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The Great Reset

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,509 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    King Mob wrote: »
    Are you claiming that the government went into this deal because they are involved in a conspiracy?
    If so, could you point out where in your links this is stated since:
    "Every word of the above paragraph is 100% factual. There's no opinion or conjecture; those are all mainstream sources."

    Also by the same token, could you point out where in your links it refers to anyone as a "deepstater".

    Yeah he's taking unconnected events and coming to the conclusion because X is true therefor Y is true. Well, by that I mean someone else has come to that conclusion and he is parroting it.

    Like he hasn't even put forward a decent theory, just linkdumped and then made a hyperbolic claim -

    "There you have it in plain sight-the Irish government is signing a deal to keep people under armed guard with a deep stater who paid vast sums to the man who ran an elite paedophile and human trafficking ring."

    Lets look at it

    There you have it in plain - no, we have conjecture in plain sight.

    the Irish government is signing a deal - is this relevant, of course a contract is needed for this

    to keep people under armed guard - yeah, so? They choose this, its on them.

    with a deep stater - this is a conspiracy theory, you cant just reference a debunked conspiracy theory to "prove" your own conspiracy theory.

    who paid vast sums to the man - he paid for tax services

    who ran an elite paedophile and human trafficking ring - whats this got to do with anything?


    So your theory is that because Leon Black had a personal and business relationship with Epstein then the Irish government is somehow caught up in this? Thats one of the dumbest things we've seen on this thread, and we had lads who believe in 5g tracking nanobots and magic sky fairies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭King Mob



    Like he hasn't even put forward a decent theory, just linkdumped and then made a hyperbolic claim -

    "There you have it in plain sight-the Irish government is signing a deal to keep people under armed guard with a deep stater who paid vast sums to the man who ran an elite paedophile and human trafficking ring."
    And of course, all of this apparently connects somehow to the "Great Reset", yet there's nothing at all in those links about it.

    So I don't think it's 100% factual and conjecture free at all...


  • Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭PintOfView


    Here's an interesting read from Nov 2016 (about fake news)
    https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs?t=1616244430075

    NPR tracked down the person behind a number of fake news sites.
    He initially brushed them off, but then agreed to talk to them.

    Bottom line is that it's simply a money making exercise,
    the more people that share the links, and read the stories,
    the more ads that are shown and the more money this guy makes.

    He's quoted on another site saying
    "Humor and satire, in my experience, doesn’t sell nearly as well as stories that invoke anger or fear. The only thing that sells better than sex is fear."

    The relevance to this thread should be obvious!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Apoapsis Rex


    PintOfView wrote: »
    Here's an interesting read from Nov 2016 (about fake news)
    https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs?t=1616244430075

    NPR tracked down the person behind a number of fake news sites.
    He initially brushed them off, but then agreed to talk to them.

    Bottom line is that it's simply a money making exercise,
    the more people that share the links, and read the stories,
    the more ads that are shown and the more money this guy makes.

    He's quoted on another site saying
    "Humor and satire, in my experience, doesn’t sell nearly as well as stories that invoke anger or fear. The only thing that sells better than sex is fear."

    The relevance to this thread should be obvious!!

    Are you saying the World Economic Forum are engaging in fake news?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    This forum is a joke. The usual big tech censorship and people still think it’s a “theory”. The moderation is so one sided it’s farcical. Conform or be silent. That is the mantra of our age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,630 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    pearcider wrote: »
    This forum is a joke. The usual big tech censorship and people still think it’s a “theory”. The moderation is so one sided it’s farcical. Conform or be silent. That is the mantra of our age.

    We are Borg

    Resistance is futile

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    We are Borg

    Resistance is futile

    :rolleyes:

    We have the capability of critical thinking. Resistance is still futile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,168 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    pearcider wrote: »
    This forum is a joke. The usual big tech censorship and people still think it’s a “theory”. The moderation is so one sided it’s farcical. Conform or be silent. That is the mantra of our age.

    You've expressed that you'd prefer forum where conspiracies are not questioned, basically an echo chamber. Get rid of free speech, replace it with validation and group-think. The staggering irony and hypocrisy of conspiracy theorists never fails to amaze.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You've expressed that you'd prefer forum where conspiracies are not questioned, basically an echo chamber. Get rid of free speech, replace it with validation and group-think. The staggering irony and hypocrisy of conspiracy theorists never fails to amaze.

    Only one side of the debate getting their posts constantly deleted in here by the mods and it’s not yours despite your same old style of just asking asinine questions in a condescending manner.

