New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

13-11-2021 12:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158730#Comment_118158730

You literally tried to compare GBN YouTube numbers to BBC live streaming a bird nest... That was your example of them supposedly beating BBC. ;)

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 12:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158730#Comment_118158730

That's just for it's 9pm news bulletin.

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 12:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158962#Comment_118158962

Eerily similar to farage then, who 100% doesn't give a **** about immigration and the NHS and the ordinary man/woman in the street.

He's in it for the paycheck and it's a convenient way for him to make money.

13-11-2021 12:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159001#Comment_118159001

I don't see the same comparison. Icke is clearly marketing, marketing, marketing -- selling his products and making millions.

Farage was unknown for 20 years - banging on about the European Union since the early 1990s and making very little in comparison. Had he stayed in business, I'm sure he'd have made much more. Farage believes what he says about the EU and migration.

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 12:39am

One of his company was insolvent and owed back taxes. He wasn't a particularly successful trader. He did okay, but he did nothing in that career to suggest he would be ever making a much money.

Being an MEP was a golden ticket for him, and since he can't be one now, this is what he has to do to make a living.

Annasopra · 13-11-2021 12:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159033#Comment_118159033

Yeah. 😂 Not in it for the money at all 🤣

Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote' | Nigel Farage | The Guardian

Nigel Farage’s funding secrets revealed – Channel 4 News

Inside Nigel Farage’s New Money-Spinning Project – Byline Times

Nigel Farage to get Brexit pay-off as part of £6m ‘golden goodbye’ for British MEPs (politicshome.com)

16 May 2019

Nigel Farage’s funding secrets revealed

Channel 4 News investigation reveals how millionaire Arron Banks spent approximately £450,000 on Nigel Farage to fund lavish lifestyle the year following the EU referendum in summer 2016.

Millionaire insurance tycoon Arron Banks spent close to half a million pounds funding Nigel Farage, who is now the Brexit Party leader.

Mr Banks is currently under investigation by the National Crime Agency over the source of his funding for the Brexit campaign.

However, Nigel Farage claims Mr Banks has never funded The Brexit Party, which was founded in February this year.

An investigation by Channel 4 News reveals:

Mr Banks, through one of his companies, rented exclusive £4.4m Chelsea home for Mr Farage
Gifts included furniture, council tax, water and electricity bills
Banks provided a £30k car and £20k for a driver
Banks also leased private office for £1,500 a month and paid Mr Farage’s personal assistant
Hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent promoting “Brand Farage” in America

A company owned by Mr Banks, called Rock Services Ltd, leased a £4.4m three-bedroom Chelsea home with a garage for Mr Farage at an estimated rent of £13,000 a month in summer 2016.

Mr Banks also bought furniture and fittings for the house, including crockery, chairs and bathroom accessories and even even a shower curtain.

Mr Farage was also provided with a Land Rover Discovery, valued at £32,300, for his use.

Mr Banks paid £20,000 for a close protection driver and sought to raise a further £130,000 from unnamed supporters to cover Mr Farage’s security detail.

The revelations are contained in invoices, emails and other documents seen by Channel 4 News which lay bare Mr Farage’s financial reliance on Arron Banks to fund his lavish lifestyle after he announced he was standing down as UKIP leader following the referendum.

They further reveal that Mr Banks funded a private office space for Mr Farage at 40 Great Smith Street in Westminster, and paid the salary of a personal assistant.

Mr Farage continued to serve as a member of the European Parliament on a salary of €100,000 a year plus expenses.

Trips to America

The documents reveal that Mr Banks, through his companies, organised and funded multiple visits to the United States in the year following the Brexit vote.

In July 2016, Mr Banks flew Mr Farage business class to Cleveland, Ohio to attend the Republican National Convention.

Mr Banks, through Southern Rock, paid an American lobbying firm Goddard Gunster £64,064 for a “Nigel Farage Brexit Policy Luncheon”.

Mr Banks paid an American strategist, Gerry Gunster, through his company Goddard Gunster, to organise the event.

This included paying Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson £11,305.41 to interview Mr Farage at the event.

