Conor McGregor Arrested for Sexual Assault

lawrencesummers

lawrencesummers wrote: »

If you know so much about that alleged incident then explain how it was so incredibly hard on the alleged victim that she allegedly stopped cooperating with the police that were investigating it. Supposedly she took the money over justice, and over getting him convicted of a serious crime that would have served as a warning to every other person.

Would you care about money if you suffered an attack like that?

I know I would want justice.

Psychiatric Patrick

Deleted User wrote: »

Would you care about money if you suffered an attack like that?

I know I would want justice.

Unless you have experienced the attack and the aftermath of it you will never how you fell.

Plus people react differently. Yes, the woman should have pursued justice but you don't know whatshername was going through.

Psychiatric Patrick

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I’m not a huge fan of Kavanagh but he seems to always support him, and has so again this time since whatever happened last week. And in addition to the gym morons who are part of his posse, he also has doctors, nutritionists, fitness specialists and pr people that go everywhere with him. There is a lot of smart people there, and Conor is pretty smart too. I find it bizarre, someone who used his charisma, wit, personality, hard work, determination and dedication to get to the top. Then to just seem to be happy that the money was still coming in and not too bothered to keep achieving, and even worse to let his persona go to the gutter.

Smart/intelligent people are not immune from stupidity/wickedness.

Donald Trump

lawrencesummers wrote: »

If you know so much about that alleged incident then explain how it was so incredibly hard on the alleged victim that she allegedly stopped cooperating with the police that were investigating it. Supposedly she took the money over justice, and over getting him convicted of a serious crime that would have served as a warning to every other person.

People have friends. Some people have nice friends and some people have dangerous friends.


If you lived in the same area as dangerous friends of an individual, you might be a little reluctant to cause trouble for that person.



Your choice might be to take a few quid and shut up or to proceed and put yourself and your family at genuine risk. Or at the very least to be looking over your shoulder for a long time to come.

Donald Trump

Donald Trump wrote: »

People have friends. Some people have nice friends and some people have dangerous friends.


If you lived in the same area as dangerous friends of an individual, you might be a little reluctant to cause trouble for that person.



Your choice might be to take a few quid and shut up or to proceed and put yourself and your family at genuine risk. Or at the very least to be looking over your shoulder for a long time to come.

As in Vladimir?

Psychiatric Patrick

Johnny BGood wrote: »

It’s incredible how many gullible people there are on this thread in regards to the “Irish sports star”, the man is an ego maniac predator.
I could tell you tons of stories about his predatory nature towards women.
Anytime he’s in the news for the right/wrong reasons I always think about his victims and what they have gone through, particularly the person who was involved in the hotel “incident”.
If people knew what happened that night, his pubs, properties, gym and ****e whiskey would cease to exist.
The details are so horrific that the average ordinary joe soaps on the boards threads would says its not believable, but it is and he’s got away scot free.
Their is a general sense among people, particularly in MMA circles around the world and in this country that everyone is out get this man.
All of the trouble that he’s been involved in is down to himself.
This is not the first time he has been implicated in this particular crime, yes he has never been convicted of such a crime but neither has DK in his area of expertise.
Money talks....

Who is DK ?

Sweet.Science

He still updates his status on facebook ?

Lock him up

not yet

Deleted User wrote: »

This has all the hallmarks of someone about to be charged with a crime- his bravado a last ditch attempt to influence public opinion

The telling part of that FB rant is 'god bless DNA' if he honestly believes he has good DNA then he is more deluded then I thought.

Psychiatric Patrick

The latest arrest is about "allegedly" exposing him himself to a young woman and the police performed "key physical tests".

How can you have a physical test for that?

not yet

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

The latest arrest is about "allegedly" exposing him himself to a young woman and the police performed "key physical tests".

How can you have a physical test for that?

Check if his mickey got any sun recently.

breezy1985

If he was English it would be a national pastime in Ireland to call him a horrible c*** and there isn't a man in the country wouldn't think he was worse than Cromwell.

Absolute double standards to back this fool just cause he is Irish

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

breezy1985 wrote: »

If he was English it would be a national pastime in Ireland to call him a horrible c*** and there isn't a man in the country wouldn't think he was worse than Cromwell.

Absolute double standards to back this fool just cause he is Irish

I look at it this way. He’s not a pleasant individual. He’s a phenomenal athlete and it’s hard watch him fight and not want him to win. I am definitely not a fan of his outside the ring though.