    Same story in the Donald Trump thread. All the pro trump supporters banned, posts deleted and all the woke spanner’s just left by themselves in an echo chamber. Big tech do the exact same thing on YouTube Facebook and Twitter. Delete delete delete. But there’s no conspiracy haha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 BigAndy21


    If this was a real pandemic I think the governments would be calming the populations as much as possible to avoid panic etc. Like it would not be in the news so not to cause mayhem.
    The vaccine wasn't created to "save us" from pandemic. The plandemic was created so we would take the vaccine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    BigAndy21 wrote: »
    If this was a real pandemic I think the governments would be calming the populations as much as possible to avoid panic etc. Like it would not be in the news so not to cause mayhem.
    The vaccine wasn't created to "save us" from pandemic. The plandemic was created so we would take the vaccine
    Ok. Why do they want us to take the vaccine?
    How did they get all of the world's governments to agree to this?
    pearcider wrote: »
    Only one side of the debate getting their posts constantly deleted in here by the mods and it’s not yours despite your same old style of just asking asinine questions in a condescending manner.
    .
    Only one side of the debate is throwing around insults and personal attacks because they are upset their beliefs are being questioned and shown to be a bit ridiculous.

    I've never actually seen many conspiracy theorists interact with each other about their conflicting theories, even in instances like the above where one conspiracy theorist is proposing something too ridiculous for another conspiracy theorist.
    Do you believe in Bigandy's claims?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    BigAndy21 wrote: »
    If this was a real pandemic I think the governments would be calming the populations as much as possible to avoid panic etc. Like it would not be in the news so not to cause mayhem.
    The vaccine wasn't created to "save us" from pandemic. The plandemic was created so we would take the vaccine

    So you think that the best way to prevent the spread of a highly contagious virus which kills significant proportion of the population would be to not tell anyone about it? How would that work with getting people to social distance, wear masks, work from home etc if nobody knows anything is happening?

    And if your alternative conspiracy that it's all in order to get us to take some vaccines is accurate, how did the vaccine makers who hadn't yet invented the vaccines, manage to pursuade all world governments to shut down their economy and ban international travel for a couple of years, whilst killing off masses of their populations? And which of the multiple vaccine companies that is behind this? Are all of them behind it with the vaccines created in the USA, UK, EU, Russia and China? Which of those vaccines are the ones with Bill Gates micro chips in them, and how come the other vaccines are allowed to be used if they don't have the chips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    robinph wrote: »
    So you think that the best way to prevent the spread of a highly contagious virus which kills significant proportion of the population would be to not tell anyone about it? How would that work with getting people to social distance, wear masks, work from home etc if nobody knows anything is happening?
    If this happened, we'd be seeing conspiracy theorists claiming that they are trying to kill us all with this super deadly virus that kills 1% of the world's population, and is specifically targeting the elderly and sick. We'd also be hearing questions about why the government isn't recommending measures to combat this virus, like forcing people to wear masks, stop travel etc.
    We'd be seeing theorists wondering why there wasn't a vaccine yet since it's so easy to produce flu vaccines every year and that this must mean the government aren't planning on releasing it so the virus could kill more people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 BigAndy21


    The most amazing thing about all this total insanity is, Spanish Flu killed 50 million on a Conservative estimate. 210 million would need to die to match that now. It started in 1918 and basically ended in the summer of 1919. Since then there have been other virus problems since then, none have lasted forever and we do develop immunity to them. So I just understand why all the so called experts think COVID 19 will last forever. Also all the over previous pandemics of this nature did not disappear through a VACCINE.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 BigAndy21


    “The world is engaged in the largest clinical trial, the largest global vaccination trial ever.” Greg Hunt, Australian Federal Health Minister, February 2021

    China social credit system, Vaccine Certificates/Passports HERE WE COME! WOOOOOOOOOOO


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 BigAndy21


    OOHHH OHHH! CONSPIRACY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    BigAndy21 wrote: »
    The most amazing thing about all this total insanity is, Spanish Flu killed 50 million on a Conservative estimate. 210 million would need to die to match that now. It started in 1918 and basically ended in the summer of 1919. Since then there have been other virus problems since then, none have lasted forever and we do develop immunity to them. So I just understand why all the so called experts think COVID 19 will last forever. Also all the over previous pandemics of this nature did not disappear through a VACCINE.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
    In contrast, a 2007 analysis of medical journals from the period of the pandemic found that the viral infection was no more aggressive than previous influenza strains.[9][10] Instead, malnourishment, overcrowded medical camps and hospitals, and poor hygiene, all exacerbated by the recent war, promoted bacterial superinfection.

    Maybe you don't understand it because you've made no effort to try to understand it because you prefer the idea of a conspiracy theory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭ASOT


    You do realize hygiene standards and medicine in general are night and day to what they were back in 1918 right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    pearcider wrote: »
    Only one side of the debate getting their posts constantly deleted in here by the mods and it’s not yours despite your same old style of just asking asinine questions in a condescending manner.

    Same story in the Donald Trump thread. All the pro trump supporters banned, posts deleted and all the woke spanner’s just left by themselves in an echo chamber. Big tech do the exact same thing on YouTube Facebook and Twitter. Delete delete delete. But there’s no conspiracy haha.

    Shur leave them at it in their box so instead of ranting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 BigAndy21


    "We are protecting your health" Oh lets cancel sports, gyms etc

    "Open the off license, get your Dominoes pizza stay home and eat cake" Take your chemicals in your arm, wear your muzzle" We love you.

