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quokula

CatInABox wrote: »

Most excellent, the Lucasarts remasters of Grim Fandango, Day of the Tentacle, and Full Throttle are coming to Gamepass this month.

https://twitter.com/TimOfLegend/status/1317197376587587584

Pretty sure I bought all of those over the last few years for a lower combined price than one month of Gamepass. Still, always good to see them reaching a new audience.

quokula

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Planet Coaster coming to PS4/PS5. Loved Theme Park back in the day, anyone play this on PC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkx70SWrS2c

Was a bit of a buggy mess when I got it at launch. Expect it'll run better on console but the controls will be pretty difficult on a joypad. That said, I've recently played stuff like Cities Skylines, Civ and Divinity Original Sin on console and they've all made the transition from mouse and keyboard remarkably well. Will be interested to see reviews.

Shapey Fiend

I cancelled PS Plus cos there's no way I'm finishing two games a month and I'd rather choose what I'm playing. Whole subscription model doesn't lend itself well to prestige videogames. They're a much bigger time commitment than a movie. Now if they made 2 to 5 hour long videogames I could see it being a goer. When they still had Vita games you'd a chance there'd be something quick you could play for 20 mins here and there.

RasTa

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/how-console-wars-took-a-winding-path-to-the-screen

Got this lined up for tonight's viewing.

marcbrophy

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

I cancelled PS Plus cos there's no way I'm finishing two games a month and I'd rather choose what I'm playing. Whole subscription model doesn't lend itself well to prestige videogames. They're a much bigger time commitment than a movie. Now if they made 2 to 5 hour long videogames I could see it being a goer. When they still had Vita games you'd a chance there'd be something quick you could play for 20 mins here and there.

You don't have to complete the games within the month they are available, you know? You can play them at any time, as long as you maintain an active Plus subscription.

Sorry if that's not what you meant, but that's how I read it

Shapey Fiend

I'm aware of that. I suppose I'd a year of subscription and I still hadn't played two thirds of them for more than 5 minutes. My Steam backlog doesn't build up nearly as quickly cos it's generally stuff I knew was short or I really wanted to play. I may not love Rogue Legacy 2 but I've played it for 3 hours so I can sort of say I've gotten some use out of it.

Vicxas

Seems like such an odd thing to gripe about

Markitron

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

I'm aware of that. I suppose I'd a year of subscription and I still hadn't played two thirds of them for more than 5 minutes. My Steam backlog doesn't build up nearly as quickly cos it's generally stuff I knew was short or I really wanted to play. I may not love Rogue Legacy 2 but I've played it for 3 hours so I can sort of say I've gotten some use out of it.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but are you complaining about them giving you too many games?

Robert ninja

marcbrophy wrote: »

as long as you maintain an active Plus subscription.

That's one the areas I lose interest. I don't want to pay to access the same game until the stars burn out. I can see the appeal if it's a shared/family console or something like that for the constant influx of novelty and value for ranges of tastes but subscription models in practically any medium for my situation seem like an expensive and somewhat unhealthy cycle.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Robert ninja wrote: »

That's one the areas I lose interest. I don't want to pay to access the same game until the stars burn out. I can see the appeal if it's a shared/family console or something like that for the constant influx of novelty and value for ranges of tastes but subscription models in practically any medium for my situation seem like an expensive and somewhat unhealthy cycle.

do you not use netflix, disney +, amazon prime, or sky?

Robert ninja

Nope. I have a VPN subscription and I receive prime for free but I very rarely use its video features.

Shapey Fiend

Markitron wrote: »

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but are you complaining about them giving you too many games?

Well games I'd only very passing interest in. Like let's look at what they've had this year (when I wasn't subbed) The Sims 4, Call of Duty, Farming Simulator, Star Wars Battlefront, Street Fighter V, Bioshock are all in series I've played a couple of and am not arsed with another sequel. Tomb Raider and Uncharted I'm not into. Already have PUBG, Fall Guys, Shadow of the Colossus. Sonic Forces and Goat Simulator are bad games. I'd probably try NBA2k, Vampyr, Erika, NFS and Dirt 2, Cities Skylines.

