New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681600#Comment_117681600

There are at least 3 or 4 posts in the last 2 pages giving details for July. Not sure how you missed them.

The Barb site shows the rolling 4 week average which covers the last week of June and the 1st 3 weeks of July.

The numbers are pretty flat so far , and given that the Farage numbers are in those figures what it would suggest it that outside of the current (short lived in my view) bump that he is providing for a single hour each day, the GB News figures started poorly and have gotten catastrophically worse from there.

Exclude the 100k plus that Farage is bringing for that single hour from the overall averages and there is basically no one watching the channel in real terms

Weepsie

The farage ratings are for that timeslot against Sky and BBC news's? BBC is just a news bulletin for half an hour, and Sky is Dermot Murnaghan for what 2 hours repeating the same story. It would stand to reason that Farage might get more viewers, but the the BBC news bulletin at 10 is getting 2-3 million a night.

You can pick and choose all the figures you want, but in isolation they mean absolutely nothing.

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681591#Comment_117681591

By you. You're doing 1 timeslot v 2 channels in the same slot and ignoring the wider picture.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681738#Comment_117681738

For me, it's morbid curiosity. We get told that echo chambers are bad by people slavishly defending the GB News echo chamber. Of all the hills to choose to die on, this expense-laden, vainglorious, trolling Youtube channel seems a poor choice.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682318#Comment_117682318

False.

Yesterday, I published a video of the political correspondent / presenter, Tom Harwood, tearing asunder Laurence Fox.

This is the kind of destruction that needed to be unleashed on Fox. Other channels have, in my view, been far too relaxed when interviewing him.

If you missed it, here is the controlled demolition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvNn14nWGU

I could give many other examples, too, but this is the most recent and most salient example of what I mean.

This couldn't be further from an echo-chamber.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681591#Comment_117681591

That's not true though. You're relying a single show as proof of it doing well. Meanwhile anyone besides Farage is not drawing in viewers. Ergo it's not doing well.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682517#Comment_117682517

Even your description of the segment is Click-bait hyperbolic youtubey guff.

"Destruction unleashed" , "Controlled demolition" - Seriously?

Someone made a statement and the other person rebutted that statement with their own viewpoint supported by data.

That used to be just called journalism and debate.

However , almost no one saw it though as outside of a nightly blip upwards towards mediocre for an hour when Farage is on , no one is watching GB News.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682517#Comment_117682517

I agree with @Quin_Dub. The language you're promoting here is cringey to be honest. Fox has been taken to task several times but it's only when you can promote GB News here that you highlight it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682898#Comment_117682898

That wasn't the question.

The question was whether GB News was an echo-chamber. I gave you an example - and rather than focus on that and an echo-chamber, you talk about the quality of my language.

Had Tom Harwood fawned over Laurence Fox, you'd never have heard the end of it on here.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683186#Comment_117683186

So, there was an instance of journalism on the channel and I'm supposed to be impressed?

hirondelle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683186#Comment_117683186

So if Harwood took the knee in support of BLM you would be celebrating how it proves GB News is not an echo chamber?

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681591#Comment_117681591

The only "misrepresentations" are coming from you and it's been pointed out to you numerous times, so it's no accidental slip up you're making. With every single post you engage in a dishonest shilling...and for what? Some silly TV channel. Seriously, just hold the horses and think about what your actually doing for a moment.

Irrespective of where one stands on the political aisle, it's always better to remain an honest onlooker at events. But when your politics causes you to be deceitful, then maybe it's time re-examine that politics.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683356#Comment_117683356

That last paragraph applies to you, and every other poster who is an active opponent of GB News.

I suggest re-reading it from a first-person perspective.

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683632#Comment_117683632

Youre the one stating unsubratiate nonsense about Marcus Rashford and tying yourself up in knots to say Widdicombe was misquoted and Davidson is merely a throwback

You've failed to actually response to about 90% percent of the rebukes made to your inane mutterings, and wait for farages daily ratings to pop back in everytime, again wilfully misrepresenting a small subsection of a larger dataset to basically lie about whatever point you are making.

On GBnews, as I've not talked about it much. It's just a badly put together production. I'm not it's audience, but I don't think it knows what it audience is and it's going to have to figure it out soon or go out of existence.

