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    #2792
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    The quality musnt be bothering the Chinese too much and all of it they are buying.



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    #2793
    somewhat disappointed
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭somewhat disappointed


    Seen a 490 kg Friesian bullock 2 years old sold for €1450 in a local mart how can this be justified ? Nice looking bullock but still only an O grade animal. The Adrenaline rush ringside seems to be taking over.



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    #2794
    Fine Day
    Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    A proper cold evening out there this evening. Silage is tight round me here. Alot of bale's moving. If this cold spell were to continue for a few weeks it will affect the price in the mart. With that also the factory will more than likely start pulling the price also. I need to start replacing but might hold off for a week or two and see how it pans out.



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    #2795
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Have a 650kg CHxHE heifer, hitting 24 months with good cover. If I were to factory, what sort of kill out would you expect



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    #2796
    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,626 ✭✭✭White Clover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120288390#Comment_120288390

    I imagine she's an R grade animal. I'd say 350 kgs dead.



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    #2797
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120288113#Comment_120288113

    I’d say the only thing that’ll affect the mart trade atm is the beef price. I see a msg on the beef group yesterday to say one factory has increased this week by 5cent.



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    #2798
    leoch
    Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭leoch


    Heifers back up to base of 5.25 this week in Foyle meats



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    #2799
    DBK1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I killed in 2 factories this week, both telling me they were doing me a great favour by giving me last weeks price of €5.25 and not this weeks price of €5.20.

    They’re both quoting €5.25 for next week now without any favours! It looks like they tried getting it to €5.20 but it didn’t work. One of the factories is only doing a 4 day week this week as they didn’t get the numbers of cattle in with the talk of the price drop. Thankfully the power seems to be on the farmers side for another while.



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    #2800
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120300854#Comment_120300854

    Plus 10 between 300 and 400 kgs I presume. Do you kill many in Foyle?



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    #2801
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120300875#Comment_120300875

    Has anyone ever talked to a factory agent without being told they're being done a favour??? I think it's a form of Tourette's or verbal tic with them. Every second sentence has to have "favour" in it 😀

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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    #2802
    leoch
    Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭leoch


    Yea I kill a few



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    #2803
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120301207#Comment_120301207

    Is that online anywhere? Don’t see it on LSL



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    #2804
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120301280#Comment_120301280

    Yeah found it there. Some quality looking cattle.



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    #2805
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,566 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120300875#Comment_120300875

    Factories are trying to keep stock coming in. When prices rise people expect it to continue and will hold cattle. A 5c/ kg over 3 weeks is 50 euro on the a average finished bullock. W LL worth holding if you are not replacing if you gaining even slight more than feed costs

    Processors want to keep these lads bringing in cattle. They have now managed 3-4 weeks without a price rise. They will try to hold the line until mid/ late April

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #2806
    smallbeef
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    Factories holding prices here but UK have been increasing theirs every week since the start of the year.

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    #2807
    somewhat disappointed
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭somewhat disappointed


    A Neighbouring Farmer has asked me to herd his Cattle for him during the Summer. He lives a distance from the land I am glad that he trusts me. Should I do it as a Pal / Friend or should I ask for something financially for my time I value your opinions/feedback.



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    #2808
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120302319#Comment_120302319

    He should pay you for it. Even if it’s 20 quid a time it’s a lot cheaper than him having to drive and do it himself.



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    #2809
    minerleague
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭minerleague


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120302319#Comment_120302319

    If you take money it will be harder to stop if you find its taking up too much time, hate herding other peoples cattle as would watch them closer than my own!



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    #2810
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Im buying a nice batch of bullocks off a farmer...a neighbour beside me...just open a gate and theyre in my herd.... 5 HEX, 5 AAX and 5 LMX....

    Only one movement, 2 year old cattle....i would guess 550kg average....some are obviously better than others, few Rs in it.....

