The Great Reset

Quiner

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She's a retired estate agent and seems a bit unwell, hopefully it's just too much spare time.

Who wrote an important book on Agenda 21 called 'Behind the Green Mask'. It's well worth reading.

Here she talks about Agenda 21 and 'new normal' in 2012: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2mn5RzER3U9A/

The entire presentation is available to watch on YouTube for people who distrust bitchute.

Mister Vain

Where do the lizard people fit into all this?

sydthebeat

Mister Vain wrote: »

Where do the lizard people fit into all this?

"Rockefeller" is Mandarin Chinese for "lizard face"

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

Who wrote an important book on Agenda 21 called 'Behind the Green Mask'. It's well worth reading.

Here she talks about Agenda 21 and 'new normal' in 2012: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2mn5RzER3U9A/

The entire presentation is available to watch on YouTube for people who distrust bitchute.

Just because it's on YouTube does not make her more than a conspiracy theorist with a background in real estate... Only days ago you were pushing Kanye West talking about the mark of the beast. You're pretty loose with who's reputable...

Dohnjoe

Quiner wrote: »

Millions? How is a small cabal of elites millions?

Are these the hedge fund managers, the ones who dictate policy to all world leaders, e.g. Angela Merkel, and "order them" to destroy their national economy using the pandemic as a ruse, or is it another group now?

Quiner

You have to look behind the green mask:

Rosa Koire in 2012: "Agenda 21 is dependent on a hegelian dialectic, and that says that a crisis is created and a solution is posed, and the balance between the two becomes the 'new normal', which is something you never would have accepted, but now that there is a crisis you are forced or pressured to accept this new solution."

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fmDQxvVn45Hx/ (Rosa Koire prophesising the 'new normal' in 2012).

How did she know the 'new normal' would come to pass? She has been dismissed as a 'retired real estate agent'.

Quiner

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because it's on YouTube does not make her more than a conspiracy theorist with a background in real estate... Only days ago you were pushing Kanye West talking about the mark of the beast. You're pretty loose with who's reputable...

But she prophesised the 'new normal' as far back as 2012.

I only pointed that out because he is a former US Presidential candidate. To show that it's not just "conspiracy theorists" who are saying it.

namloc1980

Quiner wrote: »

It takes a long time to achieve global domination. Agenda 21 was signed in 1992. Many believe that to be the UN agenda for global control. Check out Rosa Koire. She's an expert on Agenda 21.

What do you think Rockefeller meant by what he said in 1991? The man himself died in 2017.

I asked you this before but as usual got no answers. Please give us examples of the evil Agenda 21 that have been implemented all over the world.

King Mob

Quiner wrote: »

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I only pointed that out because he is a former US Presidential candidate. To show that it's not just "conspiracy theorists" who are saying it.

No, famous people can be conspiracy theorists.
Just because some one made a vanity run for president it does mean they are immune to the same failures of critical thinking you are.

robinph

Quiner wrote: »

Millions? How is a small cabal of elites millions?

So it's just a handful of selected world leader in on it then?

Is Trump in on it? He doesn't seem to be following any particular plan to reset the world, other than attempting to destroy US democracy by idiocy. If he's not in on it then does he know about the plan? Why isn't he blowing the whistle on it? If you are about to claim that he is actually blowing the whistle then why can't he even manage to do that very well as he's failing to expose the conspiracy.

Are any other world leaders in on the plan? What about Boris Johnson? Did he know about the intentions for 2020 back in 2019 when the virus was first detected in China? What would have happened if he'd lost the election in December? Was Jeremy Corbyn in on it as well? How come he didn't spill the beans?

If none of these elected leaders are in on the plan because of the minor issue of them having to survive elections, then who is running the system in the background to keep all the worlds countries following the same plan to hide what is really happening from us? What level of civil servants in each country are in on this? How come nobody else in any of the worlds civil services have wondered why Sir Bob The Lizard who runs the civil service is coming up with weird plans that don't make sense or follow what they are being told to do by their elected heads.

