New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118254170#Comment_118254170

They're not mutually exclusive, though - he can care about himself, whilst also being right about Meghan Markle.

I happen to agree that both are true.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118254239#Comment_118254239

You seem to have missed this so I'll ask again

1: do you think that was a good interview? Farage said nothing is off limits and them proceeded to ask non questions.

2: Why does GBEEBIES have such a hard on for Harry/Megan when the British public don't give a tiny shiny shìte about them?

3: I started watching on YouTube and noticed something funny so switched to the GBEEBIES website to watch live on there. Is the content on the website the exact same as the TV channel?

I only ask because this was supposed to be a world exclusive, the biggest thing to happen on GBEEBIES since its launch, I noticed on every single ad break there wasn't a single advert for any products, every single advert was for other GBEEBIES hosts plugging thier programmes, was there actual product adverts on the TV channel?

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1466093960758190080?t=9z4oMgupyCIuhAbSEHvq0Q&s=19

"Nothing is off limits"... He's some clown. If he was a real journalist and not a snivelling sycophant, he might have asked about Trump's relationship with Epstein. But he sucked him off instead. 14k viewers, what an embarrassment 😂

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118252340#Comment_118252340

I'm sure you'll be in the front row, you seem to have similar views.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118254630#Comment_118254630

If someone wants to spend €120 on a Youtube video that's their business.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118254292#Comment_118254292

1. It was more of a conversation rather than an interview. In that sense, yes, it was a good exchange. Nothing new, I suppose, but nothing bad either.
2. Probably because of the Queen and the Royal Family, and the affinity that those who bend to the right have for the family. They see what Meghan, an American, has done to undermine the institution and they're right to call these things out.
3. If you've started to watch GB News on YouTube, I'll consider that a small but not insignificant success story of this thread.

pjohnson

I'm suprised Trump didnt bring a bigger boost. Are his own cheeeleaders loosing interest in him?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255075#Comment_118255075

Seems to be doing reasonably well on YouTube - and GB News on YouTube gained 5,000 new subscribers (so far) in the past 24-hours.

November data is also very encouraging.

16.6 million YouTube video views throughout the month of November, with a substantial uptick in subscriber numbers - from 13,000 in October to over double that, at 28,000 in November - the first time since June that GB News experienced a respectable uptick.

I predicted this only 2-weeks ago, too.

Furthermore, yesterday, GB News attracted almost 1.8 million views on their YouTube (1 million views higher than the recent average).

It'll be interesting to see the BARB data for all of the above, too.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255116#Comment_118255116

Yeah "youtube views" still arent what you think they are.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255070#Comment_118255070

1: So we agree it wasn't an interview, so I nothing was off limits then why did Farage softball him? I thought GBEEBIES was the institution that would ask the questions others wouldn't?

2: How has Markel "undermined the institution"? Again, no one and I mean NO ONE is talking about Harry/Megan in England/UK, No one cares about them.

3: You claimed GBEEBIES had new advertisers but can't remember who they are or what they are selling, why during what is being hailed as a massive scoop for the station was there not a single advertisement selling a single product? Two whole hours of Farage on what he is claiming to be a world exclusive and the only thing they advertised was thier own presenters. Don't you think it's strange that for those whole two hours they didn't or couldn't sell a single minute of advertising space?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118254239#Comment_118254239

Again, you're missing the point. I couldn't give a monkeys whether he's right, wrong or who he cares/doesn't care about. I also don't give a fiddlers what you think about his opinions.

What I DO care about is him being disrespectful almost every time he opens his mouth, and dishing out barbed insults that are literally designed to inflame people through disrespecting them........and then turning around and hiding behind the veil of "oh she's very disrespectful towards the royal family, that's why I don't like her...the lack of respect".

Ask yourself, do you truly believe that Trump dislikes anyone for their (alleged) lack of respect towards an institution that he himself has publicly shown in the recent past? Because you're more of a sycophant than I thought, if you do. "Drinking the Kool-aid" just doesn't cut it any more.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255174#Comment_118255174

I can't really take someone seriously when they refer to GB News as "GBEEBIES". That kind of childish, schoolyard nickname creation belongs to 15-year olds, not grown adults. It's a bit embarrassing actually.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255174#Comment_118255174

So , all the cost and expense of sending Farage and a film crew to Florida and they can't sell a single second of advertising for the broadcast?

