The Great Reset

Quiner

Penfailed wrote: »

Again, they don't control almost all aspects of my life. Shock horror, I crossed a county boundary today. The sky didn't fall in.

But a lot of people are afraid to leave their own county. I mean they control what we can do, which is very little at the moment. I am for proportionate measures. Instead we just get lockdowns every few weeks. It's not sustainable.

EyesClosed

Quiner wrote: »

Measures that are proportionate, sure. But we're on lockdown no 3 or 4 (that level 4 and 5 nonsense is basically lockdown) here. There won't be a country soon enough.

The conspiracy is that it's being done by design. That's what those who are against the Great Reset are arguing.

Right but you admit it's due to a pandemic which killed 13 people today... So wheres the design?

Quiner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

If governments were controlling all aspects of our lives then there would be no pandemic because the wouldn’t have the opportunities to spread as it is currently.

This brings us to the criticisms of the PCR test, but that's not really my area (some will argue I don't have any area :pac:). Lex Luthor knows more about that than me. He posted a couple of informative posts about it the other day. I hope he doesn't mind my mentioning him.

Fighting Tao

Quiner wrote: »

This brings us to the criticisms of the PCR test, but that's not really my area (some will argue I don't have any area :pac:). Lex Luthor knows more about that than me. He posted a couple of informative posts about it the other day. I hope he doesn't mind my mentioning him.

No it does not bring us to the subject of tests. You were telling us repeatedly that the government controls all aspects of your lives. Your BS is well, BS. Stop trying to deflect again.

Penfailed

Quiner wrote: »

But a lot of people are afraid to leave their own county. I mean they control what we can do, which is very little at the moment. I am for proportionate measures. Instead we just get lockdowns every few weeks. It's not sustainable.

You should choose your words more carefully.

You said that masks are permanent - they're not.
You said that Sweden is cashless - it's not.
You said that the government controls all aspects of life - it doesn't.

namloc1980

Quiner wrote: »

https://www.cityam.com/londons-new-cycle-lanes-are-causing-traffic-chaos-says-transport-secretary/

That says that some of the schemes may need to be tweaked and adjusted which makes sense. To argue that accomodating cycling in urban areas is not only a bad thing but evidence of a great evil conspiracy is just bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.

EyesClosed

Penfailed wrote: »

You should choose your words more carefully.

You said that masks are permanent - they're not.
You said that Sweden is cashless - it's not.
You said that the government controls all aspects of life - it doesn't.

Don't forget that bike lanes are by design to push the great reset... They are not

aido79

Quiner wrote: »

Measures that are proportionate, sure. But we're on lockdown no 3 or 4 (that level 4 and 5 nonsense is basically lockdown) here. There won't be a country soon enough.

The conspiracy is that it's being done by design. That's what those who are against the Great Reset are arguing.

What measures do you think would be proportionate at the minute in Ireland?
In case you haven't noticed there's been a pattern. When there's a lockdown numbers being hospitalised drops and when the lockdown ends more people are hospitalised. This pattern repeats all over the world.

Who is designing the great reset?

Quiner

Penfailed wrote: »

You should choose your words more carefully.

You said that masks are permanent - they're not.
You said that Sweden is cashless - it's not.
You said that the government controls all aspects of life - it doesn't.

It's more or less cashless and will probably be fully cashless in a couple of years.

I think the talk I hear every day about them suggests they could be permanent.

I gave my opinion on government control of our lives. You disagree. That's fine.

EyesClosed

aido79 wrote: »

Who is designing the great reset?

Cyclists

Timberrrrrrrr

EyesClosed wrote: »

Cyclists

Lycia clad bastàrds forcing me to have a vaccine and get chipped

sydthebeat

Hang on, is the conspiracy now that Rockefeller designed the covid virus in 1951????

Mad Ted....

Quiner

namloc1980 wrote: »

That says that some of the schemes may need to be tweaked and adjusted which makes sense. To argue that accomodating cycling in urban areas is not only a bad thing but evidence of a great evil conspiracy is just bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.

Never said it was a bad thing. I directed you to an interview with Rosa Koire in which she refers to cycle lanes. Why not read about what she has to say about cycle lanes and Agenda 21 instead of throwing out words like 'bizarre' and 'bonkers'? I'm reading Reuters at the moment after another poster recommended them. I don't know why people can't be open to reading the opinions of people they disagree with. I do it all the time regardless of how it might seem here.

Lex Luthor

Lex Luthor wrote: »

So Bill says 2022
https://www.theblaze.com/amp/bill-gates-coronavirus-vaccine-lockdowns-restaurants-2649471937?__twitter_impression=true

Martin says  "This time we truly have an end in sight.“

If Bill says 2022, then Michael shouldn’t contradict him
Bill is calling the shots

Just to point out in relation to this, the US lacks an infrastructure for socialised healthcare so struggle to deliver things like vaccines on this scale. So yep, it probably will be 2022 when America can consider some normality. It'll vary by country. That's a reality. Not an evil plot.

