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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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    #452
    caveat emptor
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    Dr Henry: “No evidence yet of sustained immunity making herd immunity Very risky.”

    Dr Nolan: “ a lot of young people will have to die to reach it”


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    #453
    Arghus
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    Glad they are calling out the complete ludicrousness of this idea.


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    #454
    JP Liz V1
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    "Most cases remain close contacts of confirmed cases"

    That's good yes, so community transmission low?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #455
    Drumpot
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Dr Henry: “No evidence yet of sustained immunity making herd immunity Very risky.”

    Dr Nolan: “ a lot of young people will have to die to reach it”
    Arghus wrote: »
    Glad they are calling out the complete ludicrousness of this idea.

    Pretty emphatic response about the Swedish model, I totally support their stance.


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    #456
    Harry Palmr
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    After Covid 19 no one should view the Swedes as anything other than dangerously arrogant.


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    #457
    Zebra3
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Dr Henry: “No evidence yet of sustained immunity making herd immunity Very risky.”

    Dr Nolan: “ a lot of young people will have to die to reach it”

    How so when almost no young people have died despite how many have caught it?


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    #458
    Plumbthedepths
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Agreed to some extent, but communication is important too and that was just woeful as an interview.

    Was he ambushed do you think?


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    #459
    Eod100
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Glad they are calling out the complete ludicrousness of this idea.

    Anyone who suggests it should be asked which relatives or friends and how many would they be ok with getting sick with their aim for ''herd immunity''?


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    #460
    is_that_so
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    How so when almost no young people have died despite how many have caught it?
    In the context of a "herd immunity" strategy and letting it run loose to do that.


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    #461
    MerlinSouthDub
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Dr Henry: “No evidence yet of sustained immunity making herd immunity Very risky.”

    Dr Nolan: “ a lot of young people will have to die to reach it”

    Dr Nolan's is proveably false. The mortality rate for those under 30 is close to zero.


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    #462
    Zebra3
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    In the context of a "herd immunity" strategy and letting it run loose to do that.

    That doesn't answer my question.

    Almost no young people have died, so what is it that will make that change to loads of young people dying?


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    #463
    is_that_so
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    NEXT 10 DAYS CRITICAL!!!!:pac::pac:


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    #464
    blowitupref
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    Hard to believe 6 months on and still some think we should go with the daftness of herd immunity strategy. The look on Dr Glynns face to the question said it all.


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    #465
    Polar101
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    How so when almost no young people have died despite how many have caught it?

    They mentioned that the biggest risk in the spread of the disease is uncontrolled community transmission, which is pretty much what the Swedish lad was suggesting.

    Because the "shield the vulnerable" isn't realistic in practice.


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    #466
    MerlinSouthDub
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    Pretty emphatic response about the Swedish model, I totally support their stance.

    The Swedish model has led to a similar number of deaths per capita in those over 65 than the Irish model. Why do you think the Irish approach is better?


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    #467
    is_that_so
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    That doesn't answer my question.

    Almost no young people have died, so what is it that will make that change to loads of young people dying?
    To operate a strategy like that you would see more deaths, probably a lot, in all age groups, to reach herd immunity.


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    #468
    Funsterdelux
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    Should comparing Sweden to anything be added to the ban list on these threads


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    #469
    Polar101
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    "Reduce your social contacts"

    -Dr Glynn, about 25 times


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    #470
    caveat emptor
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    "outlier" getting a shout out. Love it.


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    #471
    is_that_so
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    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    The Swedish model has led to a similar number of deaths per capita in those over 65 than the Irish model. Why do you think the Irish approach is better?
    Both screwed up on care homes. Our deaths contain "of" and "with" COVID and are considered fairly accurate. We don't know how the Swedes recorded their COVID deaths nor how accurate they are.


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    Eod100
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    NEXT 10 DAYS CRITICAL!!!!:pac::pac:

    At least it's different than hearing next 7 days.. :P


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    #473
    Plumbthedepths
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    NEXT 10 DAYS CRITICAL!!!!:pac::pac:

    Surely he is pulling the p*as at this stage. No wonder they are loosing the buy in of so many.


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    #474
    Atlantic Dawn
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    We are an outlier because we have a not fit for purpose health system.


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    #475
    Arghus
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    Glynn wants to take his head off.


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    #476
    jackboy
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    To operate a strategy like that you would see more deaths, probably a lot, in all age groups, to reach herd immunity.

    The Swedish model is not letting the virus run rampant. There is social distancing in Sweden.


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    #477
    MerlinSouthDub
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Both screwed up on care homes. Our deaths contain "of" and "with" COVID are considered fairly accurate. We don't know how the Swedes recorded their COVID deaths nor how accurate they are.

    Yes, both made the same mistakes. So, how is the Irish approach better? We don't know how accurate any country's Covid death stats are but I don't see any evidence that Sweden has massively understated Covid deaths.


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    #478
    Santy2015
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    Come to the conclusion that there’s some serious idiots in this thread! Anyway I’ll keep my positivity going. Cork had 21 cases today, staying in around that figure last week or so.
    We haven’t crossed the 400 mark in cases and they look stable.
    Hospital admissions are stable and seems they’re discharging at a slower rate.
    Only 14 people in hospital all of munster with 4 in icu!


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    #479
    is_that_so
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Surely he is pulling the p*as at this stage. No wonder they are loosing the buy in of so many.
    It's a "put your coat on" from the Mammy, so annoying but so very familiar!


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    #480
    Eod100
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Surely he is pulling the p*as at this stage. No wonder they are loosing the buy in of so many.

    What would you expect or prefer him to say instead?


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    #481
    Gruffalux
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    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Dr Nolan's is proveably false. The mortality rate for those under 30 is close to zero.

    A good 95 % or more of people under 30 have never had Covid so how do you know?


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