New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Joe_ Public

Same reason i have a flick through the times and telegraph most days. Not much I'll agree with, plenty that will make my blood boil, but it's supposed to be a good thing to engage with opposite sides, no? Else we stick with our own tried and trusted and get accused of living in an echo chamber so, either way, you can't really win.

The other thing is mere idle curiosity, Andrew Neil is a heavyweight of the UK media landscape, among other things, so why wouldn't anyone with more than a cursory interest in UK politics and culture want to check this latest offering out? I'm sure they can and will improve things but my stand out impression of the stuff i watched last night was of how cheap and dull it came across.

Annasopra

Annasopra wrote: »

So worth a watch you get his name wrong

Andrew Doyle is another presenter on the station, along with Andrew Neil.

Joe_ Public

Joe_ Public wrote: »

The other thing is mere idle curiosity, Andrew Neil is a heavyweight of the UK media landscape, among other things, so why wouldn't anyone with more than a cursory interest in UK politics and culture want to check this latest offering out? I'm sure they can and will improve things but my stand out impression of the stuff i watched last night was of how cheap and dull it came across.

...because of woke arrogance that says they know everything they need to know, and nothing more.

Coupled with their obsession with using the phrase "right wing" to describe and dismiss anything they disagree with - as if "right wing" is somehow a bad thing.

Faugheen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Coupled with their obsession with using the phrase "right wing" to describe and dismiss anything they disagree with - as if "right wing" is somehow a bad thing.

Similar to how right wingers use ‘woke lefty’ as a slur for people they disagree with, as if left wing is somehow a bad thing.

Of course people who are right wing are the only victims though.

Faugheen

Faugheen wrote: »

Similar to how right wingers use ‘woke lefty’ as a slur for people they disagree with, as if left wing is somehow a bad thing.

Of course people who are right wing are the only victims though.

Woke is not synonymous with being on the Left of politics. Many of those who reside on the centre-left, for example, would not be subscribers to what is known as wokeism.

So the comparison fails, spectacularly.

Faugheen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Woke is not the same as Lefty. Many of those who reside on the centre-left, for example, would not be subscribers to what is known as wokeism.

So the comparison fails, spectacularly.

Not at all. You can try worm your way out of it but the right-left wing nonsense works both ways.

eskimohunt

eskimohunt wrote: »

Woke is not synonymous with being on the Left of politics. Many of those who reside on the centre-left, for example, would not be subscribers to what is known as wokeism.

Like me.

ELM327

Just stuck it on there for a watch. I generally have sky news on in the background while working so it's an interesting change.

My initial take is that there's some face recognition with the guy in the studio but the quality is awful. There's a slight misalignment between picture and audio.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

How long before the start interviewing Tommy Robinson?

grassylawn

What an ugly bunch. I thought they'd have lots of leggy women in mini-dresses like Fox News do. There seems to be some antipathy towards physical attractiveness in the psyche of the British wing-nut.

RWCNT

grassylawn wrote: »

What an ugly bunch. I thought they'd have lots of leggy women in mini-dresses like Fox News do. There seems to be some antipathy towards physical attractiveness in the psyche of the British wing-nut.

Not that it's relevant in assessing the calibre of a news channel, but Mercy Muroki is ridiculously beautiful.

grassylawn

RWCNT wrote: »

Not that it's relevant in assessing the calibre of a news channel, but Mercy Muroki is ridiculously beautiful.

It's relevant in assessing the calibre of this sort of channel though. They're going for all indignation and forgetting to mix in titillation.

Their viewers will get anger fatigue, instead of being able to switch back and forth between that and ****.

Nigel Farage just retweeted the latest statistics - and it seems GB News came out on top (Farage appeared at 9.45pm last night).

GB News is here to stay. About time we had a right of centre channel to add much needed balance to the tilted UK news landscape.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1404363689025847296

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

grassylawn wrote: »

It's relevant in assessing the calibre of this sort of channel though. They're going for all indignation and forgetting to mix in titillation.

Their viewers will get anger fatigue, instead of being able to switch back and forth between that and ****.

But hiring ugly birds would be inclusive and they can't have that.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nigel Farage just retweeted the latest statistics - and it seems GB News came out on top (Farage appeared at 9.45pm last night).

GB News is here to stay. About time we had a right of centre channel to add much needed balance to the tilted UK news landscape.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1404363689025847296

Id fully expect them to be in to at leady until the novelty factor wears off.

After that is when it gets interesting.

You can fool all of the people some of the time or...

archfi

Annasopra wrote: »

So worth a watch you get his name wrong

Pardon me?
I doubt you'll reply.

That stuff about the looks is as vile as what you'd hear from any right-wing misogynist. Also, plenty looked very well to me.

Faugheen

Faugheen wrote: »

Not at all. You can try worm your way out of it but the right-left wing nonsense works both ways.

Really?

Is that why a self-professed centre-left poster agreed with me:

Lurleen wrote: »

Like me.

paw patrol

Faugheen wrote: »

as if left wing is somehow a bad thing.