Not a single potential advertiser heard "Nigel Farage with an exclusive interview with Donald Trump" and thought - "That's a show we need to promote our Products/Company on" ?

Given that that will be the "biggest" interview Farage and GB News ever gets that has to be setting off absolutely massive alarm bells for their business plan.

The YouTube revenue for that video will barely cover the cost of Farages flight let alone the rest of crew and the other costs.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255242#Comment_118255242

Another trait of Trump's that you find abhorrent in other people. Does your hypocrisy know no bounds?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255249#Comment_118255249

On that level of live viewers, the ad revenue won't have covered the taxi to the airport.

If we don't see the overnight BARB figures being touted by Guido etc soon, it means they underperformed there too.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255242#Comment_118255242

I suppose that's one way for you to avoid answering the questions, the fact remains, not a single minute of advertising any products during what was probably thier biggest show since thier launch, why do you think they had no product advertised during those two hours?

Timberrrrrrrr

Did anyone else watch the interview? Trumps constant sniffles lead me to believe he did quite a few lines before going on air

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255242#Comment_118255242

But you dont find a channel featuring "Woke Watch" childish.

Hoop66

"That kind of childish, schoolyard nickname creation belongs to 15-year olds, not grown adults."

Sleepy Joe

Lyin' Ted

Low Energy Jeb

Crooked Hilary

Leakin James Comey

Nasty Kamala

Crazy Nancy

Little Marco

Crazy Bernie

Shifty Schiff

Low IQ Maxine

I could, literally, go on. And on and on.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255264#Comment_118255264

Just had a quick look at the YouTube numbers - The two copies of the full interview have about 120k combined views and then they also seem to have split the video up into about a dozen or so "clips" (not being used to pump the view count at all!!) which together have about 50k so far.

So call it 175k views all in so far- Which is worth at most $750 in YouTube revenue so far and could be as little as $50!!!

Figure 5 people in Florida for 3 days minimum , even flying at the back of the bus that is still going to have cost them the thick end of £20k with Hotels , transport & food etc.

So if they manage to have the same volume of incremental views to those videos every single day for the next month or so they might just about break-even, but realistically they probably won't.

noelfirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255264#Comment_118255264

That's it in a nutshell really isn't it - if they have overperformed (probably will) we'll have a Guidonian fart about "SMASHING BBC NEWS", followed by silence for another few weeks until there's another single night where the ratings go up and it's "FARAGE GANGBANGS SKY NEWS AND BBC NEWS" again.

It's all about setting perceptions based on flawed and/or selective data. It's why our protagonist here carps on about Youtube incessantly - it doesn't really matter in the end if it reflects any reality, just as long at the perception is sold.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255423#Comment_118255423

You're missing the point.

Farage, on average, has about 2,000 YouTube Live viewers each day. Lately, his average TV channel viewer count is 150-175,000 people.

That means that YouTube accounts for 1.3% of his total daily views.

Yesterday, a height of 14,500 live viewers was reached - 7x higher than normal for that period. Therefore, the TV channel viewership will also be much, much higher than the 150-175k Farage gets without Trump.

Indeed, Social Blade already report an additional 1,000,000 views extra compared to the recent normal.

ancapailldorcha

Is that all? I've never got an answer to my question of why the almost 14 million people who voted Tory aren't supporting their own special safe space.

The Quintessence Model

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118245909#Comment_118245909

Didn't see the interview, read about in the Guardian, this seems to have been a great summation of the interview based on the Guardian article though.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255483#Comment_118255483

No, you're the one missing the point.

Those 1M additional views is worth maybe £2k in Revenue if their rates are at the upper end of the scale and the absolute failure to sell a single ad slot for the Broadcast channel would suggest that they absolutely are not. His Trump interview will need to hit 20M+ views for them to simply break-even.

To date the most popular video ever on GB News Youtube channel has 1M views.

Farages most popular video has about 350k so he's going to need an awful lot more than the 7X lift you are suggesting might have happened.

Also - Farage is absolutely not averaging 150-175k viewers on TV , that was a single data point for a single day , his average is substantially below that.

