Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

SleetAndSnow

Poster in the Cork thread also mentioning a possible cluster in Skibb. Needs to be taken into account how much bigger Cork is as a county vs Dublin.

screamer

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is nobody dieing of this if it is such a deadly virus. Numbers have been high for 6 to 8 weeks now. Where is the lag.

I’d say it’s the demographic who are catching it, younger healthier and not as vunerable as older people who were badly affected in spring. Plus viral load. I think viral loads are lower due to mask wearing.

spookwoman

JP Liz V1

TimeShifts1 wrote: »

334 cases. when will people realize that this could kill millions.

The young don't care according to the news, they won't cop on and limit their contacts and gatherings

Newbie20

Necro wrote: »

Can someone clear up the case comparison between Dublin and Cork, that seems mad :pac:

Dublin has a population of about 2 and a half times the population of Cork. So Corks 34 cases would be the equivalent of about 85 cases in Dublin. But there are a lot more than 85 cases in Dublin today! (174)

CruelSummer

froog wrote: »

just 38 ICU beds available.

This is not good enough. They’ve had months to make provisions for the upcoming winter, between test + trace and ICU capacity. I’m of the understanding our ICU capacity is barely enough in normal times never mind in a pandemic. Open to correction on that.

Widdensushi

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Poster in the Cork thread also mentioning a possible cluster in Skibb. Needs to be taken into account how much bigger Cork is as a county vs Dublin.

I think that cluster was a couple of weeks ago

Goldrickssan

Goldengirl wrote: »

THIS ..from INMO trolley watch today 22/ 09/ 2020. 8 am . TOP 10

UHL 66
CUH 36
MRH TULLAMORE 21
SLIGO UH 19
MAYO UH 19
MATER 17
ST LUKE'S KK 16
WEXFORD GH 15
KERRY UH 9
MERCY UH 9

Is trolley watching the same as airplane watching? Interesting hobby

Ohmeha

7 day average of percentage of cases between Dublin and the rest of country starting to show that the higher growth is easing a little in Dublin. This figure last week was averaging 56% of all cases in Dublin, this week it's trending down to 52%

Day Month Date Dublin % 7 Day Non-Dub % 7 Day
Wednesday September 2nd 53 0.60 0.47 36 0.40 0.53
Thursday September 3rd 51 0.54 0.50 44 0.46 0.50
Friday September 4th 24 0.24 0.47 74 0.76 0.53
Saturday September 5th 133 0.58 0.50 98 0.42 0.50
Sunday September 6th 68 0.49 0.48 70 0.51 0.52
Monday September 7th 56 0.55 0.50 46 0.45 0.50
Tuesday September 8th 182 0.59 0.51 125 0.41 0.49
Wednesday September 9th 51 0.61 0.51 33 0.39 0.49
Thursday September 10th 107 0.55 0.52 89 0.45 0.48
Friday September 11th 121 0.57 0.56 90 0.43 0.44
Saturday September 12th 75 0.47 0.55 84 0.53 0.45
Sunday September 13th 156 0.61 0.56 99 0.39 0.44
Monday September 14th 108 0.52 0.56 100 0.48 0.44
Tuesday September 15th 218 0.61 0.56 139 0.39 0.44
Wednesday September 16th 136 0.54 0.55 118 0.46 0.45
Thursday September 17th 119 0.50 0.55 121 0.50 0.45
Friday September 18th 116 0.46 0.53 137 0.54 0.47
Saturday September 19th 166 0.61 0.55 108 0.39 0.45
Sunday September 20th 241 0.61 0.55 155 0.39 0.45
Monday September 21st 76 0.40 0.53 112 0.60 0.47
Tuesday September 22nd 174 0.52 0.52 160 0.48 0.48

amadangomor

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is nobody dieing of this if it is such a deadly virus. Numbers have been high for 6 to 8 weeks now. Where is the lag.

Probably due to the demographic catching the virus now.

Vulnerable people still staying cautious/protected better and less vulnerable people getting relaxed so catching it.

It's a good thing if it's less deadly. Doesn't mean that we were wrong in our response to it. For vulnerable people it is still very deadly.

JP Liz V1

I know 34 seems low for Cork compared to the Dublin number but it has risen from 3, 4 or 5 to that, we all need to be careful, quite a few school cases for Cork

landofthetree

hynesie08 wrote: »

Numbers down on last Tuesday, no Deaths....... 2.4% positivity rate........

That's decent......

This is quite good news as testing numbers are high.

Polar101

BringBackMick wrote: »

Rates in Cork beginning to look quite scary now. 34 cases today...

If you adjusted that to compare to Dublin...it would be like having 200+ cases a day in Dublin or more. WOW

Cork county has ~550k population, so I guess you were looking at the city population.

So would be around ~88 when compared with the Dublin population.

