Three Ireland 5G

Kenny Powers

Looks like Three are about to launch 5G, I can't find any reference to the 5G bill pay plans or the 5G pre pay booster but it's all mentioned in the link below and also 5G coverage.

https://www.three.ie/coverage-checker/

Dempo1

Kenny Powers wrote: »

Looks like Three are about to launch 5G, I can't find any reference to the 5G bill pay plans or the 5G pre pay booster but it's all mentioned in the link below and also 5G coverage.

https://www.three.ie/coverage-checker/

Not sure we're you heard this from but by all accounts it will be mid 2021, there's Zero Demand and if networks are still struggling to get 4g reliable, you'd wonder why bother with 5g. Ironc that today 3 had a major outage and blamed 5g upgrade as the cause, absolute nonsense of course.

Kenny Powers

Dempo1 wrote: »

Not sure we're you heard this from but by all accounts it will be mid 2021, there's Zero Demand and if networks are still struggling to get 4g reliable, you'd wonder why bother with 5g. Ironc that today 3 had a major outage and blamed 5g upgrade as the cause, absolute nonsense of course.

It's all in that coverage link on their website

touts

Kenny Powers wrote: »

Looks like Three are about to launch 5G, I can't find any reference to the 5G bill pay plans or the 5G pre pay booster but it's all mentioned in the link below and also 5G coverage.

https://www.three.ie/coverage-checker/

The Covid work from home issue has woken most people up to the fact that the National Broadband Plan isn't fit for purpose so I'd say anyone offering 5g Mobile Broadband in the next few weeks and months will hoover up customers from traditional landlines.

Dempo1

Kenny Powers wrote: »

It's all in that coverage link on their website

Yes on "Their" website, these are planned roll out areas but 3 have not even switched on their limited 5g service, there is no plans to launch imminently, they initially put it off for a year at the end of 2019, and with what's going on in the world, it will be at least 2021. You correctly mention no current 5g plans available, it's really a waiting game. It's highly unlikely when launched it will be on prepay, only more expensive contract plans. As it stands they only sell approx 4 handsets that have 5g capability.

Kenny Powers

Dempo1 wrote: »

Yes on "Their" website, these are planned roll out areas but 3 have not even switched on their limited 5g service, there is no plans to launch imminently, they initially put it off for a year at the end of 2019, and with what's going on in the world, it will be at least 2021. You correctly mention no current 5g plans available, it's really a waiting game. It's highly unlikely when launched it will be on prepay, only more expensive contract plans. As it stands they only sell approx 4 handsets that have 5g capability.

Screen shot as per link 5G Bill Pay Plans mentioned along with 3Pay 5G Booster.

Dempo1

Kenny Powers wrote: »

Screen shot as per link 5G Bill Pay Plans mentioned along with 3Pay 5G Booster.

Again prepority information, try and order a 5g plan, this will confirm, none available, or call 1913 to confirm same, they might give you a date but I doubt it

Kenny Powers

Dempo1 wrote: »

Again prepority information, try and order a 5g plan, this will confirm, none available, or call 1913 to confirm same, they might give you a date but I doubt it

👠wait and see

KildareP

Kenny Powers wrote: »

👠wait and see

Good spot! Price guide has been updated today with reference to 5G:
https://www.three.ie/legal/pricing/files/Bill_Pay_Price_Guide_Sept2020.pdf

Included on their €60 and €80 plans or €5 extra on all others (including prepay).

DopeTech

KildareP wrote: »

Good spot! Price guide has been updated today with reference to 5G:
https://www.three.ie/legal/pricing/files/Bill_Pay_Price_Guide_Sept2020.pdf

Included on their €60 and €80 plans or €5 extra on all others (including prepay).

I wonder how long before they incide it at no extra cost like when 4g was launched.

Kenny Powers

From Three -
Going live shortly Add On is 5e for 28day Prepay Booster and 5e for SIM Only.


"Yes. these 5G products are available to you today – to work they must be used with a 5G Capable device and they require your place of regular use to be in a 5G area so we also have a 5G coverage checker online also. We are getting these 5G Products system ready. There will be even more detail around the 5G Technology rollout from Three very shortly."

KildareP

I would hope WiFi Calling and VoLTE are coming soon as well

Dempo1

Kenny Powers wrote: »

From Three -
Going live shortly Add On is 5e for 28day Prepay Booster and 5e for SIM Only.