.

..but it is...

Tony EH

eskimohunt wrote: »

Woke is not synonymous with being on the Left of politics.

Correct, it isn't. In fact, I'd argue that the majority of this "woke" crowd wouldn't be able to muster an argument for a left wing ideal if their life depended on it. They are usually molly coddled middle classers that have latched onto some cause-de-jour and that's usually about it.

However, that doesn't stop those on the right from using the term as a pejorative against "the left" at every opportunity.

Kewreeuss

eskimohunt wrote: »

Nigel Farage just retweeted the latest statistics - and it seems GB News came out on top (Farage appeared at 9.45pm last night).

GB News is here to stay. About time we had a right of centre channel to add much needed balance to the tilted UK news landscape.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1404363689025847296

Well of course they came out tops!!
Everyone tuned in to see what it was like.
Come back in a few months time when everything has settled down. It also depends how right of right it goes.

Tony EH

Tony EH wrote: »

Correct, it isn't. In fact, I'd argue that the majority of this "woke" crowd wouldn't be able to muster an argument for a left wing ideal if their life depended on it. They are usually molly coddled middle classers that have latched onto some cause-de-jour and that's usually about it.

However, that doesn't stop those on the right from using the term as a pejorative against "the left" at every opportunity.

I agree, but I do try to make the distinction between the cancer of wokeism versus moderate Leftism.

What we need is a return to sensible and pragmatic Blairism, and leave all this neo-Marxism and Wokeism behind.

Though I say this as a disciple of the Right.

Tony EH

eskimohunt wrote: »

I agree, but I do try to make the distinction between the cancer of wokeism versus moderate Leftism.

What we need is a return to sensible and pragmatic Blairism, and leave all this neo-Marxism and Wokeism behind.

Though I say this as a disciple of the Right.

Well, this is where we'll find much disagreement. Blairism is a cancer too. It's very much a neo-Liberal model and something I would find pretty repulsive about modern politics in general.

Tony EH

Tony EH wrote: »

Well, this is where we'll find much disagreement. Blairism is a cancer too. It's very much a neo-Liberal model and something I would find pretty repulsive about modern politics in general.

Not Blairism of the late 90s or early 2000s.

But what you might call neo-Blairism; a centre-left moderate, pragmatic approach that meets the political needs of the Britain of today. And preferably a form of Blairism that embraces Brexit and the Old Left vote they left behind.

The anti-Capitalist brand of Leftism will never fly in the UK. It is futile to try, as Corbyn has managed to do.

Tony EH

eskimohunt wrote: »

Not Blairism of the late 90s or early 2000s.

But what you might call neo-Blairism; a centre-left moderate, pragmatic approach that meets the political needs of the Britain of today. And preferably a form of Blairism that embraces Brexit and the Old Left vote they left behind.

The anti-Capitalist brand of Leftism will never fly in the UK. It is futile to try, as Corbyn has managed to do.

Neither Tony Blair nor the "Blairites" would have truly embraced Brexit. Blairism heavily coincides with the EU's own Neo-Liberal attitudes.

Also, there is no real "anti-Capitalist" Left anywhere these days. Certainly nothing approaching the levers of power. The vast majority of the Left have long since realised that Capitalism is an integral part of any nation's economic systems and they operate more in a Social Democrat sphere than the 19th Century caricature they are often painted as.

However, it's the rampant, laissez fare Capitalism that most on the Left (and some on the Right too) would be firmly against. The likes of "too big to fail" concepts would, quite rightly, gain the ire of most of those on the Left. For obvious reasons. Capitalism needs to be controlled if society is to get the best out of it and without that control, it only ends up benefiting the very few at the expense of the many.

Anyway, we're way off topic here.

AllForIt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQGsiZB4dQ

I'm a bit disaponted it's not an actual rolling news channel. It would have been intersteing to contrast thier output to Sky and BBC, i.e. what stories they would lead with, include or omit, and how they would spin a news event in compariston to the other stations.

If it's all just group discussion and interviews then I think It's something I'd only dip into now and again. Only so much of that I can take and it's a bit time consuming.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Tony EH wrote: »

Correct, it isn't. In fact, I'd argue that the majority of this "woke" crowd wouldn't be able to muster an argument for a left wing ideal if their life depended on it. They are usually molly coddled middle classers that have latched onto some cause-de-jour and that's usually about it.

However, that doesn't stop those on the right from using the term as a pejorative against "the left" at every opportunity.

This is it - you get these morons that use 'left' as if it meant something negative, while at the same time wouldn't be and to define a realistic left-wing policy without going to extremes or being condescending about it to save their lives.

They're just as ignirant as the woke crowd.

suicide_circus

They set and sound need some work

suicide_circus

Cant find it on me telly....

paw patrol

paw patrol wrote: »

..but it is...

Leftwing is no worse than right-wing.

Far left/right or extreme left/right is another story.