Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

rob316

Widdensushi wrote: »

NPHET were acting too erratically to be blindly followed, can't go from saying level 3 is not needed on Thursday to level 5 on Sunday without adequately backing it up.

They destroyed any confidence the coalition had in them. I kept asking the same question how can your predictions and modelling change so much in 3 days.

CIARAN_BOYLE

GT89 wrote: »

If you get the vaccine it should be nothing to worry about for you. You are vaccinated = you are safe surely. If theyncatch covid that's their problem why do you even care?

Who knows what the efficacy of the vaccine will be? If it's like the flu vaccine a significant portion of people aren't effected by the vaccine and are relying on herd immunity from other people being vaccinated.

boggerman1

Strumms wrote: »

Video it on your phone. Bring it to your local Garda station. Although they’d be all over it if it was the soccer lads but the GAA are usually a law unto themselves.

Sick of the gaa bashing by the usual anti gaa/soccer crowd.any gaa thing I’ve been at locally everything done to the best of ways possible.plenty of crap going on all over and it’s not all the gaa fault.

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote: »

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

I don't remember Holohans name or the rest of his team being on the ballot paper. Expert recommendadation worked out well for the nursing home sector if I remember correctly. As I said the government has to weigh up many factors. Nphet is focused on only one.

marno21

Surprised they're not moving Donegal to Level 4 here to be honest. It's ridiculous to have Mayo and Donegal on the same level when Donegal has TEN times the incidence rate.

CIARAN_BOYLE

rob316 wrote: »

They destroyed any confidence the coalition had in them. I kept asking the same question how can your predictions and modelling change so much in 3 days.

Someone was saying earlier in the thread that 100 cases from Saturday were in nursing homes.

If so it might make a big difference. But that information needs to be shared if it's there. Not one person saying it.

begbysback

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PaulQuinnNews/status/1313154822514839553?s=20

So they found 1 doctor in all of Ireland

FintanMcluskey

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Who knows what the efficacy of the vaccine will be? If it's like the flu vaccine a significant portion of people aren't effected by the vaccine and are relying on herd immunity from other people being vaccinated.

So are people still going to die from Covid if there is
a vaccine?

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

I don't remember Holohans name or the rest of his team being on the ballot paper. Expert recommendadation worked out well for the nursing home sector if I remember correctly. As I said the government has to weigh up many factors. Nphet is focused on only one.

Yes, NPHET is focused solely on the national health.
Where does that rank in your estimation?

Gradius

Oh the grand old leadership,
They had ten thousand cases,
They locked in the country and opened it up,
Then they had another ten thousand cases

And when numbers were up they were up,
And when numbers were down they were down,
And when they were only half way up,
The economy still went down

landofthetree

Drumpot wrote: »

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

They will fine somebody for breaking a rule.

Hysterics will ensue and the government will climb down after be judged to be worse than the Nazis by the left wing opposition.

Rx713B

How we fixed for numbers today

CIARAN_BOYLE

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

So are people still going to die from Covid if there is
a vaccine?

Well we should have herd immunity if there's a vaccine if it works well.

If 90% of people get the vaccine and it works on 70% of people we should have herd immunity and outbreaks should be small and rare.

That said yeah there can still be deaths after we have a vaccine. Between antivax and those that the vaccine doesn't work on there can still be outbreaks.

Funsterdelux

Gradius wrote: »

Oh the grand old Duke of Cork?
They had ten thousand cases,
They locked in the country and opened it up,
Then they had another ten thousand cases

And when numbers were up they were up,
And when numbers were down they were down,
And when they were only half way up,
The economy still went down

Russman

Does this now put us up with the Trump and BoJo administrations in ignoring the medical experts and scientists ? Rarified air indeed.
Have we lost the right to ridicule Trump for ignoring Fauci ?

Dayor Knight

Let's see what happens when the silent majority who want their people protected start to speak up and start telling their representatives what they think of them. Most of the noise these few days is being made by the deniers. The virus doesn't care if you want your nice life back. It will take your life and that of others. Especially the old and weakest. It will also wreak havoc on some younger lives.

Mind yourself carefully for the next six months because this virus is on the march, and your government appears no longer interested in keeping you alive. Because some people have to party.

nimrod86

Drumpot wrote: »

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

At the end of the day though, they're the government - They set the rules, they set the punishments. They know what's at stake, they don't need to spin it any way. They need to give the Gardai a big stick to keep the people flouting the rules in line.

Micháel needs to step up and lead, or feck off out of the way. This bumbling and delaying is doing nothing for anyone.

HeyV

marno21 wrote: »

Surprised they're not moving Donegal to Level 4 here to be honest. It's ridiculous to have Mayo and Donegal on the same level when Donegal has TEN times the incidence rate.

But like many counties, Donegal or the other top infected counties weren’t in the news a while back. Most had small numbers and then just seemed to snowball.
The counties today with low numbers could be the very same way in a week or so.
Bloody curse of a disease!

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote: »

Yes, NPHET is focused solely on the national health.
Where does that rank in your estimation?

I'd rank it the same as I would rank the economy, mental health. All are interlinked.

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Neither is anyone else.