"Yes. these 5G products are available to you today – to work they must be used with a 5G Capable device and they require your place of regular use to be in a 5G area so we also have a 5G coverage checker online also. We are getting these 5G Products system ready. There will be even more detail around the 5G Technology rollout from Three very shortly."

I've just finished my humble breakfast pie. I spoke at length to colleagues working for 3 retail and not a single one had been informed of this developing news. It remains to be seen if this is just a marketing or deflection ploy after yesterday's major outage, 3 are sadly known for this. They had announced, at least a year before launch. Its noteworthy only 35% country coverage and as such how would it be possible to offer 5g contracts on this basis.

Watch this space, will be interesting if they do as claim, to offer access and plans from today.

I stand humbly corrected but remain sceptical, especially when 3 haven't even communicated this news with its own staff.

Dempo1

Mr.S wrote: »

We have 3 Corporate plans in work, our rep knew it was going this week. Not exactly secret business. Fairly big PR story sent out also.

€5 extra (or free) seems like a fair price for early adoption, no doubt it will become standard later on.

With iPhone's taking 5G from next month, demand will begin to pick up for 5G.

It will be very interesting if 3 offer 5g on corporate /affin accounts as they are already heavily discounted, just re iPhones taking 5g, what do you mean by this? I thought the iPhone model had to 5g compatible? Just curious.

KildareP

References now being added across their site for 5G:
https://www.three.ie/plans/sim-only/bill-pay/
https://www.three.ie/5g/

Kenny Powers

Official now and live, Three.ie also updated

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/three-ireland-switches-on-5g-network-around-the-country-1.4366332

Dempo1

All you need now is a 5g phone, €4.92 add on not bad in fairness.

KildareP

They've nearly all of where I work, rest and play with 5G coverage showing.

Good damn you Three and you too Apple with your upcoming iPhone 5G launch you could hurt my pocket very soon :pac:

thegills

touts wrote:

The Covid work from home issue has woken most people up to the fact that the National Broadband Plan isn't fit for purpose so I'd say anyone offering 5g Mobile Broadband in the next few weeks and months will hoover up customers from traditional landlines.

Unless your house is in a City centre you won't get 5G for a long time

Double O Seven

I'm still waiting for 3 & 4 g

Heraldoffreeent

€5 addon doesn't seem to be available for the old €20 threepay plan which means having to migrate to the new plans and lose the capability to keep your credit rolling over.

Kenny Powers

Couple of speed tests attached, good coverage in the city center and along the M50 testing done inside car.

Quackster

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

€5 addon doesn't seem to be available for the old €20 threepay plan which means having to migrate to the new plans and lose the capability to keep your credit rolling over.

You'd expect it not to be available on any legacy plans. IIRC, all the networks followed this approach when introducing 4G.

circadian

Kenny Powers wrote: »

Couple of speed tests attached, good coverage in the city center and along the M50 testing done inside car.

Nice, those are great speeds but I do wonder what it'll be like when the contention ratio changes and there's more uptake. I'm with Three on the old prepay plan and I can't fault it for what it is but I will say that there are definitely network saturation spots where bandwidth is low.

Heraldoffreeent

circadian wrote: »

Nice, those are great speeds but I do wonder what it'll be like when the contention ratio changes and there's more uptake. I'm with Three on the old prepay plan and I can't fault it for what it is but I will say that there are definitely network saturation spots where bandwidth is low.

I'm on that plan also for 4g, I'm mainly based in D1 and D2 for work and living, I'm getting between 120 Megs and 310 Megs on it, they did an upgrade to the network about 10 months ago and it's fantastic. I'm also using a 48 sim in these areas the last week or so and its been the same..

Heraldoffreeent

Quackster wrote: »

You'd expect it not to be available on any legacy plans. IIRC, all the networks followed this approach when introducing 4G.

3 introduced 4g on that plan at no extra cost. I think initially it was introduced for 6 months or something, and they just kept rolling it on. I'd happily pay the extra 5er on top if I could keep the credit, but it's hard to know how they make money if I'm using up my credit buying Audio books and supscriptions etc.

Quackster

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

3 introduced 4g on that plan at no extra cost. I think initially it was introduced for 6 months or something, and they just kept rolling it on. I'd happily pay the extra 5er on top if I could keep the credit, but it's hard to know how they make money if I'm using up my credit buying Audio books and supscriptions etc.