Even if it were possible for there to be just one person running things in each country to follow this plan, that is still 200+ people (one for each country) that has to be following this plan, and communicating with the Bond Villain in the volcano without any of their colleagues in the various national governments or civil services noticing or questioning anything they are saying.

robinph

Quiner wrote: »

But she prophesised the 'new normal' as far back as 2012.

I only pointed that out because he is a former US Presidential candidate. To show that it's not just "conspiracy theorists" who are saying it.

I hereby prophesise that tomorrow morning the sun will rise in the east.

Please don't burn me at the stake if that happens, I promise I'm not a lizard person.

Quiner

robinph wrote: »

So it's just a handful of selected world leader in on it then?

Is Trump in on it? He doesn't seem to be following any particular plan to reset the world, other than attempting to destroy US democracy by idiocy. If he's not in on it then does he know about the plan? Why isn't he blowing the whistle on it? If you are about to claim that he is actually blowing the whistle then why can't he even manage to do that very well as he's failing to expose the conspiracy.

Are any other world leaders in on the plan? What about Boris Johnson? Did he know about the intentions for 2020 back in 2019 when the virus was first detected in China? What would have happened if he'd lost the election in December? Was Jeremy Corbyn in on it as well? How come he didn't spill the beans?

If none of these elected leaders are in on the plan because of the minor issue of them having to survive elections, then who is running the system in the background to keep all the worlds countries following the same plan to hide what is really happening from us? What level of civil servants in each country are in on this? How come nobody else in any of the worlds civil services have wondered why Sir Bob The Lizard who runs the civil service is coming up with weird plans that don't make sense or follow what they are being told to do by their elected heads.

Even if it were possible for there to be just one person running things in each country to follow this plan, that is still 200+ people (one for each country) that has to be following this plan, and communicating with the Bond Villain in the volcano without any of their colleagues in the various national governments or civil services noticing or questioning anything they are saying.

Not world leaders necessarily, but a cabal of bankers and heads of corporations and supranational organisations such as the UN, the Rockefeller Foundation and WEF. As David Rockefeller touched on in 1991:

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”

What did David Rockefeller mean when he said that in 1991? The directors "respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years". Why would it be impossible for s relatively small group of people to not spill the beans when those directors said nothing for almost 40 years about Rockefeller and his associates "plan for the world"?

And don't forget that the head of WHO was accused of covering up three outbreaks of cholera. And he was a member of an organisation that was categorised as a terrorist organisation by the US. Is he to be trusted?

Quiner

robinph wrote: »

I hereby prophesise that tomorrow morning the sun will rise in the east.

Please don't burn me at the stake if that happens, I promise I'm not a lizard person.

A tad different from what Rosa Koire predicted in 2012.

Quiner

namloc1980 wrote: »

I asked you this before but as usual got no answers. Please give us examples of the evil Agenda 21 that have been implemented all over the world.

Rosa Koire gives examples of Agenda 21 in the US in the following interview: https://www.stitcher.com/show/america-daily-top-stories-of-the-day/episode/exposing-un-agenda-21-with-rosa-koire-65124805

"I was wondering if you could tell us what Agenda 21 looks like at the local level. What might people be seeing right now in their own town?

Rosa Koire: The way the plan works is, as I said, it’s global but implemented locally. So there you are in a real small town, or you could be in New York City, or you could be in London, or a small town in Italy. It’s an international plan, and it basically says that human beings are using too much. They’re using too much water, too much energy. They should be living close to their work.

The ideal situation would be what you see in China where you’re living upstairs from your factory. You don’t need to use any energy or any water because you don’t have a yard and you hardly have any living space. And then you just go downstairs to the factory and you work. And that’s your thing. There’s very little private, individual space. And there’s a name for this. It’s an ideology and it’s also a design style called smart growth.

What Does Agenda 21 Look Like Locally?
Rosa Koire: In the U.S. you’ll see it like this: It’s a high density development, so that’s lots of condos on top of shops, or at least the space for shops. They might be empty. These are ground floor retail spaces, 12 feet high, built right to the edge of the sidewalk, with one car or less per unit. That’s up above two or three or four more stories of residential on top. It’s built along your main streets. And your streets then are narrowed to one lane in each direction. Sometimes there’s a parking lane. There’s going to be a bike lane, and then there’s going to be a median in the middle of the street. And this is called a complete street.