    He wants 1 flat price for the lot....what would ye suggest?...i want to be fair....im thinking 1500 each?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #2811
    smallbeef
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120304776#Comment_120304776

    Thats sounds a fair price but without accurate weights its open to one of you getting shafted. Personally I wouldn't be confident enough in my ability to weigh cattle by eye to spend 22.5k, but there are plenty lads who are seriously accurate with the eye. Also mart weight would be 20/30kg less. Say they are 525kg in the mart @ €2.80/kg they'd make €1470, and the seller would need to pay about €30/head out of that for haulage and mart fees.



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    #2812
    2smiggy
    Registered Users Posts: 20,573 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    I'm sure it's answered, but where is the best place to get the most up to date factory prices ?



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    #2813
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120304908#Comment_120304908

    Agriland, that's farming, IFA all have fairly up to date prices, tho there is usually better deals done than the quoted price.

    Tbh when this thread is going good, I feel here is the best place for base quotes direct from the farmers mouth.



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    #2814
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120304892#Comment_120304892

    Thanks for that input......i have dealt with him before...always do well with him, so i dont mind giving him a good price...very quiet, docile animals, that never need the vet...there maybe a few south of 550kg but also a few north...

    the biggest ballache i had with him was always loading and unloading to haul away and weigh them....

    I have to give up a day hanging around a mart hoping to fill up a load....i think the benefits of this arrangement outweigh a price saving maybe of the mart...

    Post edited by StevenToast on

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #2815
    smallbeef
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120305021#Comment_120305021

    Yeah there are no haulage and mart fees for either party. No health or stress issues for the cattle so they can hit the ground running. Good luck with them.



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    #2816
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭tanko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120304776#Comment_120304776

    It’s hard to know without seeing them but if he’s happy with €1500 i’d say you’re doing ok.



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    #2817
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120304776#Comment_120304776

    As above that sounds a fair price provided there averaging close on 550kg fresh weight. Working back from there to a mart weight of 520kg @ €1500 is €2.89 a kilo. When you take mart seller's commission and haulage into account you're probably talking about the bones of €40 on those sort of stock (€25 commission and €10-€15 haulage) plus €10 buyers commission and haulage home. All combined that's an additional 10c-12c a kilo at least and he'll need north of €3 a kilo or €60 more a piece in the ring to equal €1500 at home.

    Provided you're fairly accurate with the weights then I'd consider €1500 across the board a fair price for both parties. It's a fair touch for a mixed bag but that's the way the world is gone atm and if you were happy with his stock in previous years then it's better the devil you know.



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    #2818
    GNWoodd
    Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120305021#Comment_120305021

    If you have 550 kgs on your farm for € 1500 you are doing well .

    558 kgs sold for € 1630 last mart before Christmas . LMX / HEX



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    #2819
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    5.20 and 5. 30 bullock heifer base price in Foyle plus 10 cent between 300 and 400 kgs.

    Similar base in dunbia in slane.



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    #2820
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120306029#Comment_120306029

    Looking in kk mart today...i think there is a bit of heat after being taken out of the market.



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    #2821
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120306029#Comment_120306029

    If there 550kg on farm then they'd be roughly 520kg after a few hours transport/mart. There's almost 40kg of a difference in those weights (558kg would be touching 600kg on farm). When stock are touching €3 a kilo then every kilo adds up. Having them 40kg heavier at €3 a kilo is €120 and that's the difference in €1500 and €1630.

    There's a difference in fresh weights and mart weights and some lad's overlook it. In the US they apply the term "shrinkage" and allow a certain percentage discounted on live weight weigh-ins to account for it. There's a further difference in certain marts due to how long the cattle are standing around before sale. If cattle are booked in prior to sale day and the numbers allocated the real cute lads don't bring them in until shortly before they go through the ring. There's a big difference between them and similar cattle sold in a mart that allocates the numbers as they come in and stock could be standing in a queue for half a day before they even enter the mart.



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