I don't really play online either so it wasn't a very hard thing to cancel is all I'm saying.

Steam has spoiled me in that I can get a lot of games I'm interested in for cheap.

Netflix & Prime aren't very comparable because you're paying for access to thousands of shows and have your pick. Plus the whole family are using them. I certainly don't watch 99.95% of what's on there but there's a steady trickle of things very catered to my tastes.

quokula

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Well games I'd only very passing interest in. Like let's look at what they've had this year (when I wasn't subbed) The Sims 4, Call of Duty, Farming Simulator, Star Wars Battlefront, Street Fighter V, Bioshock are all in series I've played a couple of and am not arsed with another sequel. Tomb Raider and Uncharted I'm not into. Already have PUBG, Fall Guys, Shadow of the Colossus. Sonic Forces and Goat Simulator are bad games. I'd probably try NBA2k, Vampyr, Erika, NFS and Dirt 2, Cities Skylines.

I don't really play online either so it wasn't a very hard thing to cancel is all I'm saying.

Steam has spoiled me in that I can get a lot of games I'm interested in for cheap.

Netflix & Prime aren't very comparable because you're paying for access to thousands of shows and have your pick. Plus the whole family are using them. I certainly don't watch 99.95% of what's on there but there's a steady trickle of things very catered to my tastes.

PS+ is for access to online multiplayer and you get some discounts and the free games for added value. If you shop around you can get a year's worth for very little, the free games aren't ones I'm interested in that often, but it's so cheap and with the other features you get I don't really think too much about it.

PSNow / GamePass are the proper subscription services. They give you a lot more content, but they're also more expensive and they suffer from what you describe - 80 or 100 games is certainly a lot more than the 2 per month you get on PS+, but they don't actually offer very many more than 2 new games each month once you've already been through the back catalog, and the reality is that most of them are things you won't be interested in playing. It's very different to something like Netflix that gives you thousands of options, with many shows you can dip in and out of much more easily.

BTW, Fall Guys launched on PS+, so you couldn't have already had it. I don't know what they were charging to non-plus subscribers, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could have got a good few months of plus for the price of that game.

Star Lord

quokula wrote: »

BTW, Fall Guys launched on PS+, so you couldn't have already had it. I don't know what they were charging to non-plus subscribers, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could have got a good few months of plus for the price of that game.

It's also on PC, so they very well could have.

EoinMcLovin

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1319720697871163392?s=19

Retr0gamer

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1319720697871163392?s=19

I watched the video and I'm.even more confused. What is it even about?

sniper_samurai

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I watched the video and I'm.even more confused. What is it even about?

Designer PlayStation crap.

Retr0gamer

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Designer PlayStation crap.

Load of ****e. Being back David lynch!

TheValeyard

who the f*ck does a software change on a Friday night! *angry noises* Damn EA

Zero-Cool

Bladerunner Enhanced Edition won't release in 2020 anymore as project has become a mess. Devs can't get access to source code, reverse engineer the code, create tool to extract assets from the original, looks like will just have to upscale the videos from the original. Not holding my breath on this one.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-22-replicating-blade-runner-why-the-adventure-game-classic-is-so-tough-to-remaster

daheadonu

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Bladerunner Enhanced Edition won't release in 2020 anymore as project has become a mess. Devs can't get access to source code, reverse engineer the code, create told to extract assets from the original, looks like will just have to upscale the videos from the original. Not holding my breath on this one.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-22-replicating-blade-runner-why-the-adventure-game-classic-is-so-tough-to-remaster

reminds me of silent hill hd collection development,is this a common thing with old games losing the source code?

CatInABox

daheadonu wrote: »

reminds me of silent hill hd collection development,is this a common thing with old games losing the source code?

Very rare these days, but there was a good few years/decades where preservation wasn't even an after thought.

You might be able to get huge hard drives for less than €100 nowadays, but storage was massively expensive, and was often on really weird proprietary disks thta might not even be read these days.