At the RNC, Mr Farage met Republican Senator Bob Corker and John Bolton, currently serving as Donald Trump’s National Security Advisor. The meetings were coordinated by the American strategy firm.

The following month Mr Farage, Mr Banks and his associate Andy Wigmore flew to Jackson, Mississippi where they were hosted by the Governor Phil Bryant and first introduced to Donald Trump.

Mr Farage also addressed a Trump rally, the first British politician to do so.

In Autumn 2016, Rock Services arranged for Mr Farage and Mr Wigmore to travel to America on multiple occasions, including visits to St Louis, Missouri. The pair also flew to Las Vegas for the presidential debates, and stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel.

Mr Banks, Mr Wigmore and Mr Farage also travelled to New York for election night in November 2016 and stayed at the luxurious Waldorf Astoria Hotel.

Mr Farage was the first British politician to meet the president elect where he was photographed in front of a gold lift at Trump Tower.

At Donald Trump’s inauguration, emails suggest Mr Banks paid more than £15,000 to fly Nigel Farage to and from Washington, approximately £1000 on a room at the plush Mayflower Hotel.

Invoices show Goddard Gunster billed £108,684 for a lavish party in Farage’s honour at the Hay-Adams Hotel.

Business opportunities

Channel 4 News can exclusively reveal that, the day before Mr Farage was photographed with President Trump in Trump Tower, American strategist Gerry Gunster, of Goddard Gunster, proposed capitalising on Farage’s celebrity to establish a new international political consultancy.

Goddard Gunster International would be an “international political powerhouse” which was “uniquely positioned with key executive staff that are closely aligned with the new US administration”.

The organisation would cover “strategy, lobbying, creative services and paid advocacy,” with “counsel provided by Mr Nigel Farage”.

The proposal suggested a 50/50 “division of profits” between Gerry Gunster and Arron Banks, with a “separate agreement with Nigel Farage”.

Mr Gunster and Mr Banks discussed a number of business opportunities and held meetings with prospective clients.

The emails suggest that in December 2016, flights to New York for Nigel Farage costing £10,987 were billed to political strategy firm Goddard Gunster, who arranged meetings between Mr Farage and executives from The Coca-Cola Company.

Emails also shows a Senior Vice President at the company offered to fund a further trip by Mr Farage to Atlanta, Georgia in March 2017 where he attended a “series of engagements”.

The Coca-Cola Company declined to comment.

Mr Farage does not appear to have declared any of the visits funded by third parties to the European Parliament. It is not clear whether he was obliged to declare these costs under EU rules governing members of the European Parliament. Had Mr Farage been a Westminster MP, he would have had to declare the costs.

Mr Farage denies any wrongdoing.

The Brexit Party

Mr Banks is currently under investigation by the National Crime Agency over the source of money used to fund his Leave.EU referendum campaign.

His companies are also subject to an investigation by the Information Commissioner’s Office. Leave.EU has been found to have breached electoral rules and was fined by the Electoral Commission.

Mr Farage has repeatedly denied Mr Banks has made any donations to the Brexit Party, or has any involvement with it.

He has previously refused to name a donor to the party claiming he would be “hounded” if his identity was revealed.

Another donor, Jeremy Hosking, has revealed he donated £200,000 to the group.

Farage has consistently defended Mr Banks, claiming that the allegations surrounding his business deals, his campaign and his relationship with Russia are “unfounded”.

Channel 4 News made repeated requests to Mr Farage for an interview to answer these questions raised by our investigation.

At an event in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday, Mr Farage again refused to answer questions saying: “No comment.”

Mr Gunster declined to provide a statement but claimed our information was “not credible”.

In a statement Mr Banks told us: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel, come at a time when the Brexit Party is riding high in the polls, so it should come as no surprise to anyone.”

Strazdas · 13-11-2021 2:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159033#Comment_118159033

I think his real aim was for the UK to remain in the EU but to pretend to want out. That way he could have carried on for another 20 or 30 years attacking the EU and making angry speeches in the European Parliament. June 23rd, 2016 was a hammer blow to his career....he's never really recovered from it.

tdf7187 · 13-11-2021 3:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158730#Comment_118158730

And also GB News doesnt forcibly demand a lien on all its viewers using threats of criminal sanctions against those who cant afford to pay.

