Tour de France 2020 | Stage 13 (Châtel-Guyon - Puy Mary, 191.5 km)

GetWithIt

No plodders in that breakaway

Julian Alaphilippe, Remi Cavagna (both Deceuninck-Quick-Step), Simon Geschke (CCC), Dan Martin (Israel Start-up Nation), Marc Soler (Movistar), Pierre Rolland (B&B Hotels-Vital Concept), Warren Barguil (Arkea Samsic), Romain Sicard (Total Direct Energie), Hugh Carthy, Daniel Martinez, Neilson Powless (all EF Pro Cycling), Lennard Kamna, Max Schachmann (both Bora-Hansgrohe), David de la Cruz (UAE Team Emirates), Nicolas Edet (Cofidis), Valentin Madouas (Groupam-FDJ) and Pavel Sivakov (Ineos Grenadiers).

Macy0161

neris wrote: »

Doubt the Puy de Dome could have handled the modern tour and stupid amount of support vehicles, security, people etc even if they hadnt built the train thingy on it. Theres meant to be a load of climbs that the GTs cant access in their various countries because of the size of the races and support infrastructure following them

It's also for environmental concerns, and the damage done by visitors (not just cycling) according to The Cycling Podcast. Really great insights on things like this, as well as the cycling - François Thomazeau is involved in writing the tourist/ sites of interest stuff that is on the official website, and the pack that is sent to commentators.

Puy Mary is actually higher than the Puy de Dome, and the suggestion was that they're hoping to establish it as a finish. Also said ASO keep trying to go back up Puy de Dome. They have done other climbs that spectators weren't allowed, main issue would be support vehicles I imagine. Tour of Lombardy has one climb where they use motorbike support only. Get the riders to use the train back down?

brocbrocach

GetWithIt wrote: »

No plodders in that breakaway

Quality climbers almost all. Hopefully our man has been sandbagging from the start.

happytramp

Ewan in big trouble, already 10min back.

dastardly00

Macy0161 wrote: »

It's also for environmental concerns, and the damage done by visitors (not just cycling) according to The Cycling Podcast. Really great insights on things like this, as well as the cycling - François Thomazeau is involved in writing the tourist/ sites of interest stuff that is on the official website, and the pack that is sent to commentators.

Puy Mary is actually higher than the Puy de Dome, and the suggestion was that they're hoping to establish it as a finish. Also said ASO keep trying to go back up Puy de Dome. They have done other climbs that spectators weren't allowed, main issue would be support vehicles I imagine. Tour of Lombardy has one climb where they use motorbike support only. Get the riders to use the train back down?

I'm a big fan of François Thomazeau on The Cycling Podcast, I love listening to him


I'm guessing that the climb in the Tour of Lombardy that they only use motorbike support is the Muro di Sormano

neris

https://twitter.com/ukcyclingexpert/status/1304390029373042688?s=19

dastardly00

happytramp wrote: »

Ewan in big trouble, already 10min back.

Is Sam in the peloton or in a group that is between the peloton and Ewan's small group?

happytramp

happytramp wrote: »

Ewan in big trouble, already 10min back.

That's 10 minutes from Hugh Carthy though not the peloton.

dastardly00

dastardly00 wrote: »

Is Sam in the peloton or in a group that is between the peloton and Ewan's small group?

Looking at the timings live looks like he's in the cars.

neris

There was a stage finish up a climb on the giro 5 or 6 years ago where the road was so narrow they had to use mopeds for support and stop all the race traffic way before the climb. Name of the climb totally escapes me now

happytramp

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's 10 minutes from Hugh Carthy though not the peloton.

The time cut is taken from the winners finishing time right?

Junior

dastardly00 wrote: »

Is Sam in the peloton or in a group that is between the peloton and Ewan's small group?

Sam is back on as far as I can tell, Ewan is ~ 5 Minutes back from the remains of the Peloton (with Jumbo and Roglic) - he has a big ole day a head of him.

SHowing him in the peloton here https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/13

EDIT: God he looks shagged coming over the top there.

neris

Carlton doesn't sound like he's holding out much hope for Sam

Boscoirl

Can’t believe it was 2011 when yer man was thrown into the barbed wire

Only feels like 2 or 3 years ago

As a coincidence my dad was at my house in 2011 when that happened and he's here again now today watching with me.

Bardet and Quintana down.

Steve SilverMint

Bauke Mollema abandons

dastardly00

Boscoirl wrote: »

Can’t believe it was 2011 when yer man was thrown into the barbed wire

Only feels like 2 or 3 years ago

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As a coincidence my dad was at my house in 2011 when that happened and he's here again now today watching with me.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Bardet and Quintana down.

Steve SilverMint wrote: »

Bauke Mollema abandons

I did notice Mollema off the back when I was checking the timings on Sam earlier. They are saying a crash on Eurosport for him.

Eamonnator

Boscoirl wrote: »

Can’t believe it was 2011 when yer man was thrown into the barbed wire

Only feels like 2 or 3 years ago

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hoogerland-to-sue-over-tour-de-france-2011-crash/

Don't look, if you're squeamish.

dastardly00

That is a quality chateau

dastardly00

Sam is dropping off the back of the peloton. Is there any grupetto? There doesn't seem to be based on the TdF app.

neris

Boscoirl wrote: »

Can’t believe it was 2011 when yer man was thrown into the barbed wire

Only feels like 2 or 3 years ago

Flecha talked about that incident a few years ago when he was on the eurosport commentary team and it still hadnt been sorted out back then.

no_4

He’s in the cars, looks like he’s struggling but he has two team mates with him

Peloton is 9 mins behind break now, 55 km left to go

dastardly00 wrote: »

Sam is dropping off the back of the peloton. Is there any grupetto? There doesn't seem to be based on the TdF app.

Inquitus

dastardly00 wrote: »

Sam is dropping off the back of the peloton. Is there any grupetto? There doesn't seem to be based on the TdF app.

If Sam's off the back there's another 10 sprinters gone before him plus their helpers.

Edit: He's back anyways.

neris

dastardly00 wrote: »

That is a quality chateau

Amazing how well looked after & preserved alot of them are when you consider that what's left of alot of the Anglo Irish big houses here are in ruins or families struggle to keep them habitable

MPFGLB

He is back !!


https://twitter.com/ukcyclingexpert/status/1304389638673625091?s=20

no_4

Sam back in peloton/grupetto

retalivity

The break would want to get the finger out sharpish