Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

JP Liz V1

polesheep wrote: »

Almost every citizen in the country is helping to spread it, that's how the virus works. Can you honestly say that you have stuck rigidly to the restrictions?

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

HeyV

So, apart from what coverage this gets on the 6 o’clock news this evening, there is no brief being shown today?

nimrod86

tails_naf wrote: »

Actually we have pulled back from it. Doesn't stop it from happening though...

Ah right, fair enough! We'd be in a far better situation all round if more people did the same and took personal responsibility over things! Not involved in the GAA or sports myself, but from what I'm hearing coming out over the past few days it seems they really need to get their act together and start hammering local clubs not following the guidelines!

spookwoman

Someone has some serious delusions of grandeur if they think just because they are a good little so and so that everyone else is doing the exact same thing.

I keep seeing that meme Set of encyclopedias for sale, no longer needed , the husband know f*cking everything.

AdamD

Blondini wrote: »

So a bunch of non-medical suits have ignored doctors orders on our behalf?

Sounds great.

Yeah because the suits actually have to think of a wide range of consequences. If anything the doctors have an easier brief here - if in doubt, lock down.

However that's no way to run a country. The government has done exactly what was asked of them here - considered the medical recommendations, considered the wider impact and met somewhere in between.

Some people seem genuinely annoyed we aren't locking down. Rather weird, though not an attitude you'd encounter offline.

caveat emptor

Wow

https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1313145421657640962?s=20

Goldrickssan

TexasTornado wrote: »

Huge questions now about this government. If they can't accept the advice of NPHET they aren't fit for office.

They answer to us not NPHET

Happydays2020

nacho libre wrote: »

So Tony wanted to let everyone know he is back:D The people getting upset earlier should have realised the government would reject the advice to go to level 5. Those recommending the restrictions probably knew well the government would do so, but are now happy that a compromise has been reached. It also means people who were complaining about the Government previously, will now side with it, and be a bit more accepting of level 3 restrictions nationwide, which was probably the plan all along.

Tony has damaged himself and NPHET. He was too impatient to make a statement. All he had to do was to highlight serious concerns all week and he would have got his greater enforcement and probably a mix of level 3 and level 4.

polesheep

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

As I said, we're all in glass houses.

Coybig_

billybonkers wrote: »

Yes but people could have died from it and not known that was the cause of death if they were not tested....

My god.

People have died with it but been counted as having died from it. If anything the deaths are overblown.

We are now operating under the assumption that people who died could have had Covid, and that being a cause for fear. This is beyond all levels of sanity.

MerlinSouthDub

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

As we were told last week this is the "plan" for 9 months. utter carnage.

And, what is the alternative? Zero covid? Impossible unless the UK do the same. Let the virus rip? Hardly palatable. We are approaching it the same way as the rest of Europe, and I guess every country is hoping that a vaccine will arrive sooner rather than later.

billybonkers

HeyV wrote: »

So, apart from what coverage this gets on the 6 o’clock news this evening, there is no brief being shown today?

No but expect something on 9 o clock news from MM. Only way they can get the message out if no briefing

tails_naf

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

Your kids are in poorly ventilated overcrowded classrooms 8hrs a day. Outdoor training is a lot safer.

I completely agree, schools are not handing this well. Within 2 weeks of kids being back everyone in our house had a cold/cough/sniffles. Even got tested - it was negative, so just plain old back to school cold, but goes to show how weak and exposed the back to school plan is.

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

Nphet's job is to offer advice it is the job of government to weigh up that advice with other factors. You seem to be confusing the meaning of advice and an order.

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

titan18

polesheep wrote: »

You should hold that to a mirror.

You can socialise without having house parties.

Vinnie222

GooglePlus wrote: »

I can't even get a book from the student library, I don't think students are where we should be looking.

Cause they are 2 busy holding parties

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

A group of experts providing only one data point for consideration by the government. If the government blindly followed NPHET then they aren’t fit for office

Given that NPHET have only one agenda, their advice should not be public IMO. It is just sowing more fear and division

Boggles

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Tony has damaged himself and NPHET. He was too impatient to make a statement. All he had to do was to highlight serious concerns all week and he would have got his greater enforcement and probably a mix of level 3 and level 4.

Tony doesn't make the decisions.

A whole panel of people do.

The narrative that Tony was dancing around a cauldron naked last night plotting Level 5 for the country is absolute bat shít.

CalamariFritti

This thread is descending into a car crash.

Funsterdelux

caveat emptor wrote: »

Wow

https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1313145421657640962?s=20

But but but the White House cant close its borders....

caveat emptor

So if the government can discount NPHET's advice, can we not follow the gov's advice?
Advice is advice right. Take it or leave it by nature.

GeorgeBailey

Miike wrote: »

If Zara King brings up weddings I'm going to have a conniption :pac:

I know, right. Absolutely nobody cares about weddings. Nobody. Well ok, maybe the couples. And maybe their guests. And maybe people who rely on weddings for income. But other than that, definitely nobody.

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Your constant posts about house parties and students suggest otherwise, but okay.

Students are not innocent here, the amount of house parties in college university cities is shocking, while I'm sure there is some students acting responsible others are not

Dayor Knight

Goldrickssan wrote: »

They answer to us not NPHET

Yes, they will have to answer to us.

They will have to account to us for their inaction and the deaths and personal devastation that will occur over their dithering.

Goldrickssan

20 hours since the NPHET leak and no communication from the government. It's turning into a farce.

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Students are not innocent here, the amount of house parties in college university cities is shocking, while I'm sure there is some students acting responsible others are not

Neither is anyone else.

Funsterdelux

CalamariFritti wrote: »

This thread is descending into a car crash.

Widdensushi

caveat emptor wrote: »

So if the government can discount NPHET's advice, can we not follow the gov's advice?
Advice is advice right. Take it or leave it by nature.

You can follow nphtet s advice

SleetAndSnow

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Students are not innocent here, the amount of house parties in college university cities is shocking, while I'm sure there is some students acting responsible others are not

Nobody is saying students are innocent, but you can't just keep using them (us) as an example when it is the same across all the age groups. Adults planning parties for the kids etc is nearly the exact same... as has been the cause for Donegal being so high if I remember

There are people in each part of society acting irresponsible, so if students can stop being used as the one example by people it would be great.

begbysback

Yay - fcuk level 5