My personal politics are a million miles leftwards of either channel, but, ethically and morally, GB News is superior to the BBC.

13-11-2021 12:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159091#Comment_118159091

Arron Banks is right; the entire spectacle was nothing more than a filthy smear campaign.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 12:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160050#Comment_118160050

A bit like the spectator article that you pounced upon to smear Marcus Rashford?

Whatever happened to that article? Will you ever admit that you were wrong and that your despicable behaviour towards him was in the worst possible taste?

13-11-2021 1:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160143#Comment_118160143

You're entitled to your opinion. I share a different view and there's nothing wrong with that, either.

extra gravy · 13-11-2021 1:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160197#Comment_118160197

You think it's okay to smear Rashford based on your opinion rather than any evidence? And yet, despite the fact that there's ample evidence that Farage is an odious, racist grifter, you conveniently ignore it and defend him because you share the same views. Pathetic.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 1:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160197#Comment_118160197

Are you saying you didn't preach on here when you heard the news about the alleged article?

You trotted out the gist of the article as if it was the gospel and nothing would change your mind, all we heard from you was "we'll see when the article comes out".

The article was never published because it was a hoax, even the spectator haven't doubled down as badly as you have.

How do you go through life NEVER admitting that you are wrong?

13-11-2021 2:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160244#Comment_118160244

I've always found comical the irony of people who, on the one hand say, "...how can you never admit you're wrong?", yet on the other hand are the most radical adherents to their own view and would never admit they are wrong, either.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 2:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160430#Comment_118160430

And EH yet again dodges the salient points of a post.

You swallowed a hoax hook line and sinker, you ran with the lies and maliciously smeared Rashford by likening him to Saville and Epstein. When the article was proven to be a hoax you still refused to admit that you were wrong and even recently doubled down on your accusation with even more disgusting comments and accusations against Rashford.

For those unaware of the hoax here is the story behind how the spectator and its idiot readers fell for it.

https://sunbeamsoutofcucumbers.substack.com/p/what-ever-happened-to-that-spectator

Tony EH · 13-11-2021 2:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160430#Comment_118160430

You're wrong because the data you had on Rashford led you to a wrong conclusion. You believed that a hoax article was going to show him up and it never appeared. But yet you are clinging desperately to your "opinion". An opinion based on nothing but a hoax article and your own miserable attitude toward someone who'll always been a thousand times the person you'll ever be.

13-11-2021 2:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160450#Comment_118160450

My remarks have and always will relate to his Twitter comments on this matter, where he confirmed exactly what I suggested. And my remarks the other day were not "disgusting"; that's a gross exaggeration of what was just anodyne commentary on celebrity life.

Yet again, this is nothing to do with GB News, yet it gets yanked up as if it were.

It's worth noting that GB News has secured new advertising as of late, a break from the boycott period which has since failed. Hopefully this revenue stream continues to grow in the weeks and months ahead.

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 3:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160553#Comment_118160553

David icke has **** all to do with GB news yet you keep bringing him up.

You brought Rashford into the conversation, so sit down and take the sh't when this rightly thrown at you for being so very , very wrong and downright vile in your comments.

You kept saying "og let's see what the spectator says" so you can f*CK right off with your oh it was just what he said on twitter. Even if it was, there was nothing he said that was outrageous, and you still completely miss the point.

Yet your saviour, has charities actively distancing themselves from him because he's a hate stirring pos

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 3:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160553#Comment_118160553

It has everything to do with this thread as YOU were the one who bought it up in here. He confirmed nothing and to this day you have no proof that Rashford has benefitted financially from his charity work. Your remarks and accusations were indeed disgusting and will be here for everyone to see forever more.

As for advertising? Who has been stupid enough to throw money at this shrinking shìt show now?

