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Ted Lasso [Apple]

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,379 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    And everything is wrapped up in a nice neat little bow. In typical lasso style it was all too sweet almost too perfect.

    Definitely last episode there won’t be another season from how they wrapped it up anyway.

    It’s funny for a show called Ted Lasso the last season couldn’t have been less about him. It truly was all about Richmond FC. I’ll miss the side characters more and I still feel they did Nate dirty but not showing him standing up to Rupert.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    A great end to the series.

    I thought they had messed it up by not having a big moment between Ted and Nathan in the first few minutes but the small moment with very little dialogue was perfect.

    I half expected Ted’s ex and son to move to the U.K. and he continues on as coach but happily I’m not a writer.

    This has to be one of the positive and uplifting shows ever and it never got cheesy or wishy washy. It even made me feel a tiny amount of sympathy for Rupert the **** weasel.

    I saw in the closing credits that Keeley Hazel was staff writer. So did she had more input then just the video leak episode?

    Charlotte Spencer and the muscled boyfriend were an odd cameo at the wedding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Were they the ones from Beard's episode last season where he goes on the night out? I had to rewind it twice to try figure out who they were and that's all I could guess.

    An okay finale. It accomplished what it needed to with some terrific scenes, but it was so built on shaky ground from the rest of the season that it didn't have the impact it could have. Splitting up Keeley and Roy, then throwing in that Jamie still wanted her back after Jamie and Roy became close friends (even though Jamie didn't seemed bothered after he and Keeley split up or throughout Season 2)... it served no purpose in the end. Rebecca ending up with the pilot she met once in Holland... why not Sam? Or something interesting? Just tacked on even though it didn't add to or evolve Rebecca's character in any way. And it was set up so perfectly for Nate to be the one to jump in and be the one to shame Rupert and make him leave after he attacked the other coach, but they just had shots of him adjusting water bottles as Rupert walked past. Trent's book also just became a case of... he released the book, it was less about Ted and more about the team, and it was fine.

    Glad it's over. It had its moments but ran out of road. They released the season, it was less about Ted and more about the team, and it was fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,961 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,457 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    That's that for the series I suppose

    Few minor annoyincies You'd think the 'mega fans' who are always in the pub would go to an actual match and the way Nate exited West Ham without even a scene showing it and how a manager who was going so well is now only a kit man again at a different club

    You could see the 2nd half comeback coming a mile off and definitely a bit of an unrealistic outcome of a penalty. From a series finale point it was very good and wrapped things up well (not Six Feet Under levels of wrapping up). A bit confused about the very last shot of Ted

    An innocent enough series what had a few cringe moments but done its job

    As much as a 'Roy Kent Manager' spin off has potential I just can't see it happening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭squonk


    Did what it needed. Again I ended up wondering had I missed something from last episode now Ted was definitely leaving. I know that was the direction of travel but they just slipped some bits. Felt underwhelming abd a bit meh if I’m honest. Jamie & Keeley cafe a bit too sudden. I thought Nate was going to come up with sobering as a last minute play during the game but, no, Ted was using him as a prop sbd he’s back to being a minion again now. I really thought he’d be the new manager or at least an assistant role. Not sorry after it if I’m honest. They had some great characters and some good plots but they bungled any potential in the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭squonk


    Funny the mega fans not being at the game crossed my mind too, as well as the lady running the pub. Being less charitable I actually thought they seemed like perennial losers. Stuck in a boozer for every match, not once going to an actual live game even though they are on some personal terms with the coach.

    BTW I’ve a feeling there’sa Roy Kent shoe coming. It’s Apple’s biggest hit so I can’t see them letting it die that easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    AFC Richmond Women as likely as a Roy Kent spin-off. Reckon Brett has said goodbye to the character if I'm honest.

    Solid enough finale, after a terrible season this year.

    Happy enough to see it finish if I'm honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Yes, that was them. The big guy was the red head’s jealous boyfriend but I think he ended up saving Beard from Jamie’s father.

    I wasn’t so much odd that they were at the wedding - what was odd that they were the last shot of the show in the U.K. before the last few minutes follows Ted back in Kansas.