As a rich and famous sports star he’s going to attract a lot of false allegations. This may well be another one. It might also be true. Who knows, but you’ve got to assume he’s innocent until proven guilty. That’s generally how it goes.

If he’s guilty of this, sure throw the book at him but wait and see. People are too quick to jump on the outrage wagon.

ElBastardo1

bobbyy gee wrote: »

he says he will not pay
https://www.tmz.com/2020/09/15/conor-mcgregor-facebook-corsica-accuser-allegations-ireland-ufc/

Whats weird is, he claims CCTV will set him free? He makes himself out to be one of the 'Birmingham 6'. Does he forget the CCTV showed him punch a man in the back of the head, throw a hand truck through a window and then take a mans phone off him and smash it on the ground. If there wasn't CCTV of these incidents he'd claim they were made up. Lets face it, he's an absolute toe rag, he's 30 and all the money in the world hasn't made him something he's not. If he didn't become a MMA star, he'd be dealing 50 bags in the local pub. Nothing likable about him, look at his cretin friends.

Psychiatric Patrick

breezy1985 wrote: »

If he was English it would be a national pastime in Ireland to call him a horrible c*** and there isn't a man in the country wouldn't think he was worse than Cromwell.

Absolute double standards to back this fool just cause he is Irish

I don't follow any sports but there are names you can't help but know associated with the GAA, football, boxing, etc. Even American sports. I was aware of Gina Carano and others even before a move to movies.

Any time I've heard about McGregor it is because he is in trouble. Never seen him on the news for MMA - only about being a knacker.

Was he always a knacker or did the fame corrupt him?

Psychiatric Patrick

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

Whats weird is, he claims CCTV will set him free? He makes himself out to be one of the 'Birmingham 6'. Does he forget the CCTV showed him punch a man in the back of the head, throw a hand truck through a window and then take a mans phone off him and smash it on the ground. If there wasn't CCTV of these incidents he'd claim they were made up. Lets face it, he's an absolute toe rag, he's 30 and all the money in the world hasn't made him something he's not. If he didn't become a MMA star, he'd be dealing 50 bags in the local pub. Nothing likable about him, look at his cretin friends.

He is a parvenu.

I never thought I'd get to use that word in my lifetime and I wish it was in a face to face but there we go.

Donald Trump

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

Whats weird is, he claims CCTV will set him free? He makes himself out to be one of the 'Birmingham 6'. Does he forget the CCTV showed him punch a man in the back of the head, throw a hand truck through a window and then take a mans phone off him and smash it on the ground. If there wasn't CCTV of these incidents he'd claim they were made up. Lets face it, he's an absolute toe rag, he's 30 and all the money in the world hasn't made him something he's not. If he didn't become a MMA star, he'd be dealing 50 bags in the local pub. Nothing likable about him, look at his cretin friends.

If a man has money. He can potentially pay off most accusers/witnesses. Have them sign NDAs.


So, if he starts off by claiming that CCTV will set him free, and then later you find that charges are not pursued, then he can plausibly try to imply that the CCTV exonerated him. There will be nobody to contradict that idea.


That in no way shape or form is saying that the accusers/witnesses deliberately made their reports for the money.

Donald Trump

Donald Trump wrote: »

If a man has money. He can potentially pay off most accusers/witnesses. Have them sign NDAs.


So, if he starts off by claiming that CCTV will set him free, and then later you find that charges are not pursued, then he can plausibly try to imply that the CCTV exonerated him. There will be nobody to contradict that idea.


That in no way shape or form is saying that the accusers/witnesses deliberately made their reports for the money.

Sounds like the Harvey Weinstein of the octagon

lawrencesummers

lawrencesummers wrote: »

If you know so much about that alleged incident then explain how it was so incredibly hard on the alleged victim that she allegedly stopped cooperating with the police that were investigating it. Supposedly she took the money over justice, and over getting him convicted of a serious crime that would have served as a warning to every other person.

Because dangerous people, because hard core fans, because she would become known, because the witnesses are his mates, because she wants to forget, because the trauma of a trial is hard on victims, because sides rates in rape cases are very low.

Enough or need more?

The mistake this time is location. He's not in crumlin with his mates and a few local girls. His victim probable knows people, has money and doesn't give a **** who he is

Hunky Monster

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I look at it this way. He’s not a pleasant individual. He’s a phenomenal athlete and it’s hard watch him fight and not want him to win. I am definitely not a fan of his outside the ring though.