This is a federal program, complete streets. A lot of towns get funding for this, and a lot of people don’t know that their properties…have been re-designated in your general plan. You own it and you have no idea that the land use has been changed without you knowing. And now you have to build that kind of development. And very few people have the funding for that kind of development. It’s a very elaborate plan, very well designed–and I’m talking about the worldwide plan. And people really don’t know about it. It’s a stealth plan that’s out there in plain sight."

Spain: https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en/presidente/news/Paginas/2019/20190925un-2030agenda.aspx

Ireland: https://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/ireland/inst.htm

Just Google it. It's all out there. Rosa Koire is an expert on all things Agenda 21. She's well worth checking out.

cryptocurrency

Quiner wrote: »

Not world leaders necessarily, but a cabal of bankers and heads of corporations and supranational organisations such as the UN, the Rockefeller Foundation and WEF. As David Rockefeller touched on in 1991:

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”

What did David Rockefeller mean when he said that in 1991? The directors "respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years". Why would it be impossible for s relatively small group of people to not spill the beans when those directors said nothing for almost 40 years about Rockefeller and his associates "plan for the world"?

And don't forget that the head of WHO was accused of covering up three outbreaks of cholera. And he was a member of an organisation that was categorised as a terrorist organisation by the US. Is he to be trusted?

The power of the US in 1991 and the likes of David Rockefeller is vastly different now ..The US had free reign to do what it liked and that is what built their plans and world view. Now, I would say with the Chinese, a revitalised Russia, rising powers like India and Indonesia, Iran etc.. The masterplan would be laughed at unless you got all of them on board and serious carrots not bit parts in that...even then they would not trust each other.

When you actually look at it this way you start to dismiss the whole concept. Unless Rockafella and Co are happy to give more of a pie to the likes of some Chinese or Russian magnet

Dohnjoe

Quiner wrote: »

"Agenda 21"

The conspiracy interpretation of which is bunk

Fact-check and explanation here
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/

What's more telling is the fact that you systematically fall for these baseless conspiracies without the slightest semblance of skepticism

robinph

Quiner wrote: »

Not world leaders necessarily, but a cabal of bankers and heads of corporations and supranational organisations such as the UN, the Rockefeller Foundation and WEF.

And who is appointed to this group to control what happens in each country? Is it the central bank in each country that is mandating that people should wear masks? Are those bankers the same people deciding on when vaccines are approved? How have they managed to infiltrate the health services in each country to fake the death statistics and get each countries government to report the same way in types of deaths and synchronise when each country detects different waves of the virus? Why has New Zealand been allowed to not report the same ratio of deaths, and if they don't have the same deaths and rates of covid then why are they still locking down international travel? How come if it's all a fake pandemic and only New Zealand knows about it that they haven't leaked this information somewhere? Or if they were not in on the plan in the first place (which would explain their low numbers) then why haven't they just said to the rest of us it's a hoax?

namloc1980

Quiner wrote: »

Rosa Koire gives examples of Agenda 21 in the US in the following interview: https://www.stitcher.com/show/america-daily-top-stories-of-the-day/episode/exposing-un-agenda-21-with-rosa-koire-65124805

"I was wondering if you could tell us what Agenda 21 looks like at the local level. What might people be seeing right now in their own town?

Rosa Koire: The way the plan works is, as I said, it’s global but implemented locally. So there you are in a real small town, or you could be in New York City, or you could be in London, or a small town in Italy. It’s an international plan, and it basically says that human beings are using too much. They’re using too much water, too much energy. They should be living close to their work.

The ideal situation would be what you see in China where you’re living upstairs from your factory. You don’t need to use any energy or any water because you don’t have a yard and you hardly have any living space. And then you just go downstairs to the factory and you work. And that’s your thing. There’s very little private, individual space. And there’s a name for this. It’s an ideology and it’s also a design style called smart growth.

