Where are the deaths coming from?

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

The way deaths are reported, the vast majority of people are under the impression that these are deaths that occurred in the last 24 hours since yyesterday's report.

They're also under the impression that these are deaths that are 100% caused by Covid, which is also untrue.

end of the road

suicide_circus wrote: »

The way deaths are reported, the vast majority of people are under the impression that these are deaths that occurred in the last 24 hours since yyesterday's report.

not at this stage, it's well known now that the death counts are a lag report rather then an exact time report.
it's also well known that some of the deaths will not be down to covid, that some will be suspected covid deaths but will be found to be not so later on.
there is no conspiricy or anything else going on here.

NIMAN

Don't Ireland and the UK (and probably the rest of the world) report deaths as people who died with CV19, not solely because of CV19?

So there could be people with terminal cancer dying but they are listed on the news bulletins as a CV19 death?

Slightly misleading and because of which we may never know how many people Covid actually killed.

bb1234567

NIMAN wrote: »

Don't Ireland and the UK (and probably the rest of the world) report deaths as people who died with CV19, not solely because of CV19?

So there could be people with terminal cancer dying but they are listed on the news bulletins as a CV19 death?

Slightly misleading and because of which we may never know how many people Covid actually killed.

Many Indian states don't even include any one who dies of COVID who has any underlying illness. So I could have asthma and die of COVID and Indian state government says I died of my harmless life long asthma. Pretty drmatic difference in reporting worldwide huh? Pretty much the opposite of us. And your tone seems to imply that this is somehow an effective approach by some Indian states.Tell me, what benefits exactly do this approach possess in favour of our method of counting deaths?

https://scroll.in/article/972578/why-assams-covid-fatality-rate-is-lowest-in-india-60-of-deaths-in-confirmed-cases-not-counted

Another crazy fact about Indian death counting. Anybody who dies before testing positive is not counted as a covid death. Does not matter an iota to India. You died before we got to test you, then it wasn't covid that killed you in our books. Astoundingly ridiculous

First are the suspected Covid-19 deaths – people who had displayed clinical symptoms of the disease but there was no laboratory confirmation. These deaths have been ignored almost across the board in India.

Mexico doesnt even have enough death certs allegedly to confirm so many covid deaths
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-05/mexico-runs-out-of-death-certificates-after-rush-of-covid-cases#:~:text=Speaking%20in%20a%20press%20conference,with%20larger%20stocks%2C%20he%20added.


Makes you realise Irish death reporting during the pandemic is not a bad thing, but a positive thing. People being slightly startled by a surprisingly high number of deaths on the nightly news is a better approach than poor reporting and inaccurate documentation of the course of the pandemic and many deaths slipping through the cracks, by any metric. I'd imagine you agree that poor reporting of deaths is a worse thing than highly accurate reporting of deaths.

Overcounting is a strictly West European and maybe East Asian 'problem'. Yes we will never know the true death toll, but it is much higher than 1 million due to serious underreporting issues in the developing world rather than lower.

eleventh

NIMAN wrote: »

Don't Ireland and the UK (and probably the rest of the world) report deaths as people who died with CV19, not solely because of CV19?.

Most won't notice that. It won't even register. All they see is the figure and word 'covid' beside it, accompanied by large photo of concerned-looking CMO.