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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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    #9122
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Staines throwing out the scenes from Bergamo and dead bodies in trucks in NY. We are so far from that.
    It would be interesting for RTE to bring on an actual working doctor in one of the busiest COVID hospitals like Beaumont or the Mater to give an actual opinion on the way things are right now. We don't seem to be seeing news reports of armageddon ICUs from Spain/France, for example.


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    #9123
    Pablo Escobar
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    stockshares wrote: »
    Does anyone know what our ICU capacity is now?

    Capacity is c.280 and current availability is c.45. Not a lot of runway.


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    #9124
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,095 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It would be interesting for RTE to bring on an actual working doctor in one of the busiest COVID hospitals like Beaumont or the Mater to give an actual opinion on the way things are right now. We don't seem to be seeing news reports of armageddon ICUs from Spain/France, for example.


    They did.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2020/0617/1148025-rte-investigates-inside-irelands-covid-battle/


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    #9125
    ACitizenErased
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    Pablo Escobar wrote: »
    Capacity is c.280 and current availability is c.45. Not a lot of runway.
    There's a surge plan in place, same as during March. I know the CUH have an entire ward sealed off for backup, for example.


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    #9126
    ACitizenErased
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    john4321 wrote: »
    They did.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2020/0617/1148025-rte-investigates-inside-irelands-covid-battle/
    That's the 1st of July, I'm talking about right now.


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    #9127
    Pablo Escobar
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    There's a surge plan in place, same as during March. I know the CUH have an entire ward sealed off for backup, for example.

    Yes, but you really don't want to have to go there.


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    #9128
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    there was a bit there on the Claire Byrne show where the experts are hammering home the message of indoor, household gatherings being high risk for covid infection. Also one of them saying we are heading towards another lockdown by Christmas time or the new year of we don't act now.

    Basically we all have a part to play to follow the guidelines that are laid out.

    This is the message that many in the medical and science fields are hammering out. Why doesn't the government step in and make this happen? I heard on the news over the weekend that in England, people are faced with up to 10,000 pounds fine of they are caught breaking isolation rules. That's proper order imo. We really need our government to bring in large fines for people who are going to break the guidelines on masks and social distancing and isolation guidelines.

    There was a blond guest on the show by video call. Her name was Niamh. The tone she was speaking in displays she's very playe that her young generation is locked up. It's overly dramatic for crying out loud. You're talking about restricting your close contacts and social gatherings for the foreseeable future to hammer down on the virus. <snip>


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    #9129
    SEPT 23 1989
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    We have had six months to increase ICU capacity


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    #9130
    ACitizenErased
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    Pablo Escobar wrote: »
    Yes, but you really don't want to have to go there.
    You don't, and the CUH certainly doesn't need it atm (1 patient) but it's there if needed. I assume every other hospital is the same.


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    #9131
    ACitizenErased
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    there was a bit there on the Claire Byrne show where the experts are hammering home the message of indoor, household gatherings being high risk for covid infection. Also one of them saying we are heading towards another lockdown by Christmas time or the new year of we don't act now.

    Basically we all have a part to play to follow the guidelines that are laid out.

    This is the message that many in the medical and science fields are hammering out. Why doesn't the government step in and make this happen? I heard on the news over the weekend that in England, people are faced with up to 10,000 pounds fine of they are caught breaking isolation rules. That's proper order imo. We really need our government to bring in large fines for people who are going to break the guidelines on masks and social distancing and isolation guidelines.

    There was a blond guest on the show by video call. Her name was Niamh. The tone she was speaking in displays she's very playe that her young generation is locked up. It's overly dramatic for crying out loud. You're talking about restricting your close contacts and social gatherings for the foreseeable future to hammer down on the virus. A night out for a lot of young people is just a chance to dress up like dirty, cheap prostitutes and get drunk and behave like dirty disgraces.
    That's a bit uncalled for, to be fair?


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    #9132
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    The absolute cheek of her . Shut the vulnerable in so the young ones can party

    My thoughts exactly.


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    #9133
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,095 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    That's the 1st of July, I'm talking about right now.


    To serve what purpose?

    Does the original documentary not give a fairly good idea of what happens when hospital numbers increase?


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    #9134
    stockshares
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    Pablo Escobar wrote: »
    Capacity is c.280 and current availability is c.45. Not a lot of runway.

    I was looking at an old spreadsheet and I think there is an extra 275 from private hospiat beds but I could be wrong on that.

    So somewhere between 500-569 in Total


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    #9135
    Happydays2020
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    Lock the airport, shut down the border (army can police it) and full lockdown for 8 weeks.

    Then what?


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    #9136
    ACitizenErased
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    john4321 wrote: »
    To serve what purpose?