EyesClosed

Quiner wrote: »

Never said it was a bad thing. I directed you to an interview with Rosa Koire in which she refers to cycle lanes. Why not read about what she has to say about cycle lanes and Agenda 21 instead of throwing out words like 'bizarre' and 'bonkers'? I'm reading Reuters at the moment after another poster recommended them. I don't know why people can't be open to reading the opinions of people they disagree with. I do it all the time regardless of how it might seem here.

Because she's wrong, and we proved her wrong. Will you accept cycle lanes where voted in here? And are loved by the Dutch. And the ones in London where removed.

Quiner

aido79 wrote: »

What measures do you think would be proportionate at the minute in Ireland?
In case you haven't noticed there's been a pattern. When there's a lockdown numbers being hospitalised drops and when the lockdown ends more people are hospitalised. This pattern repeats all over the world.

Who is designing the great reset?

I said a couple of days ago that I'd try out the Great Barrington Declaration approach. It'd be up to the public health officials to work out how to implement it. They could discuss it with Professor Gupta and others. Do you agree that endless lockdowns are unsustainable?

Quiner

EyesClosed wrote: »

Because she's wrong, and we proved her wrong. Will you accept cycle lanes where voted in here? And are loved by the Dutch. And the ones in London where removed.

How did you prove her wrong?

I'm not against cycle lanes. I like them. I'm saying that Rosa Koire considers them to be part of Agenda 21.

EyesClosed

Quiner wrote: »

How did you prove her wrong?

I'm not against cycle lanes. I like them. I'm saying that Rosa Koire considers them to be part of Agenda 21.

I proved her wrong by showing you that we voted for them. They wouldn't be here unless that happened.

Quiner

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Quiner

EyesClosed wrote: »

I proved her wrong by showing you that we voted for them. They wouldn't be here unless that happened.

But she was talking about the US in that interview.

EyesClosed

Quiner wrote: »

But she was talking about the US in that interview.

Right so the reset is not global then? Grand why worry

Fighting Tao

Quiner wrote: »

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Have you read the book yourself yet? A question you avoided already.

President elect of what?

namloc1980

Quiner wrote: »

How did you prove her wrong?

I'm not against cycle lanes. I like them. I'm saying that Rosa Koire considers them to be part of Agenda 21.

So what's the evil conspiracy angle to bike lanes?

Timberrrrrrrr

Quiner wrote: »

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Meanwhile in this interview Gates talks about how things will get back to normal in 2021, no mention of another pandemic

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-bill-gates-predicts-when-things-will-get-back-to-normal-in-2021-20201230?source=twitter

2 fast

Quiner wrote: »

Yep. And possibly on public transport:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/masks-part-of-melbourne-s-public-transport-and-flu-seasons-for-years-to-come-20201210-p56m9o.html

I don't see any harm! Less people coughing, sneezing and sputtering on top of people.

Ted_YNWA

Quiner wrote: »

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

And who is he.

"Entrepreneur・Product & Interior Designer・RE/Property Mgr・Brexiteer・Trumpster・Intactivist・Unsolicited Political Pundit"

Are you looking at Interior Designers & Property Manager for the inside scoop now?

The list of people involved must be nearly everyone except you at this rate. No wonder you are getting paranoid. We are out to get you possessions.

Quiner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Meanwhile in this interview Gates talks about how things will get back to normal in 2021, no mention of another pandemic

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-bill-gates-predicts-when-things-will-get-back-to-normal-in-2021-20201230?source=twitter

Still only much closer to normal. But like Hancock's 'semblance of normality'.

Also what does he mean by "have to live with various restrictions":

"The Microsoft billionaire also reckons that while we will likely have to live with various restrictions, eventually, life 'will be much closer to normal than it is now'."

Does he mean post-vaccination?

namloc1980

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

And who is he.

"Entrepreneur・Product & Interior Designer・RE/Property Mgr・Brexiteer・Trumpster・Intactivist・Unsolicited Political Pundit"

Are you looking at Interior Designers & Property Manager for the inside scoop now?

The list of people involved must be nearly everyone except you at this rate. No wonder you are getting paranoid. We are out to get you possessions.

"Brexiteer & Trumpster" tells you all you need to know to be honest. Anyway I'm intrigued to know what he's President-elect of?

Lex Luthor

Quiner wrote: »

But a lot of people are afraid to leave their own county. I mean they control what we can do, which is very little at the moment. I am for proportionate measures. Instead we just get lockdowns every few weeks. It's not sustainable.

If people choose to stay within their own county or 5km then they choose to do so

Nobody can force you to stay

sydthebeat

Quiner wrote: »

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Because is full of unfiltered bull sh1t....