Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Goldrickssan

goingnowhere wrote: »

Per HSE I would be counted as a COVID death, we need to get serious here and get a proper medical review as determine if COVID was the cause of death or a second issue.

Wrong. HSE use WHO guidance for counting deaths.

"A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID disease (e.g. trauma)."

What Username Guidelines

430 cases, no deaths.

iguana

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Even in developed countries the cases are understated, sure in April you had to have two symptoms to be tested, we must have missed thousands of cases

Two symptoms would not get you tested. You had to have at least 2 recognised (at the time) symptoms and have either a specific underlying condition, be a close contact of a confirmed case or be a relevant health care worker. Tbf, we didn't even have the capacity to test even those people but we missed the vast majority of cases.

Van.Bosch

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

Not good

prunudo

And there's the start of the backlog, 430 today

GooglePlus

goingnowhere wrote: »

Per HSE I would be counted as a COVID death, we need to get serious here and get a proper medical review as determine if COVID was the cause of death or a second issue.

How many people are getting hit by buses and being counted as Covid deaths?

To tone it down a bit, your point is trying to hit at those who may be ill already but Covid led to their death? Or what is it?

What's your point, exaggerations aside.

What Username Guidelines

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

212 cases are in Dublin, 54 in Cork, 23 in Donegal, 23 in Galway, 16 in Louth, 15 in Monaghan, 12 in Clare, 12 in Meath, 9 in Cavan, 8 in Roscommon, 7 in Wicklow, 6 in Limerick, 5 in Kildare, 5 in Tipperary with the remaining 23 cases in 9 counties.

Oranage2

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

Backlog cleared?

Could be seeing big numbers all week too

stephenjmcd

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

We won't know until testing data released to tomorrow but suspect there's a large backlog in there

boardise

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

1 in 19? Why? Why would we be below the world average for survival?

Aha , was wondering why it was called Covid 19 !:eek:

froog

54 in cork. that's a significant increase.

Sam Russell

boardise wrote: »

Aha , was wondering why it was called Covid 19 !:eek:

Ask Simon Harris

is_that_so

goingnowhere wrote: »

Per HSE I would be counted as a COVID death, we need to get serious here and get a proper medical review as determine if COVID was the cause of death or a second issue.

Eh, they already do that. COVID deaths, suspected deaths and data on underlying conditions. Who's going to do this "proper" review? Locals are out as they largely agree with how we've counted. We can't get an outside expert in as other countries have their own creative accounting for COVID deaths.

Santy2015

If it is a backlog, it just has to stop! That figure is going to put the fear of god into some people!! Instead of having the number be around the 200/300 they produce a nice big figure on a Sunday evening to scare the bejaysus out of people!

leanin2019

Oranage2 wrote: »

Backlog cleared?

Could be seeing big numbers all week too

It was almost 400 last Sunday as well but just below 200 on the Monday.

JP Liz V1

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

212 cases are in Dublin, 54 in Cork, 23 in Donegal, 23 in Galway, 16 in Louth, 15 in Monaghan, 12 in Clare, 12 in Meath, 9 in Cavan, 8 in Roscommon, 7 in Wicklow, 6 in Limerick, 5 in Kildare, 5 in Tipperary with the remaining 23 cases in 9 counties.

Cork rising sharply, that's a worry

Gael23

Santy2015 wrote: »

If it is a backlog, it just has to stop! That figure is going to put the fear of god into some people!

That’s what NPHET want.

Oranage2

Santy2015 wrote: »

If it is a backlog, it just has to stop! That figure is going to put the fear of god into some people!! Instead of having the number be around the 200/300 they produce a nice big figure on a Sunday evening to scare the bejaysus out of people!

The testing figures last week were more like 350-400+. We're in trouble

Fr_Dougal

froog wrote: »

54 in cork. that's a significant increase.

Cork needs to be shut down.

wadacrack

Santy2015 wrote: »

If it is a backlog, it just has to stop! That figure is going to put the fear of god into some people!! Instead of having the number be around the 200/300 they produce a nice big figure on a Sunday evening to scare the bejaysus out of people!

Fear is what will help control it. When deaths increase certain people's perception of the virus will change

fritzelly

Need to lockdown Cork now before it gets worse

JP Liz V1

72% under 45, highest number daily cases in a long long time

froog

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Cork needs to be shut down.

level 3 early next week i'd say.

Santy2015

Gael23 wrote: »

That’s what NPHET want.

But that’s just plain wrong. Do they not care about people’s well-being and mental health?