    "Let granny die alone, we are protecting her"
    "Killing Babies, healthcare"
    "Turning off the economy, shutting down your business" Protecting you!

    OHHH SO much protection. Oh your a racist conspiracy racist that doesnt believe??? Oh how could you kill grannny


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    BigAndy21 wrote: »
    If this was a real pandemic I think the governments would be calming the populations as much as possible to avoid panic etc. Like it would not be in the news so not to cause mayhem.
    The vaccine wasn't created to "save us" from pandemic. The plandemic was created so we would take the vaccine

    LOL, Jesus Christ and Joseph Stalin!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    BigAndy21 wrote: »
    "We are protecting your health" Oh lets cancel sports, gyms etc

    "Open the off license, get your Dominoes pizza stay home and eat cake" Take your chemicals in your arm, wear your muzzle" We love you.

    "Let granny die alone, we are protecting her"
    "Killing Babies, healthcare"
    "Turning off the economy, shutting down your business" Protecting you!

    OHHH SO much protection. Oh your a racist conspiracy racist that doesnt believe??? Oh how could you kill grannny

    LOL, Jesus Christ and Joseph Stalin!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    BigAndy21 wrote: »

    OHHH SO much protection. Oh your a racist conspiracy racist that doesnt believe??? Oh how could you kill grannny
    Hi, people have asked you several questions and brought up several points to you.
    Are you going to address them?

    Continuing odd rants like this isn't going to help your credibility or the credibility of other conspiracy theorists who are trying to argue that you guys have more of a point than odd, ill-informed ranting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭PintOfView


    Are you saying the World Economic Forum are engaging in fake news?

    Everything the World Economic Forum says is on their web site. A lot of it makes perfect sense, and some not so much. Either way it's all there, out in the open.

    Where the fake news comes in is the interpretation of WEF you read on fringe web sites,
    where they take some of the WEF stuff out of context, add in some other conspiracy stuff, and draw some pretty far out conclusions


  • Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭PintOfView


    pearcider wrote: »
    This forum is a joke. The usual big tech censorship and people still think it’s a “theory”. The moderation is so one sided it’s farcical. Conform or be silent. That is the mantra of our age.

    Firstly, I don't see you addressing direct questions put to you!
    Does that mean that you don't have answers to those questions?

    Going off at tangents and making wild and vague statements is not really adding much to the discussion, is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭PintOfView


    BigAndy21 wrote: »
    If this was a real pandemic I think the governments would be calming the populations as much as possible to avoid panic etc. Like it would not be in the news so not to cause mayhem.
    The vaccine wasn't created to "save us" from pandemic. The plandemic was created so we would take the vaccine

    For your sake I hope you're just young and foolish, so if you get covid you have a good chance of being perfectly fine.

    The only trouble is that you may be helping spread it to people who may not be so lucky.

    Do you read or listen to the news at all?
    Do you know what is happening in Brazil, for eg?
    Or in parts of Europe?

    If you rely on sites that include a good sprinkling of fake news you will inevitably be wrong in some of your thinking (perhaps a lot of your thinking).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,168 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    pearcider wrote: »
    Only one side of the debate getting their posts constantly deleted in here by the mods and it’s not yours despite your same old style of just asking asinine questions in a condescending manner.

    Same story in the Donald Trump thread. All the pro trump supporters banned, posts deleted and all the woke spanner’s just left by themselves in an echo chamber. Big tech do the exact same thing on YouTube Facebook and Twitter. Delete delete delete. But there’s no conspiracy haha.

    These may be hints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    pearcider wrote: »
    Only one side of the debate getting their posts constantly deleted in here by the mods and it’s not yours despite your same old style of just asking asinine questions in a condescending manner.

    Same story in the Donald Trump thread. All the pro trump supporters banned, posts deleted and all the woke spanner’s just left by themselves in an echo chamber. Big tech do the exact same thing on YouTube Facebook and Twitter. Delete delete delete. But there’s no conspiracy haha.


    Mod -
    If you have a problem with moderation, our inboxes are always open.

    FWIW there has been as many mod actions on conspiracy deniers.

    As others have said, no forum wants to be an echo chamber.


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭NovemberWren


    There is some brand new magazine being sold here now, 'The Pulse'. The cover is 'photos of Joe Duffy, Roy Keane, Daniel O'Donnell, Colin Farrell, .....
    The caption is: "A special tribute to Nurses and all the Covid heroes whose sacrifice we applaud".
    'Ya couldn't make it up!

    A year of the Hospitals being basically empty - yet the spin now is that the Nurses are the Saviours of the Nation.

    When, actually, it is the ordinary people who have borne this 'pandemic'.

    btw - the public sector in February, have been given a 3% pay-rise (over 3 years), that SIPTU are absolutely delighted with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭arccosh



    btw - the public sector in February, have been given a 3% pay-rise (over 3 years), that SIPTU are absolutely delighted with.

    wouldn't this go against all the arguments in this thread pertaining to a Great Reset


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