Yeah, because that was their current prepay plan at the time. I'm specifically talking about legacy plans unavailable to new signups at the time 4G (and now 5G) was introduced.

From their perspective, it's a sensible move using 5G as a carrot to tempt customers of legacy plans to switch to one of their current plans.

Heraldoffreeent

Quackster wrote: »

Yeah, because that was their current prepay plan at the time. I'm specifically talking about legacy plans unavailable to new signups at the time 4G (and now 5G) was introduced.

From their perspective, it's a sensible move using 5G as a carrot to tempt customers of legacy plans to switch to one of their current plans.

Ah, got you now. Yeah, I'm looking at moving one of my plans over to the new regime specifically for that reason.

In fairness to them, 3's launch is a much better value proposition than eir or Voda.

j14

I live in Lucan and Three have said 5G is not available at my address. Looking at the coverage map on the website none of the houses in my housing estate have 5G coverage.

1huge1

Three do have a 5G enabled mast in the centre of Lucan as far as I can see,

https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/DU0984/53.3559002864/-6.4508275616/1/Site%20DU0984

Not sure how close you are to that.

beer enigma

I got their text yesterday saying that 5G was now live & picked it up on the outskirts of Cork City at lunchtime...happy days !

Heraldoffreeent

beer enigma wrote: »

I got their text yesterday saying that 5G was now live & picked it up on the outskirts of Cork City at lunchtime...happy days !

What speeds are you seeing?

j14

1huge1 wrote: »

Three do have a 5G enabled mast in the centre of Lucan as far as I can see,

https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/DU0984/53.3559002864/-6.4508275616/1/Site%20DU0984

Not sure how close you are to that.

I'm exactly 2km from there and according to Three 5G will not be available at my address nor most of my neighbours.

Kenny Powers

Another speed test this evening approximately 500M from mast stationery outside.

Rattlehead_ie

Kenny Powers wrote: »

Another speed test this evening approximately 500M from mast stationery outside.

Think you need to stop running speedtests, you are killing the rest of the 3 network :D:D
https://downdetector.ie/status/3/

beer enigma

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

What speeds are you seeing?

I got 390 but it dropped after a while so guessing they were testing

chris_ie

Is that comreg siteviewer up to date? I was checkin my parents house and Three shows 5G coverage, there is a mast up the hill behind them but not showing as 5G (NR?), tried other masts around but couldn't find any with NR.

borygo77

Kenny Powers wrote: »

Another speed test this evening approximately 500M from mast stationery outside.

What's the name of this speedtest Kenny?

Kenny Powers

borygo77 wrote: »

What's the name of this speedtest Kenny?

I'm using nPerf and doing some mapping etc also

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nperf.tester

ED E

chris_ie wrote: »

Is that comreg siteviewer up to date? I was checkin my parents house and Three shows 5G coverage, there is a mast up the hill behind them but not showing as 5G (NR?), tried other masts around but couldn't find any with NR.

To the minute? No. Usually within a month or two of the current would be my impression.

long_b

Silly question, but no reason to expect 5G coverage in places where 4G doesn't currently reach, right? Or have they added a rake of new masts too?

KildareP

long_b wrote: »

Silly question, but no reason to expect 5G coverage in places where 4G doesn't currently reach, right? Or have they added a rake of new masts too?

Unlikely.

Any of the 5G-ready masts have had work done to them over the last 12-18 months to enable 4G+, if they hadn't got it already.

5G tends to need upgraded backhaul so it wouldn't make sense to add 5G without upgrading the backhaul and in turn it wouldn't make sense to go to that effort and not enable 4G as well.

They upgraded a whole cluster of cells over a large kilometre radius around home (boglands of Kildare) in the last 12 months that were previously 3G only to 4G+ and which now show as serving 5G on their coverage map.

lankz92

Apparently i can get 5g. Out in thr country but fairly close to a small town. Can see the nearest mast from my window so fingers crossed that one was done, but id think it was the one in town about 3km away.

Got a sim in a router. Up till about a month ago i could pull 15mb on 3g 24/7. 4g would be about 60-80mb off peak. Drop to around 5mb in the evenings so i just left it in 3g mode 90% of the time. The last 3-4 weeks im lucky to get 5mb on either at any time, assume because of works, but now im thinking its a ploy to get people to buy 5g devices lol.