KrustyUCC

Biggest Cork figure for quite a while

Worrying

is_that_so

Santy2015 wrote: »

If it is a backlog, it just has to stop! That figure is going to put the fear of god into some people!! Instead of having the number be around the 200/300 they produce a nice big figure on a Sunday evening to scare the bejaysus out of people!

Deep breath now. 7 day, 14 day and cases per 100K are what matter now.

Benimar

Santy2015 wrote: »

If it is a backlog, it just has to stop! That figure is going to put the fear of god into some people!! Instead of having the number be around the 200/300 they produce a nice big figure on a Sunday evening to scare the bejaysus out of people!

In fairness, the numbers the last three days would have been touching 400 had cases announced matched the swabs.

Gael23

Just a little while ago Donnelly said the situation in Dublin was showing signs of stabilising

ACitizenErased

Cork not even close to getting what Donegal got last few days per capita.
They won’t lock down the whole county for 30-50 cases a day primarily concentrated in the city. Biggest county in the country, won’t be the same restrictions as anywhere else.

Allinall

Gael23 wrote: »

That’s what NPHET want.

Why?

Santy2015

Benimar wrote: »

In fairness, the numbers the last three days would have been touching 400 had cases announced matched the swabs.

Did you not say there was a possible back log of 180 odd cases? Or did I read it wrong

stephenjmcd

Gael23 wrote: »

Just a little while ago Donnelly said the situation in Dublin was showing signs of stabilising

And it quite possibly is. There hasn't been any major growth in Dublin cases in the last few days compared to other counties.

Should start to see this week now if theres been an impact of the restrictions

is_that_so

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Biggest Cork figure for quite a while

Worrying

What was Cork at - 60 per 100K?

Pablo Escobar

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north east are where the problems are. Even those don’t have high enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

ACitizenErased

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north west are where the problems are. Even those don’t have Hugh enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

Exactly. There is 2-3 LEAs driving cases.

Eod100

Highest number of cases since 26th April, 5 months. Not ideal https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1310262547925405698?s=19

Pablo Escobar

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Exactly. There is 2-3 LEAs driving cases.

And it’s cork city north east, I edited my post.

billybonkers

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cork not even close to getting what Donegal got last few days per capita.
They won’t lock down the whole county for 30-50 cases a day primarily concentrated in the city. Biggest county in the country, won’t be the same restrictions as anywhere else.

I think they will this week if it doesn't drop significantly

Gael23

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north east are where the problems are. Even those don’t have high enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

How could that be policed though?

Derek Zoolander

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Cork rising sharply, that's a worry

Must be a mistake as everyone wears their masks down in cork

Benimar

Santy2015 wrote: »

Did you not say there was a possible back log of 180 odd cases? Or did I read it wrong

More than that.

However, if they were announcing the full total of positive swabs, we would have seen cases touching 400 the last 3 days. Sort of negates your argument that they are trying to scare us with 430 cases when they could have done it 3 days in a row!

430 case

ACitizenErased

Gael23 wrote: »

How could that be policed though?

Cork City is a completely seperate Garda district from anywhere else. All of the cork city council region is policed by a specific garda division.

blowitupref

Sunday the new day for backlog cases it seems.

102 more cases this week that last week from a lot more testing. 10 deaths reported the same as last week.

Pablo Escobar

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north east are where the problems are. Even those don’t have Hugh enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

I think they've been suggesting some city specific measures but I can't see how such measures will have the desired effect. Pandemic fatigue is a real problem at the moment, people just want to get on with things and significant numbers aren't really acting in a way that will actually get numbers down. We're a long way off an R number of 1 or lower.

hetuzozaho

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north east are where the problems are. Even those don’t have high enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

They've applied it to every other county like that. Can't see them getting special treatment. But feel for the towns in Donegal who didnt need a lockdown

What Username Guidelines

Gael23 wrote: »

Just a little while ago Donnelly said the situation in Dublin was showing signs of stabilising

It was ~60% of all cases for a while and has been trending down as a % of all cases to below 50% now. Doesn’t mean a hell of a lot overall, as it’s been driven a little by other counties seeing a rise, but it’s also not surging with wild levels of growth

ACitizenErased

Any sort of restrictions should be on Cork City alone. I think that’s a measured response but what might happen is an unknown.

Cody montana

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Cork rising sharply, that's a worry

I’d say we will be in lockdown mid week.

BringBackMick

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Any sort of restrictions should be on Cork City alone. I think that’s a measured response but what might happen is an unknown.

Why would Cork get such preferential treatment? Sure the same could be said for parts of Offaly and Dublin etc.

This is a county based approach and there will be no special treatment just because it is Cork.