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Tour de France 2020 | Stage 18 (Méribel - La Roche-sur-Foron, 175 km)

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    #92
    CowboyTed
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    The Grupetto are masters of calculation, they very very rarely fail to make the cutoff.

    There is 50 of them together... There would be exemption for them anyway... Safety in numbers...
    Sagan is 5 min ahead of them with two team mates...


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    #93
    happytramp
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    CowboyTed wrote: »
    There is 50 of them together... There would be exemption for them anyway... Safety in numbers...
    Sagan is 5 min ahead of them with two team mates...

    The problem for Sam is that he'd be penalised all his sprint points if he failed to make the cut.


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    #94
    Inquitus
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    CowboyTed wrote: »
    There is 50 of them together... There would be exemption for them anyway... Safety in numbers...
    Sagan is 5 min ahead of them with two team mates...

    Aye but you get a 20 point Green Jersey deduction if you finish outside the time limit, so not ideal for Sam.


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    #95
    donfers
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    average speed of this stage will be about 35km/h meaning cut-off time will be about 15% of total

    Let's say 5 hours = 300 minutes = cut-of time of around 45 minutes. Unless he completely blows up on the HC he should just squeeze inside that


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    #96
    Inquitus
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    Yep 45 minutes is a hell of a time on a bike!


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    #97
    retalivity
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    Landa has Caruso and Bilbao ahead of him, this could work out well


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    #98
    Mefistofelino
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    donfers wrote: »
    average speed of this stage will be about 35km/h meaning cut-off time will be about 15% of total

    Let's say 5 hours = 300 minutes = cut-of time of around 45 minutes. Unless he completely blows up on the HC he should just squeeze inside that

    For this stage, 35 kmh gives you a margin of 12% / 36 mins


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    #99
    tobefrank321
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    Strange from Poels. He could go for hours at the front when at SKY!


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    #100
    MPFGLB
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    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Strange from Poels. He could go for hours at the front when at SKY!

    Riding back from a very bad injury ..not fully there...amasing he can do anything


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    #101
    De Bhál
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    I enjoy listening to Wiggins when he talks about tactics etc.


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    #102
    CowboyTed
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Aye but you get a 20 point Green Jersey deduction if you finish outside the time limit, so not ideal for Sam.

    Agreed...

    Average speed so far is 36.3km/hr... 38.21min limit

    It could be higher...


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    #103
    retalivity
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    Ineos gonna split this - polka dots for carapaz, stage win for kwiatko


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    #104
    MPFGLB
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Ineos gonna split this - polka dots for carapaz, stage win for kwiatko

    No way ...Carapaz wants this stage


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    #105
    Dodge
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    MPFGLB wrote: »
    No way ...Carapaz wants this stage

    Deserves it too to be fair


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    #106
    MPFGLB
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    Dodge wrote: »
    Deserves it too to be fair

    So does Kwaito to be fair


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    #107
    lennymc
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    The Grupetto are masters of calculation, they very very rarely fail to make the cutoff.

    didnt cavendish fall foul of some dodgy bernie eisel calculations in a grupetto one day?

    lots of people making the calculation, so i wouldnt be worried.


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    #108
    Keeks
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Aye but you get a 20 point Green Jersey deduction if you finish outside the time limit, so not ideal for Sam.

    Is this a rule or basing on what happened to Cavenish previously.....

    I Think it is up to the race commisionarire.....and that could be anything.....
    But with a large gruppetto this close to the end of the tour they are unlikely to do anything...


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    #109
    retalivity
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    The richie porte disaster coming late this year


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    #110
    Dr. Bre
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    Porte having bad luck. This happens every year for him


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    #111
    Macy0161
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    If yesterday was vintage Landa, that's vintage Porte right there.


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    #112
    mr spuckler
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    26' 42" to Bennett's group :)


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    #113
    Dr. Bre
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    Did Yates have a mechanical? He’s behind Porte


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    #114
    Mefistofelino
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    If yesterday was vintage Landa, that's vintage Porte right there.

    Boom. And indeed, boom.


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    #115
    lennymc
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    assuming fastest projected stage time of 5hrs 7 minutes, that gives about 36:50 cut off according to http://www.velofacts.com/cx-laps/tour-de-france-2020-time-limit-calculator.html


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    #116
    [Deleted User]
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    Mas looking for work from the others here.


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    #117
    tobefrank321
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    Ineos will surely let Kwiatkowski win. Long serving team member, might never be in this position again and Carapaz already has kom in the bag.


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    #118
    MPFGLB
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    Yates was dropped


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    #119
    tobefrank321
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    If yesterday was vintage Landa, that's vintage Porte right there.

    While most things in cycling are unpredictable, some things are predictable.


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    #120
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    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Ineos will surely let Kwiatkowski win. Long serving team member, might never be in this position again and Carapaz already has kom in the bag.

    He's also out of contract this year with Ineos. If I was him and they told me to ride for Carapaz I'd be thinking long and hard about signing up for more with Ineos.


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    #121
    joujoujou
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    Kwiatkowski - stage win.

    Carapaz - polka dot jersey.

    Hirschi - red number.

    I hope. ;)


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