    The season was definitely not as good as the previous two - they had Nate at West Ham for too long, and then rushed the team forgiving him and asking him to come back - plus the reveal of the rest of CCTV footage should have been revealed to the audience in the first couple of episodes because he went from seeming very nasty in the final minutes to back to more like himself which made no sense unless you see the footage.

    I didn’t understand how the sideline charades told the team what strategy to use in the final minutes of the game. I understood the strategy - just not how the actions were relevant.

    However, it was great final episode. It wrapped everything up. I have no interest in a sequel series or spin off though. If Apple want more like this then maybe a new project from the same creatives.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭squonk


    Actually yes, a women’s AFC Richmond shoe sounds just like what Apple would try. Not knocking women’s sport but more Apple when I say that what ruined much of the early Apple shows for me was that there was some message about equality and accepting everything shoehorned into shows or situations where it didn’t belong. It ruined some otherwise good shows because they spent more effort making some statement than actually having a good story to draw viewers in. I think Ted Lasso is the show where they finally got it right, final season notwithstanding.

    That being said, I think they wrapped it up so well with a pretty bow this time I don’t want to go back.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    There are certainly issues with the finale, and it's about as sentimental and sappy an ending as they come (I love Father & Son, but c'mon: it's basically a cheat code for this kind of thing). But it did at least come a bit closer to capturing the essence of early Ted Lasso than the rest of the series did.

    That said, it still couldn't shake off some of the weird character choices made throughout season 3. I have no idea about what the writers thought they were doing with the Roy / Keeley arc this season, as they seemed to change their mind between each of the last couple of episodes in a way that felt confused rather than organic. And, post-first season, the show really struggled to figure out how to portray characters in the gap between 'nicest person in the world' and 'horrible asshole' - perhaps best exemplified by Nate's baffling route back to an inevitable destination.

    Also, kind of felt wrong to show Beard's wedding without Ted there (at least that I could see amid the terrible CG Stonehenge)? I mean, I know he went home for good reasons... but he could come back for a few days for his bloody best friend's wedding 😂 Although the editing does sort of lazily give the show a 'this could be a dream!' get-out-of-jail-free card.

    Anyway, you could definitely see them sowing the seeds of at least a few spinoffs here - whether it's just 'The Richmond Way' with most of the ensemble back, or more specific spin-offs. Whatever happens, I think it's a show that very much ran its course... arguably even a full season ago... and I can't say the prospect of more is appealing. It was a show that had its heyday as little more than a pleasant diversion during a weird time - it struggled to maintain that when the world was back to normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,066 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Yes, definitely think this could be the spin off with cameos galore from the original series



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭ConcertKing


    Absolutely brilliant show and I loved every season!

    Absolutely loved all the characters and really hope it goes on in a spin off series!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Just to think a tv advert turned into one of the best shows around! I wonder what else you could do? A murder mystery around Where's Grandad?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    Few observations.

    1. I thought that it was the ending but then when Ted woke up on the plane I wondered could it have been interpreted as a dream sequence.
    2. I also thought that Nate should have been utilised better , either by giving some insights at half time on the West Ham team and potential weaknesses which could turn the game. Or at least playing a more intelligent part in the set piece.
    3. This could then have paved the path for Nate to get full redemption and take over as the manager post Ted.
    4. Finally I was a bit disappointed that they didn’t get the title. We all know that the show is a bit cringey/soppy, but why not have them winning the title? They did the nearly thing in the season where they very very nearly survived but ended up heartbroken with relegation.
    5. Maybe a smarter way could have been to not reveal whether Richmond had won the title or not (which I thought they were doing). It’s only disclosed in the conversation with the fan/Ed Sheeran wannabe. It would be a classic HBO ending (Soprano’s). Leave you guessing, but show that whether they did or didn’t win the title, life moved on. And everyone was essentially still happy and better for Teds impact at Richmond.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I agree about Nate. I think the plan Ted enacted and used Nate to mime was actually one of Nate's first plans from the first season (or so I read elsewhere, can't really remember), but would have liked Nate to have some agency in that scene rather than being essentially a puppet for Ted. I took the shots of Nate with Beard and Roy hanging up the Believe sign to be a sign that Nate was back on the management team rather than kit man. I kind of agree Roy was probably the better choice for overall manager though. Nate is a tactician more than anything else, but I think Roy would be the better choice for the motivation and respect of the team alongside Beard, with Nate helping with tactics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    This happened a few times in this series, wondering if I'd missed some post-credit scene, because of a jump forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭squonk


    Re Point 1, I thought there’d be bite to it too. It’s not that kind of show but when the place bumped I was hoping it was something a bit more dark like an air d regency where he figures out something about his life and completely changes or else the plane goes down and the guy who now has so much to line for and wants to get home at any cost never makes it. As was also said I think leaving the premiership title unresolved would have been good. It was kind of a Maguffin anyway and didn’t really matter. So either they win or we aren’t told.



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    Nate wanted recognition for his ideas. This one came naturally from Ted, without Nate butting in.

    He was delighted that Ted remembered the play.

    Even in that prop moment, Nate was back in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    also Nick Mohammed response to Nate's Journey in Season 3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Really enjoyed the ending.


    Only one gripe and i could see it as soon as mcadoos goal was given? Why did they go with the waiting on city's result when the long delay to repair the net meant the city game would have been well over!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah I caught that too. I presumed at the time they were doing it so the Man City game would finish first and Richmond would know the result in the last few minutes of the game, but I guess it wouldn't have made a difference considering City won anyway. Unless they were going to do something about how City won, but instead of just giving up, Richmond still pulled together to make sure they still won the match.

    That said, they'd have been better off doing the McAdoo thing in the episode where he belted the free kick or corner or whatever in training. It served very little payoff here only to confuse things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    The penalty was a bit stupid alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Season 4 or would they have to spin it off as a new series now since Ted is back in America.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    I'd say spin-off with wider scope (women's team) essentially



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Bobby_Bolivia


    I thought the finale was extremely poor and the poorness of the finale casts some previously questionable decisions in a far worse light. Overall Season 3 was really bad, especially in light of some decisions made in the finale.

    The entire KJPR storyline was a total waste of screen time, we didn't need to see Shandy or Jack, they were totally irrelevant to the overall story. Keeleys PR firm story was ultimately resolved in about 30 seconds by Rebecca going here is some money. Complete waste of time. And Zava too, the amount of important stuff we weren't shown while hours were devoted to Zava and KJPR, madness.

    When you consider what we didn't see - Nate leaving West Ham and the conversation with Rupert, Ted telling the team he is leaving. Nate rejoining the club. Any of those moments deserved proper screen time instead of what we got. Proper screen time to flesh out how characters came to decisions, and how others reacted to them. How did Nate get from being uneasy at the pub with Rupert to leaving? How did the team decide that they wanted to welcome Nate back? Ridiculous how much happened off screen.

    I thought Jamie telling Roy that Keeleys video was made for Jamie was a spectacular character regression, after a season of growth. In fact, I found it utterly bizarre that he was interested in Keeley again - the episode earlier in the season where he comforts Roy rather than pursue the potential with Keeley was telling me, he has moved on. He should have ended the series getting closer to Roys sister, it would have been far more in keeping with his development, and would have furthered the friendly banter between Roy and Jamie as Jamie would potentially be part of the family.

    Ted had very little involvement and was mostly a bystander throughout Season 3. Nate's redemption was extremely haphazard, and very, very unconvincing. I'm still not sure what the point of Rebecca and the psychic was, as the matchbook seemed to reappear a couple of times and never led anywhere.

    Everything was completely unfocused and whats more, there was some seriously cringeworthy sermons given over social issues such as that entire locker room scene over the nudes. A really poor season to finish on. Lets hope they leave it be now.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Absolutely loved the show, particularly seasons 1 & 2. The scene in the dressing room after relegation in Season 1 was perfect IMO. Season 3 frustrated me for a lot of the reasons mentioned here but I still enjoyed it.


    One thing to add, I know it's not a realistic show and the characters were caricatures to an extent, but did anyone else find Rupert overly pantomime villain towards the end. When he rushed to the touchline, long black coat looking like a cape and pushed the manager over, it was just missing the twiddly moustache and lightning and smoke. I roared laughing at it for all the wrong reasons.