What Does Agenda 21 Look Like Locally?
Rosa Koire: In the U.S. you’ll see it like this: It’s a high density development, so that’s lots of condos on top of shops, or at least the space for shops. They might be empty. These are ground floor retail spaces, 12 feet high, built right to the edge of the sidewalk, with one car or less per unit. That’s up above two or three or four more stories of residential on top. It’s built along your main streets. And your streets then are narrowed to one lane in each direction. Sometimes there’s a parking lane. There’s going to be a bike lane, and then there’s going to be a median in the middle of the street. And this is called a complete street.

This is a federal program, complete streets. A lot of towns get funding for this, and a lot of people don’t know that their properties…have been re-designated in your general plan. You own it and you have no idea that the land use has been changed without you knowing. And now you have to build that kind of development. And very few people have the funding for that kind of development. It’s a very elaborate plan, very well designed–and I’m talking about the worldwide plan. And people really don’t know about it. It’s a stealth plan that’s out there in plain sight."

Spain: https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en/presidente/news/Paginas/2019/20190925un-2030agenda.aspx

Ireland: https://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/ireland/inst.htm

Just Google it. It's all out there. Rosa Koire is an expert on all things Agenda 21. She's well worth checking out.

So no examples, just all conjecture and what might happen. Safe to say you have no real world examples. For an evil plan that's been around for 30 years you can't point to any REAL WORLD examples? Thought so.

robinph

Quiner wrote: »

A tad different from what Rosa Koire predicted in 2012.

Never hear of them before, but predicting that there would at some point be another global pandemic isn't exactly an out there idea. It's basically guaranteed to happen. Also there will be an asteroid that hits the planet at some point in the future, and a major earthquake in California, and another nuclear energy plant will explode, and some countries will go to war about something daft.

Predicting these things is not anything special, they are going to happen...just a matter of when.

Quiner

cryptocurrency wrote: »

The power of the US in 1991 and the likes of David Rockefeller is vastly different now ..The US had free reign to do what it liked and that is what built their plans and world view. Now, I would say with the Chinese, a revitalised Russia, rising powers like India and Indonesia, Iran etc.. The masterplan would be laughed at unless you got all of them on board and serious carrots not bit parts in that...even then they would not trust each other.

When you actually look at it this way you start to dismiss the whole concept. Unless Rockafella and Co are happy to give more of a pie to the likes of some Chinese or Russian magnet

That's true, but the idea that it's impossible for a relatively small number of people to keep quiet about a global plan is torn to shreds by David Rockefeller's thanking the directors of the various newspapers and media organisations he mentioned in the speech he gave in 1991. And then, as I have pointed out a few times, you have the fact that the man who heads WHO was accused of covering up three outbreaks of cholera and was a member of an organisation that was categorised as a terrorist organisation by the US Government. So he's hardly to be trusted.

It's knowing what those serious carrots are, or would be. That's the puzzle.

Quiner

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The conspiracy interpretation of which is bunk

Fact-check and explanation here
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/

What's more telling is the fact that you systematically fall for these baseless conspiracies without the slightest semblance of skepticism

I'm sceptical about everything I read and come across, but I don't trust the mainstream media, and for good reason: https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/media-private-ccp-dinners-trips/

"A host of corporate media outlets including CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and MSNBC have participated in private dinners and sponsored trips with the China-United States Exchange Foundation, a Chinese Communist Party-funded group seeking to garner “favorable coverage” and “disseminate positive messages” regarding China, The National Pulse can reveal."

And then there's David Rockefeller thanking those various news and media organisations in 1991.

Quiner

robinph wrote: »

Never hear of them before, but predicting that there would at some point be another global pandemic isn't exactly an out there idea. It's basically guaranteed to happen. Also there will be an asteroid that hits the planet at some point in the future, and a major earthquake in California, and another nuclear energy plant will explode, and some countries will go to war about something daft.

Predicting these things is not anything special, they are going to happen...just a matter of when.