Newsmax in the US started off vaguely similar and is now struggling so GB news may yet go the same way

Timberrrrrrrr

What hard hitting "guest" does Farage have on tonight?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683632#Comment_117683632

The hysterics again from someone who trots out accusations of racism while almost certainly berating "the left" for allegedly doing the same thing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683689#Comment_117683689

Farage is only on Monday to Thursday.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683707#Comment_117683707

The problem is that for every one time a Conservative legitimately uses the word racism, the Left inappropriately use the word twenty-five times.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683734#Comment_117683734

So todays figures should give you a better idea of wether it's a success, are numbers up for one hour due to Farage or are the numbers up for the whole channel.

Rawr

Couldn't help myself :D The thread just kept reminding me of this meme.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683632#Comment_117683632

I'd suggest you read it again and perhaps pause long enough to take it onboard.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683632#Comment_117683632

Did you cut and paste that or actually type it without paying attention to it? Some of the stuff you have posted here are like a Brendan O'Neil Spiked article.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683740#Comment_117683740

Evidence please.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681738#Comment_117681738

Its like a pack of rabid dogs after a fox.

The same usual petty suspects literally trying to bully people into accepting their propaganda and opinion as fact.

Cancel all dissenting opinions, attack attack with personal insults.

Repeat adnauseum.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683979#Comment_117683979

This was dreary and overdone the first time you said it. Repeating it dozens of times hasn't altered that.

Is there anything you'd like to say about GB News that isn't some sort of victimhood or persecution fantasy?

ancapailldorcha

Brexit but equally applicable here:

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684003#Comment_117684003

Its ok for you and your cohorts to repeat the same propaganda over and over though.

Give it a rest.

Its time to repopulate the ignore list, it seems to have been reset after the changeover.

bewareofthedog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684012#Comment_117684012

It's really no surprise the way the politics forum ended up the way it did, especially considering your previous statements such as calling conservatism a totally false belief system or something equivalent.

In your mind anyone believing in something politically that you don't agree with isn't worth the time of day, so what's the point in conversing with you at all?

Timberrrrrrrr

Jaysus the GB "news" snowflakes are out in force this evening :D

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684039#Comment_117684039

If you have to resort to insults, you don't have an argument.

bewareofthedog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684179#Comment_117684179

Says the lad posting memes about Brexit voters. You have some balls crying the victim after calling conservatism a worthless ideology and belief system whilst moderating the politics forum. Maybe you're getting bolder now since the website is dying that you don't have to hide your true face anymore.

ancapailldorcha

The meme was about GB News. I specifically stated this.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684215#Comment_117684215

Its not just conservatism that was berated.

The Old, Christians, Mainstream American Right (Nazis), Anti lockdown protesters all came in for special treatment.

Conservatism is a worthless and dead ideology

Old people are the most privileged people that have ever existed in society. We've literally crashed the global economy for them and they still insist on voting in trash like Johnson and Trump

Fortunately so as there turned out to be a gathering of human refuse stamping their feet and spewing their bile.

There's no such thing as principled bigotry. If Christians had a shred of principle they'd be consistent but they only perk up when they can inflict suffering on others.

Funny how Christians only seem to care about the parts of their faith that justify their abuse of other people.

It was the mainstream American right who were waving swastikas in January at the Capitol as I recall.

How can someone so biased be a politics moderator, its preposterous.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683979#Comment_117683979

Do you think disagreeing with someone, and pointing that out equates to bullying?

Interesting view of someone who spends time on a discussion forum.

I know for a fact that Eskimohunt will not change their mind. If GB news does disappear, than so too will the thread and many contributors may do so also at that time. We saw it with the US election last year when the day of it being announced for Biden coincided with the disappearance of many posters who had been fighting hard to show support for Trump up to that point and claiming it was a dead cert he was going to win and rightly so in their view. All the time while saying they were being persecuted on those threads also.

Do you remember those threads? Pretty sure you fit the bill of one of those who had to take some time off to recover when reality hit.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684012#Comment_117684012

please tell me that pic of farage and widdicombe is a photoshop. Do they have no shame?

ancapailldorcha

It's weird that the defenders of GB News keep quoting that post but never actually engage with it.