Eithet way when the news came out monday and i seen i had coverage on the map i ordered a 5g router straight away. Should be here today or tomorrow. I shall report back with speeds when i get it up and running.

Heraldoffreeent

lankz92 wrote: »

Apparently i can get 5g. Out in thr country but fairly close to a small town. Can see the nearest mast from my window so fingers crossed that one was done, but id think it was the one in town about 3km away.

Got a sim in a router. Up till about a month ago i could pull 15mb on 3g 24/7. 4g would be about 60-80mb off peak. Drop to around 5mb in the evenings so i just left it in 3g mode 90% of the time. The last 3-4 weeks im lucky to get 5mb on either at any time, assume because of works, but now im thinking its a ploy to get people to buy 5g devices lol.

Eithet way when the news came out monday and i seen i had coverage on the map i ordered a 5g router straight away. Should be here today or tomorrow. I shall report back with speeds when i get it up and running.

What Router did you order?

padair

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

What Router did you order?

Also interested in this.

lankz92

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

What Router did you order?

Huawei h112-370... wasnt exactly cheap lol


Cheapest option iv seen is netgear at about £250, but it has a 4g and 5g version so i didnt want to end up with the wrong one. The huawei was £300 used on ebay.

padair

lankz92 wrote: »

Huawei h112-370... wasnt exactly cheap lol


Cheapest option iv seen is netgear at about £250, but it has a 4g and 5g version so i didnt want to end up with the wrong one. The huawei was £300 used on ebay.

Thanks, let us know how you get on with it

Heraldoffreeent

lankz92 wrote: »

Huawei h112-370... wasnt exactly cheap lol


Cheapest option iv seen is netgear at about £250, but it has a 4g and 5g version so i didnt want to end up with the wrong one. The huawei was £300 used on ebay.

Yeah, they're not cheap. Was looking at that one and the CPE Pro 2,HUAWEI 5G CPE Pro2 Router H122-373 , which has slightly higher throughput.

Amazon have it at about €440
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-CPE-Pro2-Router-H122-373/dp/B08BX4YYPJ/ref=asc_df_B08BX4YYPJ/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=428082306939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2381171488914913052&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20490&hvtargid=pla-932863358386&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=99265839283&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=428082306939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2381171488914913052&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20490&hvtargid=pla-932863358386

Saw it on Sotel for about €409
https://www.sotel.de/en/Handy-Tablet/Surfsticks-MiFi/Telekom-Huawei-5G-CPE-Pro2-white-0050.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw_NX7BRA1EiwA2dpg0n7MeHNs1lLZ1Fe3HjI171-cI-pCx4XmZd3W6o3iStvOgKaCnA-1hBoCjX0QAvD_BwE&cur=0

padair

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

Yeah, they're not cheap. Was looking at that one and the CPE Pro 2,HUAWEI 5G CPE Pro2 Router H122-373 , which has slightly higher throughput.

Amazon have it at about €440
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-CPE-Pro2-Router-H122-373/dp/B08BX4YYPJ/ref=asc_df_B08BX4YYPJ/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=428082306939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2381171488914913052&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20490&hvtargid=pla-932863358386&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=99265839283&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=428082306939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2381171488914913052&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20490&hvtargid=pla-932863358386

Saw it on Sotel for about €409
https://www.sotel.de/en/Handy-Tablet/Surfsticks-MiFi/Telekom-Huawei-5G-CPE-Pro2-white-0050.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw_NX7BRA1EiwA2dpg0n7MeHNs1lLZ1Fe3HjI171-cI-pCx4XmZd3W6o3iStvOgKaCnA-1hBoCjX0QAvD_BwE&cur=0

Three have a page up but no content on it ye

https://www.three.ie/shop/broadband/broadband-devices/huawei-5g-cpe-pro-2.html

lankz92

Id imagine they wont be cheap. Probly getting ready to launch the bill pay plans.

Not looking like mines turning up today. Dpd said the 1st. So i was hopefull. Zero update on tracking since last night. Tbh i thought it would be friday anyway.
Sims setup and ready to go so i'll update yous tomorrow night.

lankz92

Right well iv it set up. Routers giving me much better speeds, however no 5g.
Do i need a different apn maybe? Im well in the coverage area on the map.
Guess im off running about the garden with an extension lead haha.