    Anyway, great show. Resisted it for years and watched it all over a week and a half. Thoroughly enjoyed it despite some massive flaws.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,841 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Only a few episodes into Season 3, struggling with it if I'm honest, just don't get the Ted Lasso love, mediocre at best. Will try to push onto the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    Theres a lot of good tv out there now to be persevering with season 3 of one ya dont like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Yeah, it was a struggle.

    I wasn't hugely complimentary of season 2 on first watch but it did have it's moments on a rewatch leading up to season 3.

    But season 3 was downright dire..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,457 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Hoping to have a walk around Richmond when I'm in London next month

    Surprised Twickenham and Rugby wasn't mentioned in the series as Town/Stadium is only down the road

    Few walking tours but not exactly cheap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    I gave up after 4 episodes, kept looking here hoping it would improve.

    Might get around to watching it some day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,457 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Something that bugs me a little is the portrayal of Nate having an office in London Stadium and the team training there

    Surely is common knowledge that 100s of clubs have training facilities and would seldom do there day to day training/duties in there home Stadium



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭archfi


    Series 1 was great - the obnoxious sweetness was a plus in a weird way.

    Series 2 - warning signs abound, the only character to maintain any laughs was Roy.

    I haven't watched Series 3 and have no intention to.

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,457 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Very happy with my travels today




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 824 ✭✭✭MICKEYG


    Richmond have a training place different to their stadium.

    In a weird twist, the home dressing room for both is the same

    It's TV so some liberties are taken.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    Liberties? ha their base was AFC Richmond were a Premier League club they lived the lives of Sunday league lads

    Haven't been in Richmond in some time very swanky for the most part most of the folk there follow Brentford and I guess Chelsea.

    Think some of the stadium interior stuff in early seasons was Selhurst Park?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Was there myself on Sunday! 😁

    That pub is a bit of a shithole..




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,457 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    yeah i doubt id bother going in if it wasnt for the show tbh

    Id say the staff in there are sick of Lasso fans coming in asking questions

    Some parts of the pub are digitalized for the series for some reason

    Fuller seems to be the poser Wetherspoons, pubs managed by them all over the city



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,690 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    There's not a thing football related about Ted Lasso that is accurate.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,064 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    The real Richmond FC is a rugby team of course, that part of London’s a stones throw from Twickenham (the next stop in fact). Brentford, Fulham and indeed Chelsea isn’t too far away in football terms. But yes Selhurst Park was used as the set for the fictional Richmond’s Nelson Road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,690 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    ..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭larchielads


    Hey lads was it all a dream like the wizard of Oz movie,the book apparently wasnt. The pin ball machine was a wizard of Oz pinball game. Ted's mother, Dotty,(Dorothy). Roy Kent is the tin man as he gets a heart as he starts to love Jamie, Colin is the Lion he finally becomes brave and comes out to everyone , can't figure out if Jamie is the scare crow or not 😁😁😁Ted's from Kansas after all and there's no place like home for Ted!!!!

    Rupert's the wicked witch , dressed all in black for final episode and I reckon Rebecca was the wizard

    Oh and I'm very stupid if I've just made the wizard of Oz connection now.......ooops



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,841 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Just finished up last night, completely over rated. It's ok and completely watchable but nothing brilliant. Had go back to finish it out as I had programme sitting in my watch history that are not completed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,961 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Ted Lasso adjacent... Hannah Waddingham (Rebecca) has a Christmas concert on Apple, with cameos from some Ted Lasso cast members.

    Hannah belts out some Christmas standards, showcasing her background in stage musicals.

    Perhaps one to watch with mulled wine and mince pies as Christmas draws near.

    Oh, and the dress is so bright you gotta wear shades :)

    https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/originals/hannah-waddingham-home-for-christmas/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭squonk


    I saw a clip of that. I thought it lined like there was a Ted Lasso Christmas special but a probably wrong. Otherwise I’m looking forward to watching that show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,961 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    There is a lot of overlap and it could easily have been turned into an episode where they do a charity fundraiser.

    But it is the actors putting on a show rather than the characters, with some nods to the Ted Lasso universe.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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