The Entire GB News channel gets a total of about 425k viewers a week - as such it's physically impossible for Farage to average 150k+ over 4 nights a week.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255371#Comment_118255371

And don't forget the constant creepy obsession with Markel that GBEEBIES have.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255483#Comment_118255483

And yet they couldn't sell a single second of advertising revenue for that whole two hours, tell us again how great they are doing.

ancapailldorcha

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swampgas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255423#Comment_118255423

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump required the interview team to stay in his hotel at full cost, just like he did with the security service.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255792#Comment_118255792

Without doubt , if they stayed at Mar-a-Lago they were charged the full (wildly over-priced ) rate.

Having said that , they probably stayed at a nearby Super 8 instead.

Appears that the interview last night amassed 208,500 TV channel views and held consistent over a 2-hour period.

Of course, that figure excludes YouTube and GB News website live views, too. The actual figure is therefore more likely to be 300-400,000 total views across all platforms over the 2-hour period.

GB News beat the BBC’s average by 155,600 viewers to their 118,200, with Sky News some distance behind on 60,500.

https://twitter.com/MediaGuido/status/1466382767529287688

ancapailldorcha

The blog masquerading as a source again.

If it's true, what about the other 13.8 million?

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256166#Comment_118256166

The "source" that gives a number 60% less than EH's effort at extrapolation and forecast too.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256166#Comment_118256166

Source = BARB figures.

Unless you are dismissing BARB as a source, then we can dismiss your post accordingly.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256154#Comment_118256154

Barb could post 5 million viewers and the naysayers would still be adamant that nobody is watching.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256154#Comment_118256154

"The actual figure is therefore more likely to be 300-400,000 total views across all platforms over the 2-hour period."

And not a single second of advertising revenue was made, why do you think that was?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256154#Comment_118256154

You estimated 500k, then said that could be a gross underestimate.

So you were wrong, by a factor of over two, in your original estimate and even more wrong in thinking it'd be higher.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256154#Comment_118256154

Appears that the interview last night amassed 208,500 TV channel views and held consistent over a 2-hour period.

Except that's not what the details actually say though..

Figures seen by Guido show the interview pulled in Farage’s highest ever viewer count, and the largest GB News viewership since its original opening night. For two whole hours between 7pm to 9pm, GB News beat the BBC’s average by 155,600 viewers to their 118,200, with Sky News some distance behind on 60,500. The interview reached 208,500 just after 7pm and held steady for the next hour. 

It hit a peak of 208k shortly after the broadcast started and ended the 2hr window with an average of 155k compared to a BBC News average of ~120k.

I assume people watched the actual 30 minute Interview and then switched off and didn't stay to watch the other 90 minutes of padding. because if the 208k number covered some/part of the 1st hour , the 2nd hour was well below 100k to give an overall average of 155k.

So , their biggest ever Interview , the "exclusive of the year" managed to garner an average of 30k viewers more than what the BBC News channel was showing.

For Reference - This is what was on BBC News

• 19:00 to 19:15 - Outside Source
• 19:15 to 20:00 - The Turner Prize (live coverage of the Turner Prize awards)
• 20:00 to 21:00 - Rolling News bulletins

Well, that's that then - GB News have arrived.....I mean, they crushed the Turner Prize presentation ffs.

All that and not a single penny of advertising revenue to show for it either.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256211#Comment_118256211

I was spot on, actually.

TV channel views we now know = 208,500 (unless you believe that BARB is now involved in conspiracy theories with numbers favourable to GB News).

Next, we have YouTube figures.

Here is the data from Social Blade on yesterday's performance:

Note the jump from an average of 900,000 to 1.8 million.

That jump is due to the interview last night.

So, when you factor that figure, with the TV channel views, with the as yet unknown figures of GB News Live viewers and so on, we find that my estimate of up to 500,000 was spot on. How many watched Live on Facebook, too? We haven't factored that in, either.

If the YouTube figures are anything to go by, it was in excess of 500,000.

So no, I wasn't wrong - not in the least.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256202#Comment_118256202

Clearly, I dismissed the blog.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256232#Comment_118256232

You were specifically talking about BARB figures. The BARB figures are less than half of what you had as your low end estimate.

Do you never get embarrassed by your blatant lying? Or your nonsense maths?

@L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118253531#Comment_118253531

No @L1011, I didn't.