As a rich and famous sports star he’s going to attract a lot of false allegations. This may well be another one. It might also be true. Who knows, but you’ve got to assume he’s innocent until proven guilty. That’s generally how it goes.

If he’s guilty of this, sure throw the book at him but wait and see. People are too quick to jump on the outrage wagon.

Can't think of any other sports star in the world ever that was arrested and questioned for 3 separate sexual assault claims, particularly over a such a short period as a couple of years.

Can you?

glasso

glasso wrote: »

Can't think of any other sports star in the world ever that was arrested and questioned for 3 separate sexual assault claims, particularly over a such a short period as a couple of years.

Can you?

Too be fair, when yo allow women to picture you with your hand between their legs and kissing then, your leaving yourself pretty wide open

Niner leprauchan

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Too be fair, when yo allow women to picture you with your hand between their legs and kissing then, your leaving yourself pretty wide open

"look he shagged some slapper over in Liverpool and here's a photo of his hand up her skirt, lets go to the police and accuse him of rape or other sexual assault"

really makes sense yeah - not.

breezy1985

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I look at it this way. He’s not a pleasant individual. He’s a phenomenal athlete and it’s hard watch him fight and not want him to win. I am definitely not a fan of his outside the ring though.

As a rich and famous sports star he’s going to attract a lot of false allegations. This may well be another one. It might also be true. Who knows, but you’ve got to assume he’s innocent until proven guilty. That’s generally how it goes.

If he’s guilty of this, sure throw the book at him but wait and see. People are too quick to jump on the outrage wagon.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Well he has 19 previous convictions all of which he has been proven guilty for

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/conor-mcgregor-fined-1-000-for-assaulting-man-in-dublin-pub-1.4069080?mode=amp

JJayoo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would you care about money if you suffered an attack like that?

I know I would want justice.

If the incident did happen I could imagine trying to convict one of the kinighan's best buddies, while hearing about them murdering members of another big drug family, might be a bit intimadating.

Dublin is a small place, her family would be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives...if it did happen that is

reg114

He's exceptionally lucky the offence is alleged to have happened on French soil and not Italian, where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent which means he would have been held in custody while his defence team prepare his case. The Italian legal system works shockingly slowly, he could have been held inside for a couple of years before any trial even commenced.

Psychiatric Patrick

reg114 wrote: »

He's exceptionally lucky the offence is alleged to have happened on French soil and not Italian, where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent which means he would have been held in custody while his defence team prepare his case. The Italian legal system works shockingly slowly, he could have been held inside for a couple of years before any trial even commenced.

I did not know that about Italy.

Gregor Samsa

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

I did not know that about Italy.

It's not true. Italy has the presumption of innocence like most western countries, and while a judge can direct that some "precautionary measures" be taken before conviction to prevent fleeing, other offences, etc, that doesn't mean automatic detention, and could be signing on to a police station or surrendering a passport - just like here. They do have a very slow system, though, involving different judges at different stages of the investigation and trial.

JJayoo

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

I did not know that about Italy.

Ya Berlusconi really ran a tight ship, his legacy lives on...

reg114

reg114 wrote: »

He's exceptionally lucky the offence is alleged to have happened on French soil and not Italian, where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent which means he would have been held in custody while his defence team prepare his case. The Italian legal system works shockingly slowly, he could have been held inside for a couple of years before any trial even commenced.

Corsica is French not Italian France has a “prove your innocence “ approach to justice

Gregor Samsa

JJayoo wrote: »

Ya Berlusconi really ran a tight ship, his legacy lives on...

Such a tight ship that he was on trial over 20 times himself, in six of those cases, his parliament politically interfered in the process and passed laws during the trial that altered the verdict to "no conviction".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_and_allegations_involving_Silvio_Berlusconi

And he wasn't held in detention as "guilty until proven innocent", because that's not a thing there at all. Not that it's even of any relevance to McGregor's case.

reg114

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

It's not true. Italy has the presumption of innocence like most western countries, and while a judge can direct that some "precautionary measures" be taken before conviction to prevent fleeing, other offences, etc, that doesn't mean automatic detention, and could be signing on to a police station or surrendering a passport - just like here. They do have a very slow system, though, involving different judges at different stages of the investigation and trial.

In theory this is correct but in practice the Italian legal system very much places the burden on the accused to prove their innocence as was seen in the Amanda Knox murder trial a decade ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/04/knox-acquittal-only-possible-verdict