Tour de France 2020 | Stage 16 (La Tour-du-Pin - Villard-de-Lans, 164 km)

lawrencesummers

This pace is gonna put a few people into the broom bus

Dodge

lawrencesummers wrote: »

This pace is gonna put a few people into the broom bus

Once the sprint is over the big lads will sit up

Dodge

About 5k to the sprint. Looks like the break will take all the points. Trentin is in the break

Keeks

this will play into Sam favour for the next 4 stages as every tea will be trying to get a man in the break.....so we wil see large breakaways hoovering up the intermediate sprint points....
All Sam needs to do is sit on Sagan wheels until the Intermediate sprint point....and then stay ahead of the broom wagon

Bora and DQS will surely want to keep Trentin from getting to many points here I think.

neris

lawrencesummers wrote: »

This pace is gonna put a few people into the broom bus

Caleb Ewan outs the back already

Dodge

Trentin got the 20. All the rest of the points don’t matter. Bora challenged Trentin

Think Sam will be happy enough with that

dastardly00

Trentin takes the 20 points

Updated leaderboard
Sam 269
Sagan 224
Trentin 209

Tim76

dastardly00 wrote: »

Trentin takes the 20 points

Updated leaderboard
Sam 269
Sagan 224
Trentin 209

Trentin creeping up

Keeks

Interesting stage....Looks like Sunweb backing Roche today....

redlead

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Hes doing a man marking job on Sagan that Pádraic Maher would be proud of.

As long as it doesn't turn into a Lar marking Tommy Walsh horror show :-P

Dodge

Keeks wrote: »

Interesting stage....Looks like Sunweb backing Roche today....

3 sunweb now in the break

MPFGLB

Looks like Nico is riding for Benoot if you ask me ....
But on a break one has to see how they feel towards the end


Alaphilippe & Carpaz are very fast so would have to be favourites

donfers

That's the end of Trentin's leeway, can't allow him in an early breakaway anymore to snatch up points

dastardly00

Tim76 wrote: »

Trentin creeping up

Tomorrow (Stage 17) should favour Sam. It's flat up to the intermediate sprint so he could gain some points on Sagan & Trentin. Then there are two high mountains so none of them will get any points.

Stage 18 has a false flat from the start until the intermediate sprint (160 metre elevation gain over 13 km). So Sam shouldn't have any trouble hanging on with Sagan & Trentin. More than likely a breakaway will take all the points. Then there are high mountains again so none of them will get any points.

Stage 19 is the big danger for Sam. A lot of lumps that are not categorised. If Bora drill it, Sam would get dropped and Sagan could contest both the intermediate sprint and the finish.

Stage 20 is the ITT

Stage 21 in Paris - advantage Sam.

neris

dastardly00 wrote: »

Tomorrow (Stage 17) should favour Sam. It's flat up to the intermediate sprint so he could gain some points on Sagan & Trentin. Then there are two high mountains so none of them will get any points.

Stage 18 has a false flat from the start until the intermediate sprint (160 metre elevation gain over 13 km). So Sam shouldn't have any trouble hanging on with Sagan & Trentin. More than likely a breakaway will take all the points. Then there are high mountains again so none of them will get any points.

Stage 19 is the big danger for Sam. A lot of lumps that are not categorised. If Bora drill it, Sam would get dropped and Sagan could contest both the intermediate sprint and the finish.

Stage 20 is the ITT

Stage 21 in Paris - advantage Sam.

Be great to see him win in green on the Champs especially if Sagan is 2nd across the line

lawrencesummers

neris wrote: »

Be great to see him win in green on the Champs especially if Sagan is 2nd across the line

Caleb is the big problem there, he seems to have Sams number while Sam has Sagans.

Me thinks the green jersey will come down to a photo in Paris!!

happytramp

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Caleb is the big problem there, he seems to have Sams number while Sam has Sagans!

Especially since Sam's team seem unwilling to do anything to keep him off Sam's wheel.

Macy0161

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Caleb is the big problem there, he seems to have Sams number while Sam has Sagans.

Me thinks the green jersey will come down to a photo in Paris!!

I know he's had less incentive to hang in, but Caleb has been out the back a good bit earlier than Sam.

Stage 19 the big one, but whether Bora are still in a position to drill it from the off, and whether the rest of the peloton are prepared to let them at that stage of the race. I'd imagine most teams would want a big breakaway and an easy day.

neris

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Caleb is the big problem there, he seems to have Sams number while Sam has Sagans.

Me thinks the green jersey will come down to a photo in Paris!!

hopefully with all the hills Caleb will be so far out the back hes in the broom wagon

retalivity

Wiggins on Eurosport talking about how its important to have a 'likeable leader' :pac:

To be fair to him, he is less prattish talking to carlton and sea than he seems in his wiggins report

Steve SilverMint

neris wrote: »

hopefully with all the hills Caleb will be so far out the back hes in the broom wagon

Ewan has rode 5 Grand Tours and DNF 4 of them. The only one he finished was TDF last year.

CrowdedHouse

Trentin still up there...a few more points at the finish?

mcgratheoin

Steve SilverMint wrote: »

Ewan has rode 5 Grand Tours and DNF 4 of them. The only one he finished was TDF last year.

He said he was targeting the Champs Elysée this year though - obviously trying to save as much energy as he can every day.

Trentin creeping up as a danger as well alright - but let's not forget that there is a maximum of 180 points available for sprinters. 4 intermediates and 2 flat finishes - the chances of anyone hoovering up all of those is pretty low so I think if Sam can pull in another 60 points or so he should be ok.

The big danger is definitely Stage 19 - it looks like it'll be a massive challenge - very lumpy stage - one categorised climb but the intermediate sprint seems to be at the top of an uncategorised climb as well and is 117km into a 165km stage! They'll have to be really on it - I suspect that CCC will put men on the front as well, Trentin seems well able to get over the lumpy stuff and I'm not sure who else would ride with DQT if they got distanced.

dastardly00

retalivity wrote: »

Wiggins on Eurosport talking about how its important to have a 'likeable leader' :pac:

To be fair to him, he is less prattish talking to carlton and sea than he seems in his wiggins report

Carlton had a good dig at him by saying that the 2012 TdF parcours was designed to allow Wiggins to win

mcgratheoin

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Trentin still up there...a few more points at the finish?

No chance he's getting over the 1st category with the breakaway.
Mountain finish points only equivalent to an intermediate sprint anyway

retalivity

Richard Carapaz, favourite son of Paraguay

letape

retalivity wrote: »

Richard Carapaz, favourite son of Paraguay

https://youtu.be/9cQlVww0zKo

lissard

Orwell and Sorento get a mention! Chris Juul Jenson and Nico in the break.

Bernal down the back with Sam