The Command and Conquer Remastered Devs have a good documentary on what they went through, including searching through offices storerooms and warehouses until they found some of the videos disks, then had to go looking for a way to just identify what type of tapes they were, before needing to get specialists in to recover the data. After all that, it was the exact same quality that they already had, so it was a bit of a fools errand.

Gaming isn't the only industry to suffer from this though. Both RTE and the BBC used to just tape over their own shows. I think there's episodes of Doctor Who that are just....gone.

johnny_ultimate

Yep, large swathes of cinema history have been lost due to insufficient archiving as well.

It’s easy to express dismay in hindsight, but a lot of these things only become treasures decades after the fact. As mentioned above, storage in generations gone was bulky and expensive, so there wasn’t the same possibility of archiving everything (and with film there was also the very real danger of fire). Equally, a lot of tv shows, games and films were deemed trivial and insignificant at the time - not seen as valuable historical records worthy of preservation. Thankfully our knowledge of these things has changed, and keeping data safe is now taken very seriously.

Some great stories to emerge though, of holy grails being found - such as the lost footage from silent movie classic Metropolis being rediscovered 80 years after the fact.

The Raging Bile Duct

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Yep, large swathes of cinema history have been lost due to insufficient archiving as well.

It’s easy to express dismay in hindsight, but a lot of these things only become treasures decades after the fact. As mentioned above, storage in generations gone was bulky and expensive, so there wasn’t the same possibility of archiving everything (and with film there was also the very real danger of fire). Equally, a lot of tv shows, games and films were deemed trivial and insignificant at the time - not seen as valuable historical records worthy of preservation. Thankfully our knowledge of these things has changed, and keeping data safe is now taken very seriously.

Some great stories to emerge though, of holy grails being found - such as the lost footage from silent movie classic Metropolis being rediscovered 80 years after the fact.

Speaking of fires, the Universal Studios fire in 2008 destroyed up to 175,000 audio master tapes that included everyone from Nirvana to Buddy Holly to 50 Cent to Louis Armstrong. They kept the extent of the damage to their archives very quiet afterwards.

daheadonu

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Some great stories to emerge though, of holy grails being found - such as the lost footage from silent movie classic Metropolis being rediscovered 80 years after the fact.

johnny_ultimate wrote:

It’s easy to express dismay in hindsight, but a lot of these things only become treasures decades after the fact. As mentioned above, storage in generations gone was bulky and expensive, so there wasn’t the same possibility of archiving everything (and with film there was also the very real danger of fire). Equally, a lot of tv shows, games and films were deemed trivial and insignificant at the time - not seen as valuable historical records worthy of preservation. Thankfully our knowledge of these things has changed, and keeping data safe is now taken very seriously.

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Yep, large swathes of cinema history have been lost due to insufficient archiving as well.

Was actually watching a video when the reviewer mentioned that event horizons lost footage was found in a salt mine in Transylvania!

Retr0gamer

daheadonu wrote: »

Was actually watching a video when the reviewer mentioned that event horizons lost footage was found in a salt mine in Transylvania!

Salt mines are actually used an awful lot for storage due to the lack.of moisture in the air and the atmosphere that isn't great for microbial growth.

Penn

Assassins Creed show coming to Netflix

https://twitter.com/NXOnNetflix/status/1321081578697621508?s=19

Zero-Cool

Penn wrote: »

Assassins Creed show coming to Netflix

https://twitter.com/NXOnNetflix/status/1321081578697621508?s=19

Multiple series including a live action one, animated and anime. Live action one currently looking for a showrunner.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/5yREt2YYOAO2W8zMmPN0s2/liveaction-assassins-creed-series-coming-to-netflix

quokula

I kind of hope this will be a Doctor Who style "jump in the animus and help out a different historical figure every week" type of format. Because historic tourism is what Assassin's Creed is good at. The actual mythology and storyline that runs through the series is dreadful and I don't think it would hold up for a tv show.

johnny_ultimate

The Netflix model: throw money at every IP possible and hope something, somewhere sticks.