Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

iamwhoiam

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

Me too . Have kept well away from any crowds , avoided busy times in shops
Have been very careful who is in my house and played my part .
As have my friends and my siblings .

MerlinSouthDub

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Yes, they will have to answer to us.

They will have to account to us for their inaction and the deaths and personal devastation that will occur over their dithering.

Dithering? They made a decision within hours of the NPHET recommendation.

Yes, the government will have to answer to us. They have made a balanced and appropriate decision.

GT89

John O.Groats wrote: »

And what about the anti vaxxer nutjobs that will refuse to take a vaccine should one be developed? What then?

If you get the vaccine it should be nothing to worry about for you. You are vaccinated = you are safe surely. If theyncatch covid that's their problem why do you even care?

JP Liz V1

polesheep wrote: »

As I said, we're all in glass houses.

Well I'm not throwing large parties in my glass house or attending any

Renjit

Goldrickssan wrote: »

20 hours since the NPHET leak and no communication from the government. It's turning into a farce.

Caught between a rock and a hard place

Strumms

tails_naf wrote: »

On the topic of the GAA, my kids do camogie and while the local club and coaches are amazing, social distancing is nowhere in sight. While we're all avoiding one another like the (literal) plague, training sessions are full on, contact, group huddles, the works. It seems so strange my wife is spaced 2 meters apart, limited to 6 doing non contact dancing while GAA is a free for all.

Video it on your phone. Bring it to your local Garda station. Although they’d be all over it if it was the soccer lads but the GAA are usually a law unto themselves.

Sardonicat

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Nobody is saying students are innocent, but you can't just keep using them (us) as an example when it is the same across all the age groups. Adults planning parties for the kids etc is nearly the exact same... as has been the cause for Donegal being so high if I remember

There are people in each part of society acting irresponsible, so if students can stop being used as the one example by people it would be great.

Communion/confirmation parties are playing a significant role in the spread.

Renjit

polesheep wrote: »

As I said, we're all in glass houses.

Plan is as good as the weakest link of a chain.

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote:

A group of experts providing only one data point for consideration by the government. If the government blindly followed NPHET then they aren’t fit for office

They've all been in government before and already proven they are unfit for office.

Deleted User wrote:

Given that NPHET have only one agenda, their advice should not be public IMO. It is just sowing more fear and division

This fear thing keeps getting mentioned by the anti-lockdown types.
I know loads of people who are very careful and have kept their kids a home and I don't see fear in any of them.
It seems to me that all the fear is on the anti-lockdown side of things. They get upset at bad news, get upset at any suggestion if restrictions and keep talking about people's mental health.
Well all I can tell you is that the people in in touch with who have remained in a lockdown is that they are all in good mental health, happy people with happy children.

Widdensushi

NPHET were acting too erratically to be blindly followed, can't go from saying level 3 is not needed on Thursday to level 5 on Sunday without adequately backing it up.

JP Liz V1

titan18 wrote: »

You can socialise without having house parties.

Yes and there is more to college life than house parties, on the sesh etc.,

caveat emptor

Data suggesting people want more restrains not fewer.

https://twitter.com/SiCarswell/status/1313094541717762050?s=20

John O.Groats

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

Unfortunately the answer to that would appear to be yes.

rob316

No more guidelines, strict enforcement from gardai. No one likes their liberties been impeded on but we need to protect people, jobs and businesses. We can avoid a further escalation if we get tough on enforcement.

rob316

caveat emptor wrote: »

Data suggesting people want more restrains not fewer.

https://twitter.com/SiCarswell/status/1313094541717762050?s=20

We all know the accuracy of polls :rolleyes:

Dayor Knight

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Dithering? They made a decision within hours of the NPHET recommendation.

Yes, the government will have to answer to us. They have made a balanced and appropriate decision.

In your opinion. Not in mine.

And then let's see what happens next, like by the end of the week, and you'll see what I mean about dithering. Dithering over moving Dublin to a higher level when it's warranted by the available medical information. Waiting until we have a really serious situation before acting. Dithering about Dublin.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/PaulQuinnNews/status/1313154822514839553?s=20

Drumpot

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

SleetAndSnow

Drumpot wrote: »

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

Will they though? Probably not

landofthetree

eagle eye wrote: »

They've all been in government before and already proven they are unfit for office.


This fear thing keeps getting mentioned by the anti-lockdown types.
I know loads of people who are very careful and have kept their kids a home and I don't see fear in any of them.
It seems to me that all the fear is on the anti-lockdown side of things. They get upset at bad news, get upset at any suggestion if restrictions and keep talking about people's mental health.
Well all I can tell you is that the people in in touch with who have remained in a lockdown is that they are all in good mental health, happy people with happy children.

A lot of people are in a bad way.

Not everyone can work from home. Not everyone had a garden to access during lockdown


Small businesses are really struggling. A second lockdown would finish off many.

Lockdown has been not so bad for many. If you can work from home you have a lot to be grateful for.

rob316

Widdensushi wrote: »

NPHET were acting too erratically to be blindly followed, can't go from saying level 3 is not needed on Thursday to level 5 on Sunday without adequately backing it up.

They destroyed any confidence the coalition had in them. I kept asking the same question how can your predictions and modelling change so much in 3 days.

CIARAN_BOYLE

GT89 wrote: »

If you get the vaccine it should be nothing to worry about for you. You are vaccinated = you are safe surely. If theyncatch covid that's their problem why do you even care?

Who knows what the efficacy of the vaccine will be? If it's like the flu vaccine a significant portion of people aren't effected by the vaccine and are relying on herd immunity from other people being vaccinated.

boggerman1

Strumms wrote: »

Video it on your phone. Bring it to your local Garda station. Although they’d be all over it if it was the soccer lads but the GAA are usually a law unto themselves.

Sick of the gaa bashing by the usual anti gaa/soccer crowd.any gaa thing I’ve been at locally everything done to the best of ways possible.plenty of crap going on all over and it’s not all the gaa fault.

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote: »

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

I don't remember Holohans name or the rest of his team being on the ballot paper. Expert recommendadation worked out well for the nursing home sector if I remember correctly. As I said the government has to weigh up many factors. Nphet is focused on only one.

marno21

Surprised they're not moving Donegal to Level 4 here to be honest. It's ridiculous to have Mayo and Donegal on the same level when Donegal has TEN times the incidence rate.

CIARAN_BOYLE

rob316 wrote: »

They destroyed any confidence the coalition had in them. I kept asking the same question how can your predictions and modelling change so much in 3 days.

Someone was saying earlier in the thread that 100 cases from Saturday were in nursing homes.

If so it might make a big difference. But that information needs to be shared if it's there. Not one person saying it.

begbysback

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PaulQuinnNews/status/1313154822514839553?s=20

So they found 1 doctor in all of Ireland

FintanMcluskey

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Who knows what the efficacy of the vaccine will be? If it's like the flu vaccine a significant portion of people aren't effected by the vaccine and are relying on herd immunity from other people being vaccinated.

So are people still going to die from Covid if there is
a vaccine?

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

I don't remember Holohans name or the rest of his team being on the ballot paper. Expert recommendadation worked out well for the nursing home sector if I remember correctly. As I said the government has to weigh up many factors. Nphet is focused on only one.

Yes, NPHET is focused solely on the national health.
Where does that rank in your estimation?

Gradius

Oh the grand old leadership,
They had ten thousand cases,
They locked in the country and opened it up,
Then they had another ten thousand cases

And when numbers were up they were up,
And when numbers were down they were down,
And when they were only half way up,
The economy still went down