    Does the original documentary not give a fairly good idea of what happens when hospital numbers increase?
    As far as the public is concerned all they're hearing is numbers and not seeing anything. I think if they want to make an actual difference in the public's eyes they should show them.


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    #9137
    ACitizenErased
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Lock the airport, shut down the border (army can police it) and full lockdown for 8 weeks.

    Then what?
    Pick up the pieces from our homes of rubble as we arise from armageddon.
    Replace 'our homes' with 'the economy'


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    #9138
    SEPT 23 1989
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    stockshares wrote: »
    I was looking at an old spreadsheet and I think there is an extra 275 from private hospiat beds but I could be wrong on that.

    So somewhere between 500-569 in Total

    Was the private hospital deal not knocked on the head


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    #9139
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    owlbethere wrote: »
    A night out for a lot of young people is just a chance to dress up like dirty, cheap prostitutes and get drunk and behave like dirty disgraces.

    What the f**k is that?? Horrendous comment. You have disgraced yourself there.


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    #9140
    owlbethere
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    That's a bit uncalled for, to be fair?

    That's exactly what a night out was pre covid for a lot of young people. Not everyone but a lot of people. Dresses so skimpy, I wear more going to bed. All it is getting dressed up to wear fcuk all and get drunk and fall about the place.


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    #9141
    ACitizenErased
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    That's exactly what a night out was pre covid for a lot of young people. Not everyone but a lot of people. Dresses so skimpy, I wear more going to bed. All it is getting dressed up to wear fcuk all and get drunk and fall about the place.
    Disgraceful comments. Grow up a little bit.


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    #9142
    OscarMIlde
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    amadangomor wrote: »
    There should be a medical scientist reserve created.

    People with science qualifications could train to carry out these tests and be called on for future pandemics. Similarly people could be trained in track and trace etc.

    The academy have a lot to answer for due to their past restrictive criteria. There were plenty of people I know with primary degrees/masters and even PhDs who would have loved to have transitioned into a career as a medical scientist but couldn't face completing an entirely new degree to qualify. There should have been conversion courses for experienced biologists to transfer over.


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    #9143
    Kh1993
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    The celeb doctors and experts don’t help. Not hard to sneer at some like O’Toole when you full well know they’re increasing their profile in the media from this.

    I know at the start, the one input that really affected me was Catherine Motherway I think on prime time. The likes of O’Toole and celeb docs are constant scaremongers, while loving the media coverage where they get to play referee in a tone deaf Claire Byrne Covid quiz.


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    #9144
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Economic destruction across the capital tonight and they are having a fcuking quiz


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    #9145
    bb1234567
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It would be interesting for RTE to bring on an actual working doctor in one of the busiest COVID hospitals like Beaumont or the Mater to give an actual opinion on the way things are right now. We don't seem to be seeing news reports of armageddon ICUs from Spain/France, for example.

    The situation is bad in Spain.
    https://apnews.com/94f0ded19728c9f7e33748b88cdf7019
    20% of all hospitals beds and 40% of ICUs in Madrid are currently occupied by covid patients. Don't see how that could be considered anything but a serious situation given we are only just heading towards colder weather season


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    #9146
    Santy2015
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Economic destruction across the capital tonight and they are having a fcuking quiz

    Sure it’s grand! The likes of Staines and co, would love nothing better then economic ruin!


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    #9147
    [Deleted User]
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    That's exactly what a night out was pre covid for a lot of young people. Not everyone but a lot of people. Dresses so skimpy, I wear more going to bed. All it is getting dressed up to wear fcuk all and get drunk and fall about the place.

    Bit of a silly comment.given when ever you were their age, what ever you wore probably made you look like a cheap prostitute in the eyes of older people, if you followed the fashion of the day.


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    #9148
    stockshares
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Was the private hospital deal not knocked on the head

    I'm not sure . I thought the state paid for those beds. Didn't Goodman benefit from it


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    #9149
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,095 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    As far as the public is concerned all they're hearing is numbers and not seeing anything. I think if they want to make an actual difference in the public's eyes they should show them.


    What would it achieve at present? Thankfully general hospital numbers and ICU numbers are low at present.

    Surely the original documentary does a good job of showing what an increase of cases can lead to and hopefully we won't have to see it again?


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    #9150
    Plumbthedepths
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    john4321 wrote: »
    They did.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2020/0617/1148025-rte-investigates-inside-irelands-covid-battle/

    He said right now, the article you linked was July 1st.


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    #9151
    fritzelly
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    stockshares wrote: »
    I'm not sure . I thought the state paid for those beds. Didn't Goodman benefit from it

    The deal is they can go back and utilise them if necessary since the original contract ended


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