That is true too but we hearing more about students, fact is everyone needs to play their part, all ages

Strumms

caveat emptor wrote: »

So if the government can discount NPHET's advice, can we not follow the gov's advice?
Advice is advice right. Take it or leave it by nature.

If I have a spare 40 grand. I want a new car. My mechanic mate of 15 years experience says the Hyundai Santa Fe, he’s a mechanic, he owns one his second one.

If I take a look at the Skoda Kodiak SUV, cheaper, not quite as nice but I go for it, a year later I realize it’s a plastic unreliable flop and I’m back to the garage twice....

Who is responsible ? My mechanic ? The Skoda salesman ? Nope, ME... I had the expert advice formed by expertise and experience. But I for whatever reason said no.

Similar situation here, government need to put their ears to the medical men and their loyalty to the citizens

thelad95

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Have you looked at level 3? We're pretty much shutting down the hospitality sector for the country.

We're not ignoring you dope.

Which will achieve absolutely nothing

BorneTobyWilde

What is level 3
Need a summary

Stheno

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

Thats five weeks for Dublin

Gradius

Funsterdelux wrote: »

John O.Groats

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

Right. Any word on the enforcement measures?

Blondini

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What is level 3
Need a summary

In summary no need to bulk buy toys, pasta or bogroll.

JP Liz V1

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

So no staycations, stay in our own counties unless essential work travel now

FintanMcluskey

John O.Groats wrote: »

Right. Any word on the enforcement measures?

Hopefully its a no nonsense approach

stephenjmcd

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

Well done the Government for not bowing to hysteria driven merchants like Sam McConkey and factoring in peoples' livelihoods. Some actual leadership shown at last, the NPHET puppet strings have been severed.

MerlinSouthDub

Russman wrote: »

Does this now put us up with the Trump and BoJo administrations in ignoring the medical experts and scientists ? Rarified air indeed.
Have we lost the right to ridicule Trump for ignoring Fauci ?

With a lower infection rate than many countries in Europe, we have the strictest restrictions. We're hardly doing a Trump or a BoJo.

GooglePlus

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What is level 3
Need a summary

Rainy pints

BorneTobyWilde

Level 3 is '' as you were''
Nothing in it whatsoever, no changes.

landofthetree

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What is level 3
Need a summary

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/covid19/living_with_covid19_plan.html#

Icyseanfitz

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

So really no bloody difference to level 2 for 3 further weeks :rolleyes: good to know the government are listening to the experts ffs

stephenjmcd

John O.Groats wrote: »

Right. Any word on the enforcement measures?

Likely to take longer, need legislation that won't come in today one would suspect.

Non solum non ambulabit

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19

3 weeks before Level 4. Levels only going in 1 direction.

stretchaq

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

So really no bloody difference to level 2 for 3 further weeks :rolleyes: good to know the government are listening to the experts ffs

No team sports 😂😂

robfowler78

Just watching Virgin News and it was spelled out clear as day we fecking needed more ICU beds. Why the hell did we not do that for the last 6 months. One of the Biggest spenders in Europe on health service and worst ICU capacity. Should rent the private hospitals again like in May Jun Jul to cover us.

stephenjmcd

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Level 3 is '' as you were''
Nothing in it whatsoever, no changes.

Eh well there is, no more fans allowed at sports, reduced numbers at funerals etc, hosptiality sector essentially closed. Restictions on nursing home visits also.

Some of it might not affect you but there is changes.

Your looking at 150k+ back onto the dole overnight

BorneTobyWilde

Total cop out, Level 3 will have zero effect.

T-TOTAL LOCKDOWN WEEKENDS would be a better bet. Lock down country every Friday at 11pm, Open Monday at 5am.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Any word on when we can expect today's numbers?

Blondini

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

3 weeks before Level 4. Levels only going in 1 direction.

Probably won't even take the three weeks unfortunately.

billybonkers

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

So really no bloody difference to level 2 for 3 further weeks :rolleyes: good to know the government are listening to the experts ffs

Well there a a lot of differences for counties other than Dublin and Donegal

HeyV

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Any word on when we can expect today's numbers?

I’d say any minute now... get ready

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm not allowed go near campus. Stuck at home. But we should be blamed.

You are going in a couple hours a week ago as part of your courses blended learning according to yourself, and if UCC have decided to stop blended learning they haven't updated their site
https://www.ucc.ie/en/emt/covid19/timetables/

So take it your course has just moved to online only?

Friend has an interview with DKIT for an open.position on Wednesday; The interview is taking place on campus.
Labs are still taking place there for veterinary etc.

octsol

600+

polesheep

robfowler78 wrote: »

Just watching Virgin News and it was spelled out clear as day we fecking needed more ICU beds. Why the hell did we not do that for the last 6 months. One of the Biggest spenders in Europe on health service and worst ICU capacity. Should rent the private hospitals again like in May Jun Jul to cover us.

We could just go to the market. Ask the private hospitals to provide ICU beds and pay for them as needed.

howsshenow

ALDI Castletroy Limerick allowing Adult shoppers in without a facemask..
.
I thought Dunnes were Ott but this is Totally unacceptable.