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 3:12pm

And let's not forget, Farage made an appallingly cheap joke about Saville and Stoke Mandeville in 2015 to show what an utter contemptable c*nt he really is

Penn · 13-11-2021 3:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160553#Comment_118160553

His Twitter comments didn't confirm what you suggested, because you were suggesting he was using his charity work as a way to enhance his own career and public profile, and you were using the upcoming Spectator article to claim it would confirm those allegations. Rashford's tweets were about how his charity work has led to opportunities to increase his charity work (by contributing most of his fee and using his increased profile to further public campaigns for charity).

He made clear in his tweets that any benefits to him are by-products of charity work (which is his primary goal), rather than him using his charity work to increase his public profile.

So his tweets did not confirm exactly what you suggested, you took your own interpretation of them and kept claiming it'd be backed up by the Spectator article when it came out, until it became abundantly clear that the article was never going to come out because it was based on a lie.

You were wrong, and your interpretation of Rashford's charity work is based on your own opinion of him, not backed up by any tangible facts and certainly not confirmed by Rashford in his own tweets.

13-11-2021 3:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160695#Comment_118160695

Here are the facts: Jimmy Saville was awarded an OBE for his mountain of charitable work which advanced his profile. Forget about his crimes, this charity work / OBE is a fact.

Marcus Rashford was awarded an MBE for his mountain of charitable work, for which his profile has been raised, too.

We could go through dozens of others. It's as clear as day to me that high-profile celebrities use charity as a trojan horse to boost their own profile / wealth.

That. Is. A. Fact.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 3:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160736#Comment_118160736

Ignoring your yet again disgusting comparison of Rashford and Saville

How has Rashford's charity work boosted his wealth? Please provide proof for this claim.

Penn · 13-11-2021 3:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160736#Comment_118160736

David Walliams got an OBE for charity work. Annie Lennox got an OBE for charity work. Both David and Victoria Beckham got OBEs for charity work. Gary Linekar got an OBE for charity work.

So firstly, you're intentionally using the most provocative example to draw a link even though there are many better examples you could easily have used (Gary Linekar and David Beckham are footballers, much better example to use, no?). Secondly, you are ascribing a motive which is entirely your own opinion and presenting it as fact. Which it isn't.

And lastly, Saville used his public profile and charity work to sexually abuse children. Rashford has so far used his to raise money for children and try pressure the Government to increase support to poorer children. The link you persistently draw is purposefully derogatory and inflammatory, and you hid behind "We'll have to wait for The Spectator article" until it fell apart. Now you have nothing. You have no evidence, proof or even hint that Rashford is abusing his position in any significant way, not even remotely comparable to that of Saville.

That. Is. Actually. A. Fact. And I've quoted (not paraphrased, quoted) where this is clear in your post:

It's as clear as day to me that high-profile celebrities use charity as a trojan horse to boost their own profile / wealth.

That is your opinion. Not a fact, and not a fact as it relates to Marcus Rashford as you have no evidence to support it.

13-11-2021 3:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160775#Comment_118160775

You're entitled to that opinion.

Your thoughts on GB News recent new advertising sources?

Earlier in this thread, you were one of the most vocal posters who said that GB News had no income stream and was doomed to fail. Now we are seeing that turned on its head.

Ahwell · 13-11-2021 3:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160197#Comment_118160197

The reason you are such a joke figure on this thread is not down to matters of opinion, it's you ignoring facts when they are presented to you and ploughing on regardless. The Rashford hoax is a perfect exemplifier of that, but there are many others. It leaves you with no credibility.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2021 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160782#Comment_118160782

What advertising sources are these?

Penn · 13-11-2021 3:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160782#Comment_118160782

Not an opinion. You have no facts or evidence to support your accusations/insinuations. None. You can't even admit that it's actually just your own opinion, instead throwing out correlation, implying causation and claiming it as fact.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2021 3:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160804#Comment_118160804

How many successful businesses can you name that boast about having reserves to last years because nobody is interested in what they're selling? I can't name any at all.

13-11-2021 3:57pm

It appears that Eamon Holmes is definitely confirmed to join GB News; as he recently Liked a tweet referring to his joining the channel.