But it was 'new normal' she specifically predicted. She claimed it would happen as a result of Agenda 21. And fast forward to 2020 and what she said would happen happened.

robinph

Quiner wrote: »

That's true, but the idea that it's impossible for a relatively small number of people to keep quiet about a global plan is torn to shreds by David Rockefeller's thanking the directors of the various newspapers and media organisations he mentioned in the speech he gave in 1991. And then, as I have pointed out a few times, you have the fact that the man who heads WHO was accused of covering up three outbreaks of cholera and was a member of an organisation that was categorised as a terrorist organisation by the US Government. So he's hardly to be trusted.

It's knowing what those serious carrots are, or would be. That's the puzzle.

Which newspapers? In which countries?

Nothing particularly tricky about getting a small bunch of them to agree to something, UK newspapers will keep shtum about various things and not print certain things about the Royals for example...doesn't mean that they don't sell the stories to other countries newspapers though and the stories get out anyway.

Your claim is based on requiring all countries worldwide to be in on it and somehow keeping it quiet through all their various different political systems and bureaucracies, or lack of.

King Mob

Quiner wrote: »

I'm sceptical about everything I read and come across,

That statement is provably false.
You've copy pasted from Gemma O'Doherty.

namloc1980

Quiner wrote: »

I'm sceptical about everything I read and come across, but I don't trust the mainstream media, and for good reason: https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/media-private-ccp-dinners-trips/

"A host of corporate media outlets including CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and MSNBC have participated in private dinners and sponsored trips with the China-United States Exchange Foundation, a Chinese Communist Party-funded group seeking to garner “favorable coverage” and “disseminate positive messages” regarding China, The National Pulse can reveal."

And then there's David Rockefeller thanking those various news and media organisations in 1991.

LOL. This from the guy who cited an article by Gemma O'Doherty to back up his claims!!! Hilarious but you're not fooling anyone. You swallow this Great Reset conspiracy stuff hook, line and sinker without question - yet you claim to be sceptical! :pac:

Quiner

namloc1980 wrote: »

So no examples, just all conjecture and what might happen. Safe to say you have no real world examples. For an evil plan that's been around for 30 years you can't point to any REAL WORLD examples? Thought so.

I think it's her use of 'might' that's the problem. Really it means 'they are' in this case . It doesn't mean 'it's possible that'. At least that's how I understand it.

namloc1980

Quiner wrote: »

I think it's her use of 'might' that's the problem. Really it means 'they are' in this case . It doesn't mean 'it's possible that'. At least that's how I understand it.

Once again can you give ANY real world examples of this evil Agenda 21 plan being implemented? Anything?

robinph

Quiner wrote: »

But it was 'new normal' she specifically predicted. She claimed it would happen as a result of Agenda 21. And fast forward to 2020 and what she said would happen happened.

What, she predicted something would happen and used the term "new normal" to describe something that would then be a new way of doing normal things? Astounding prophetical abilities there to use those particular two words to describe something that is a new normal.

Would it have been out of the realms of possibility for someone in the '70's to think that vinyl records would at some point be replaced by something smaller and circular and coin the term a "disc of compactness" to describe it?

Quiner

robinph wrote: »

Which newspapers? In which countries?

Nothing particularly tricky about getting a small bunch of them to agree to something, UK newspapers will keep shtum about various things and not print certain things about the Royals for example...doesn't mean that they don't sell the stories to other countries newspapers though and the stories get out anyway.

Your claim is based on requiring all countries worldwide to be in on it and somehow keeping it quiet through all their various different political systems and bureaucracies, or lack of.

David Rockefeller in 1991: “We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”

It's not my claim. It's what is being claimed by Rosa Koire and others all around the world.

PCeeeee

Quiner wrote: »

I'm sceptical about everything I read and come across, but I don't trust the mainstream media, and for good reason.

No one should believe any media blindly, 'mainstream' or otherwise. The problem with Conspiracy Theorists in general is that they do not apply the same level of critical thinking to sources that align to their own views.

Not a problem that only Conspiracy Theorists have to be fair.

Using a crisis to precipitate institutional or societal change is not a new idea or even a conspiracy. It happens, will happen and is perhaps as good a way as any to make changes.