It's not really surprising that the largest county and the second most populated county has cases.

Goldengirl

Newbie20 wrote: »

Dublin has a population of about 2 and a half times the population of Cork. So Corks 34 cases would be the equivalent of about 85 cases in Dublin. But there are a lot more than 85 cases in Dublin today! (174)

Population of Dublin is a lot more than 2.5 times Cork . Closer to 9 times !

amadangomor

Goldengirl wrote: »

Population if Dublin is a lot more than 2.5 times Cork . Closer to 9 times !

County vs county?

spookwoman

Would have thought there would have been some bleed over of cases into kerry with skibbereen.

amadangomor

Goldengirl wrote: »

Population of Dublin is a lot more than 2.5 times Cork . Closer to 9 times !

According to Wiki in the 2016 census Dublin county- 1,345,402
Cork county - 542,868

ACitizenErased

34 in Cork = ~86 in Dublin

Gradius

Numbers go up, numbers go down, numbers go up, numbers go down, numbers go up...and so on.

Every cycle is destroying the country more than the last.

There is no endpoint or conclusion or even goal. The whole thing is sheer madness.

JP Liz V1

amadangomor wrote: »

According to Wiki in the 2016 census Dublin county- 1,345,402
Cork county - 542,868

I always thought Cork was a bigger county than Dublin

Plumbthedepths

shinzon wrote: »

It had to happen UK goes into toilet roll panic buying after new restrictions announced


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/toilet-roll-sales-rise-by-more-than-a-fifth-amid-new-uk-covid-19-restrictions?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1600792969




Shin

Was/are the 'sh!ts' a symptom of Covid?

amadangomor

Gradius wrote: »

Numbers go up, numbers go down, numbers go up, numbers go down, numbers go up...and so on.

Every cycle is destroying the country more than the last.

There is no endpoint or conclusion or even goal. The whole thing is sheer madness.

No point calling it madness it's just the reality we find ourselves in.

There are no easy solutions so we just have to get on with it.

JP Liz V1

Gradius wrote: »

Numbers go up, numbers go down, numbers go up, numbers go down, numbers go up...and so on.

Every cycle is destroying the country more than the last.

There is no endpoint or conclusion or even goal. The whole thing is sheer madness.

I think the goal is to keep the numbers down

Funsterdelux

Time to put a barrier on Patricks Bridge, close the Jack Lynch Tunnel and cancel the ferry.

Goldengirl

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Is trolley watching the same as airplane watching? Interesting hobby

Not at all and much more serious .
It is the official INMO measurement of those waiting for beds, be they on a chair or trolley in A&E or on a ward .

Widdensushi

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Time to put a barrier on Patricks Bridge, close the Jack Lynch Tunnel and cancel the ferry.

Serious amount of Dublin people in Cork last weekend, hard to blame them, it's such a beautiful county!!!

CruelSummer

CruelSummer wrote: »

This is not good enough. They’ve had months to make provisions for the upcoming winter, between test + trace and ICU capacity. I’m of the understanding our ICU capacity is barely enough in normal times never mind in a pandemic. Open to correction on that.

This link is 7 months old, but indicates the variance in European countries of critical care capacity:



The irony is that a lot of the former eastern European countries have the higher capacities.

JP Liz V1

spookwoman wrote: »

Would have thought there would have been some bleed over of cases into kerry with skibbereen.

Even with the amount of tourists, Kerry is keeping low numbers

landofthetree

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is nobody dieing of this if it is such a deadly virus. Numbers have been high for 6 to 8 weeks now. Where is the lag.

The likes of Holland opened stuff us long before us,they are at record numbers of cases per day but so far the death rate is very low conpared to the first wave.

Hopefully it will stay that way.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

Goldengirl

CruelSummer wrote: »

This is not good enough. They’ve had months to make provisions for the upcoming winter, between test + trace and ICU capacity. I’m of the understanding our ICU capacity is barely enough in normal times never mind in a pandemic. Open to correction on that.

ICU capacity is fine normal times .
It's the number of available beds that is generally the problem pre Covid .

Goldengirl

amadangomor wrote: »

County vs county?

No, city vs city

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

The benefits to a childs mental health and well being far out weigh the minimal risks of catching Covid and dying. For some children school is the only 'safe' place they have. You however are unwilling to accept risk and that's your prerogative, however I sincerely hope the government does not bow to the abject terror projected by people such as yourself.

Are you a qualified psychiatrist? If not where are you getting your information as to Children's mental health?

As for your accusation if me projecting terror, I think you are way ott with that comment. There's no fear here in my home, just common sense and happy children.

Itssoeasy

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I always thought Cork was a bigger county than Dublin

It’s the biggest county by size not by population.

Gradius

amadangomor wrote: »

No point calling it madness it's just the reality we find ourselves in.

There are no easy solutions so we just have to get on with it.