13-11-2021 4:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160654#Comment_118160654

Actually, I had to look into this as I hadn't heard of it before.

Farage made a joke about Stoke Mandeville, that "Jimmy Savile and now HS2, Stoke Mandeville has had it all!"

I can understand how some people can find it offensive and somewhat inappropriate (a tiny loud minority), but comedy is comedy: after all, one person's comedy is another person's outrage. That's just the nature of comedy and, because he's not a professional politician, Farage just says whatever comes into his mind.

He's not a Minister who needs to watch every word he says.

To that end, I don't think the joke is anything much to get outraged about. A joke is a joke is a joke. Personally, I find it quite funny.

swampgas · 13-11-2021 4:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160825#Comment_118160825

Jaysus, you're like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. Seriously, have you ever looked into the mirror and thought "Maybe ... I'm holding on too tight to a distorted version of reality, despite the facts, because I REALLY REALLY want my version to be true?"

Personally I've had to update my understanding of how the world works many times, and certainly on topics like abortion/capitalism/Brexit/Trump/Irish Water I've had to learn and adjust, as my predictions go wrong and where my gut feel on something has been miles off target.

I'd rather be wrong, and learn from it, than be wrong and double down on it. How you can keep going with such determination and confidence despite the stacks of proof presented to you proving you wrong, is both impressive and depressing in equal measure.

13-11-2021 4:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160909#Comment_118160909

Well, you said you'd rather be wrong and you've certainly achieved that.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2021 4:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160792#Comment_118160792

Did a google search. Seems the only recent development is Holmes joining GB News.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 4:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160898#Comment_118160898

Well you thought a wife beating racist was funny so I'm not surprised you don't see anything wrong with this.

swampgas · 13-11-2021 4:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160913#Comment_118160913

At least I'm not afraid to admit it! :D

breezy1985 · 13-11-2021 5:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160825#Comment_118160825

Good. One more nutter who will never been seen by the general public again.

The LEFTBLMANTIFABLTLGBTQIWOKE+ imaginary demons in your head don't even need to deploy "cancel culture" to silence people. Just get them a job on GBnews and no one will ever hear them again

L1011 · 13-11-2021 5:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160782#Comment_118160782

Trying to counter facts with the "my opinion" basis doesn't stop the facts being, well, facts

What new ads are these? Do they come close to closing the income to expenditure gap that they appear to be widening with every desperate nee hire and every further BARB drop.

As an aside, is Ruth Langford coming to GBeebies too or is she suffering by the only place willing to hire her nutty husband and co-presenter not needing her?

13-11-2021 6:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118161326#Comment_118161326

I assume that Langsford will remain at ITV due to her presenting role on Loose Women.

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 7:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160898#Comment_118160898

Yeah, nobody found it funny thought. Defense of a bigoted prick. Your mask has long since slipped.

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 7:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118161602#Comment_118161602

So itv are ageist because Eamonn is going. Are they ageist because Ruth (a whole 9 months younger) is still there?

13-11-2021 7:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118161926#Comment_118161926

Speak for yourself; I did - and many others will have, too.

Weepsie · 13-11-2021 9:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118162102#Comment_118162102

Kind of person who found it funny is a scumbag.

Saville was a vile human being, we all know that. It wasn't remotely funny. There's no punchline there at all. It's bottom of the barrel fuckwittery. You find it funny then you're a bottom feeder as far as I'm concerned. But you won't give a ****. You can make baseless claims, offer no proof, say your paraphrasing when it suits and everything else. There's absolutely no point in your posts other than to keep digging and letting the mask slip further.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2021 9:13pm

Anyone else find the alleged new advertisers on GBeebies? I've looked and seen nothing. I take it we've fully departed from reality at this point.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-11-2021 9:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118162409#Comment_118162409

Nope, found nothing and for some strange reason EH ignores EVERY request for information in these so called new advertisers, why if I didn't know any better I would say they don't exist and he is (yet again) lying.

gmisk · 13-11-2021 9:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118160782#Comment_118160782

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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