Anyway, I just threw a few bob to the RNLI since the intellectual heavyweights of GB News set their sights on them.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684317#Comment_117684317

It's edited.

Original here:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/24/18/12670464-0-image-a-35_1556126650600.jpg

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684277#Comment_117684277

I love the faux outrage and the constant bringing up of him being a mod in politics as if that matters a jot to the discussion being held here.

nj27

I subbed to GB news, found it awful. Show ain't baste B! I am essentially a melodramatic parody of an alt right demon with aids etc, but this channel is not going to work out for me. It stinks and I don't like it. Taking the partisan hat off for a moment, most of the hosts are devoid of both personality and intellectual credibility. I can't imagine they have any background in classics or European literature or philosophy, plus their delivery comes off as a "hey we're all in on this, right?" type wink. I think it is a good business decision ultimately, the audience is out there and they'll make a few quid, but it shouldn't outrage anyone because it is about as leftwing as anything else. It is an ultra cucked, shabbos goy, waste of space. It ain't what some people think it ain't be, but it do be.

ancapailldorcha

Absolute legends:

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1421428519796723716

astrofool

Isn't it a weird world where the target of a TV channels anger seems to be people working on rescue boats and a footballer who's trying to stop child food poverty.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686499#Comment_117686499

But bigots and racists are lauded as good people.

PopePalpatine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686503#Comment_117686503

It's because of what they do to the people their marks hate.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686431#Comment_117686431

You may very well get a momentary feeling of satisfaction from but believe me it's going to backfire.

I note in the US the trend from the Left to target companies for poor diversity records and so on so it's seems if anyone is importing American style politics to western Europe it's the Lefties.

All this will do is further promote GBNews at a time when you'd think you'd want to give it as little attention as possible so it would sink.

Also it will give more attention to the whole subject of the refugee channel crisis, the very thing GBNews said it wanted to do i.e. discuss topics the msm didn't want to discuss.

You may very well think attacking these companies in this way is a good idea but I'm certain it's not going to go down well with the general UK public at all. And it does't look like those behind this are as confidant as some here are that the channel will fail, rather they are actively trying to bring that about.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117687706#Comment_117687706

Yeah, it was the left that were posting videos of themselves burning their Nike shirts when it came out that they had continued to hire Kapaernick. And the left who lost their sh*t over Gillette running an ad suggesting men could be morally upstanding. And the left who to this day post incessantly on Twitter and other platforms that they are no longer watching anything whether it is the NFL, or MLB, or NBA or the Olympics or soccer when the organisations, teams or players do even the remotest thing that causes the 'Free Market' screamers to get their panties in a knot.

You, like you're conservative colleagues are once again adhering to the old adage of 'accuse others of that which you are guilty' Some do it to dilute their own actions, others probably because they are too stupid to realise the hypocrisy of their words.

In relation to the importing of the US style of politics, Farage literally went campaigning for Trump... On top of that, having Cruz on seems like a pretty clear sign of what they're aiming for.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117687825#Comment_117687825

As for the first paragraph I have no clue about those things. I have a vague recollection of the Gillette thing and it strikes me as stereotypically wokey weird. Was it targeted at right wing men because all left wing men are already morally upstanding aren't they.

As for the second you seem be in agreement with my assessment as if you weren't you're hypocrisy argument wouldn't hold up.

As for your too stupid to realize comment, that's just a spineless trick to avoid moderation. Attack the post not the poster so attack someone like the poster instead. Maybe you thought that I was too stupid to realize that is the tactic of the clean shaven morally upstanding kindhearted empathetic lefties on this thread.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117688167#Comment_117688167

'As for your too stupid to realize comment, that's just a spineless trick to avoid moderation. Attack the post not the poster so attack someone like the poster instead. Maybe you thought that I was too stupid to realize that is the tactic of the clean shaven morally upstanding kindhearted empathetic lefties on this thread.'

You're the one suggesting this was aimed specifically at you. That's telling.

MisterAnarchy

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1422197220573687813

Looks like GB News wont be shutting down anytime soon.

There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the naysayers on here with this truly awful news.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117695693#Comment_117695693

Growing? Or trying to replace the people who have left?