The lack of a goal is the madness.

The current big-brain strategy of kicking the can down the road is madness.

It's a similar strategy to the malaria parasite. Surge and destroy for 24 hours, then hide and gain strength for the next 24 hours.

So, you feel wrecked for a day, then a glimmer of hope the next day as you recuperate. But it will be back. And it will keep coming back every time, weakening you until it eventually kills you. Very effective, slow and SURE!

Plumbthedepths

robbiezero wrote: »

Lower than last week.
Should we have our weekly Tuesday evening meltdown on the thread or not?

Yes we should, a shame not too.

Jim_Hodge

Goldengirl wrote: »

Population of Dublin is a lot more than 2.5 times Cork . Closer to 9 times !

Would you give over. The counts are by county and Dublin's population is just under 2.5 times that of Cork. 1.3 million versus 543000.

amadangomor

Goldengirl wrote: »

No, city vs city

The figures are done by county so no point comparing the cities alone.

Funsterdelux

Deleted User wrote: »

This link is 7 months old, but indicates the variance in European countries of critical care capacity:

https://www.covid-19.no/critical-care-bed-numbers-in-europe

The irony is that a lot of the former eastern European countries have the higher capacities.

Have we lost them to Asia?

:pac:

funnydoggy

There must be something in the no deaths. I know the young and healthy are getting it and are asymptomatic but it's the case across the world.

Fr_Dougal

Have they announced when Cork is moving to Level 3 yet?

ChikiChiki

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is nobody dieing of this if it is such a deadly virus. Numbers have been high for 6 to 8 weeks now. Where is the lag.

Numbers have not been high for 6 to 8 weeks. Why are people making such spurious nonsense claims? What little kick do you get when you post such drivel?

Goldengirl

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I always thought Cork was a bigger county than Dublin

It is , massively .
Dublin is primarily urban .
That Wiki statistic is ridiculously inaccurate .
It categorises Blanch and DunLaoighre for example as separate to Dublin.
If you go by electoral areas or health areas ,Dublin is closer to 1.6 million , including all those areas that are included for case measurement .
Maybe it's the same in Cork , eg not including Glanmire or Middleton would change population / case numbers drastically ?

Gradius

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think the goal is to keep the numbers down

Current strategy won't work, then.

Even if it were possible, what's the achievement? Waiting for a vaccine (not guaranteed) is kicking the can down the road.

So, instead of planning around something that may or may not happen, they damn well better start acting on reality.

blowitupref

Early days this week yet but good news to get less cases from more tests.

Monday and Tuesday last week 565 reported cases from 18,008 tests carried out.

Yesterday and today 522 cases from 22,490 tests carried out.

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote: »

Are you a qualified psychiatrist? If not where are you getting your information as to Children's mental health?

As for your accusation if me projecting terror, I think you are way ott with that comment. There's no fear here in my home, just common sense and happy children.

You don't need to be a psychiatrist to know socialisation is good for children.
As for projecting fear, I have seen many of your comments. If there was no fear in your house you wouldn't be homeschooling your children till a vaccine is found. You said this.
The thing about common sense it's not that common. Take care.

spookwoman

density 2016 census (cases) (population)
cork 72.3 (1807) (542,868)
Meath 83.2 (983) (195,044)
Kildare 131 (2468) (222,504)
Louth 155.4 (975) (128,884)
Dublin 1459.2 (15,717) (1,347,359)

Jim_Hodge

Goldengirl wrote: »

No, city vs city

That is irrelevant as counts are for counties.

Even so the ratio is still close to 2.5


554000 v 212000 by city.

Widdensushi

spookwoman wrote: »

Would have thought there would have been some bleed over of cases into kerry with skibbereen.

You would be in kerry from limerick quicker than from skibbereen, I can find no word of a cluster in skibbereen other than a five case one from about a fortnight ago.

wadacrack

funnydoggy wrote: »

There must be something in the no deaths. I know the young and healthy are getting it and are asymptomatic but it's the case across the world.

Better testing compared to Match, in general younger people getting infected and a lag at the moment. Better treatment and care also.

Nothing about the virus has changed if that's what you are implying

amadangomor

Gradius wrote: »

The lack of a goal is the madness.

The current big-brain strategy of kicking the can down the road is madness.

It's a similar strategy to the malaria parasite. Surge and destroy for 24 hours, then hide and gain strength for the next 24 hours.

So, you feel wrecked for a day, then a glimmer of hope the next day as you recuperate. But it will be back. And it will keep coming back every time, weakening you until it eventually kills you. Very effective, slow and SURE!

If everyone does their bit it helps stop the spread until we have a definite solution- hopefully a vaccine.

The government are far from perfect but are doing their best IMHO

It is a hard balancing act to save people from Covid but at the same time keeping the rest of the health and mental health needs on track and economy going.