don't matter.

They do.

And people of all ages end up in there.

It only implies what you want it to imply . The majority who end up in ICU due to Covid are mainly elderly or those with an underlying condition or both. Emotive language doesn't change that.

igCorcaigh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Our best estimate of infection-fatality ratio at present is that it ranges from around 0.1% in those aged 20-30 to 7-8% in those aged 85 and older. If we fail to protect the elderly, we may expect 4-6% mortality in those cases aged 65 years

Terribly bad odds for the elderly

drunkmonkey

Necro wrote: »

I'm calling it nonsense because it is nonsense. You're making the claim that masks are unsafe, where's your evidence?

You're basically saying the health experts are trying to infect us with Covid by wearing masks.

Conspiracy Theory Forum

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Get outta town with that nonsense!

Masks are unsafe if not used correctly, nobody has ever disputed that. Not sure why you are.

Yea I know the conspiracy forum is do you need directions...

eagle eye

ACitizenErased wrote:

You can't really use percentages increases when numbers are so low, especially comparing 8 with 23.

Of course you can, we are dealing with a curve.

Plumbthedepths

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Terribly bad odds for the elderly

85 is a year over the life expectancy of a female and 5 years for a male. I would think anything beyond ALE is a bonus to be honest and Covid has just become another illness that is lethal to the elderly.

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Nope, regularly worry about things. Always stressed when it comes to college. Was anxious about COVID at the beginning, but my father’s a healthcare worker and generally positive about things. There’s a lot of healthcare workers who believe COVID was here long before March.

Yes a few GPs have thought it was here too even as early as last December

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes a few GPs have thought it was here too even as early as last December

My grandmother was in Bons ICU for 3 weeks in november, tested negative for flu, luckily survived the ventilator. Father believes it was COVID.

eagle eye

This closing the border is ridiculous talk.
I'm all for no schools, no pubs to get us back on track but we don't need border control. We need to come to an agreement with NI about doing the same things. I'm sure they are willing to participate in an all island approach to curbing the spread of the virus.