I clearly stated (see quote above) that I believed the interview will have attracted hundreds of thousands of live viewers. I also predicted it would break records.

Both of my claims turned out to be true.

Are you willing to show us, via quote, where I allegedly made that claim? Any evidence? Anything!?

To offer a quote:

Do you never get embarrassed by your blatant lying? Or your nonsense maths?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256286#Comment_118256286

You aren't convincing anyone here.

Your half a million estimate was comparing to other BARB figures. That is what you "clearly stated"

Your denials, obfuscations and nonsense maths don't unwrite history.

How are you not embarrassed by doing this, over and over and over again?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256298#Comment_118256298

You've just been proven wrong.

Provide us a single quote where I referred only to BARB figures for my prediction.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256286#Comment_118256286

Care to comment on why there was not a single advert for any products during this historic moment? Not a single penny of ad revenue created, why do you think that was? Why do you keep skipping past this question?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256302#Comment_118256302

Your nonsense maths have never proven anyone wrong, as they are always inherently wrong themselves. But anyway:

Post 7796

You were comparing your estimate to BARB figures - "TV channel viewers"

Please just stop trying to revise history. I know you're going to reply with some nonsensical attempt to explain this away, or simply ignore it though.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256325#Comment_118256325

Just so everyone can clearly see the contents of the post quoted:

The Farage show typically attracts 150,000 viewers in recent days - with 2,000 watching on YouTube Live.

Tonight, Farage attracted up to 14,000 watching live on YouTube; a 7x higher result - so it's not unreasonable to conclude that his TV channel viewers will experience a similar increase.

If anything, my 500,000 figure may turn out to be a gross underestimate.

You could not have quoted a better post - not because you're right, but because you're fantastically wrong.

Isn't this post exactly the same as what I analysed a few short posts above re: YouTube figures combined with TV channel viewers.

I also stated that I didn't know the BARB figures because "it's not unreasonable to conclude that the TV channel viewers will experience a similar increase".

They did increase, quite a lot - over a 2-hour period rather than a standard 1-hour period.

Your blatant misrepresentation and failure to back up your post with evidence is spectacular. You throw out an accusation and then expect it to stick. Well, it doesn't stick. It has fallen embarrassingly flat, and you know it.

The post you quoted is precisely the point I've been making.

And yes, my 500,000 figure was an underestimate (See my previous posts on the figures).

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256347#Comment_118256347

I quoted a post where you specifically referenced BARB figures, put forward the idea that the TV viewership could go up 7x due to the streaming increase (it didn't. Or anywhere close).

You were referencing BARB figures. You made a massive overestimate on those.

Even if we accept that you meant total viewership, just said it so cack-handedly that everyone reading it thinks you meant BARB figures, do you want to go to your even more comical estimate of a 7x increase in TV viewership? Because that was more wrong.

Hoop66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256286#Comment_118256286

First we got:

"Therefore, the TV channel viewership will also be much, much higher than the 150-175k Farage gets without Trump."

So you would say that 208,500 is "much, much higher" than 175,000? That seems a little disingenuous.

Then we got:

"The Farage show typically attracts 150,000 viewers in recent days - with 2,000 watching on YouTube Live.

Tonight, Farage attracted up to 14,000 watching live on YouTube; a 7x higher result - so it's not unreasonable to conclude that his TV channel viewers will experience a similar increase.

If anything, my 500,000 figure may turn out to be a gross underestimate."

Here you are clearly suggesting that there may be 7x more viewers, ie more than your 500,000 estimate.

Not only were your estimates wrong, you have lied about making them in the first place.

That is what you have to do to defend GB News, for whatever reason it is that you feel compelled to do that. Lie and deflect.

@Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256379#Comment_118256379

False.

Because you cannot translate 7x YouTube Live viewers with 7x TV Channel viewers. They are different media.

Hence why I argued that there would be a concomitant, similar increase. @Quin_Dub was right that perhaps 150k a day for Farage is too high, so we can revise that down. In this sense the TV channel viewership was probably 3-4 times normal, which is reasonably similar to a higher 7x turnout for YouTube Live.

And further, I repeatedly stated that my 500,000 figure was the cumulative figure, not the total number of viewers - all from TV alone.

Also worth reminding how convenient everyone is ignoring the below statistic.