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Crowds gathering in Galway

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    #62
    super_furry
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    The virus isn't serious for them 99.99% survival rate for them. You must think that dying from a lightneing strike is a serious threat to them too since they've the same chance of dying from either one?

    That's just not true in fairness. https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-survival-rates-5103495-May2020/


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    #63
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    The virus isn't serious for them 99.99% survival rate for them. You must think that dying from a lightneing strike is a serious threat to them too since they've the same chance of dying from either one?

    You are just plain lying so you really can't be taken seriously as a poster, covid is serious in at least 20% of cases. Anyone can die from it and the long term implications of it are as yet unknown with many people presenting with ongoing issues long after having the virus.

    You are like some smoking 100 a day and saying "Sure I wont get cancer, thats only for other people".


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    #64
    3xh
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭3xh


    super_furry wrote: »
    It's mad how the outrage is reserved for young people out trying to enjoy themselves after the poxiest six months of their lives.

    Where's the outrage about the meat and fish factories which are causing genuine and verifiable outbreaks? Nearly 2,000 cases from that industry now, with more than 40 proven outbreaks.

    But no, it's all down to the Galway students finally letting off some steam.

    You want to really have an impact here, close down the meat factories.

    Actually you highlight a worthwhile point. Media focus. And how powerful concerted messaging is.

    If they wanted, the media could’ve highlighted the meat factory issues more but it never came.

    ‘Students break guidelines’ is more soundbite-able.


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    #65
    timetogo1
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    The virus isn't serious for them 99.99% survival rate for them. You must think that dying from a lightneing strike is a serious threat to them too since they've the same chance of dying from either one?

    How do people still think this rubbish. If you get hit by a lightening strike can you pass it on to your parents, grandparents even though your fine?

    Or is it a case of "I'm alright jack"?

    Have you got the stats on the people left with longer term affects? Do they not count either?


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    #66
    3xh
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭3xh


    Jaime Warm Menopause wrote: »
    You are just plain lying so you really can't be taken seriously as a poster, covid is serious in at least 20% of cases. Anyone can die from it and the long term implications of it are as yet unknown with many people presenting with ongoing issues long after having the virus.

    You are like some smoking 100 a day and saying "Sure I wont get cancer, thats only for other people".

    Haha! Now we know you’re lying too, nox!

    That ‘20% other’ figure is out of date. Well out of date. It came from the initial small sample size of patients back at the start.

    Don’t be spreading mistruths.


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    #67
    LessOutragePlz
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    Jaime Warm Menopause wrote: »
    You are just plain lying so you really can't be taken seriously as a poster, covid is serious in at least 20% of cases. Anyone can die from it and the long term implications of it are as yet unknown with many people presenting with ongoing issues long after having the virus.

    You are like some smoking 100 a day and saying "Sure I wont get cancer, thats only for other people".

    Serious to whom? One person under the age of 24 has died from it. So saying anyone can die from it true but very misleading a certain part of society are way more susceptible to dying from it. It's a fact that younger people aren't as badly effected by it so there is no lie there.

    We don't know anything about the long term effects of it because it hasn't been around long enough to accurately measure the long term effects.

    Hahaha equating a virus that has a 99.94% chance of killing them with smoking is exactly what I've done bravo sir you've got me.


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    #68
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    super_furry wrote: »
    That's just not true in fairness. https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-survival-rates-5103495-May2020/

    My apologies it's 99.94% survival rate as per the information published by the HSE. 1 person under the age of 24 has died from covid out of 1,802 deaths.


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    #69
    timetogo1
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    We don't know anything about the long term effects of it because it hasn't been around long enough to accurately measure the long term effects.

    Here you go
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

    You're correct (in a way) that we don't know long term affects, there may be more as time goes on but that link has some examples of the longer term effects observed so far.
    I know of one colleague that isn't able to walk for longer periods of time two months after getting over it as he gets breathless.


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    #70
    LessOutragePlz
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    timetogo1 wrote: »
    How do people still think this rubbish. If you get hit by a lightening strike can you pass it on to your parents, grandparents even though your fine?

    Or is it a case of "I'm alright jack"?

    Have you got the stats on the people left with longer term affects? Do they not count either?

    There are no stats on the longer term effects because it hasn't been around that long and any stats that are presented as showing the long term effects can't possibly be true because enough time hasn't passed to measure the long term effects of it.

    I've no grandparents to pass it on to so that's not a concern for me.

    Let's just get on with our lives and stop living in fear.


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    #71
    Kh1993
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Kh1993


    Not a good look, fair enough.

    But then you’ve people saying “tone it down and socialise with smaller groups of 5-10 etc. Then when you do, you still have the outrage merchants like your one on twitter giving out about 15 people outdoors in a restaurant last weekend.


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    #72
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Serious to whom? One person under the age of 24 has died from it. So saying anyone can die from it true but very misleading a certain part of society are way more susceptible to dying from it. It's a fact that younger people aren't as badly effected by it so there is no lie there.

    We don't know anything about the long term effects of it because it hasn't been around long enough to accurately measure the long term effects.

    Hahaha equating a virus that has a 99.94% chance of killing them with smoking is exactly what I've done bravo sir you've got me.

    But a lot more than one young person has been seriously ill. You are like everyone else also ignoring the the fact that this is a contagious virus and the more it spreads the more people in at risk groups (which includes many younger people too) have of getting. Even if the 21 year old who gets it down the spanish arch doesn't get very sick how will he fell when he brings it home to his grandmother who dies from it, passes it onto his sister who works in a nursing home and causes an outbreak etc.

    The inability to actually think is a big issue for the anti-lock down mob.


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    #73
    beauf
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    Kh1993 wrote: »
    Not a good look, fair enough.

    But then you’ve people saying “tone it down and socialise with smaller groups of 5-10 etc. Then when you do, you still have the outrage merchants like your one on twitter giving out about 15 people outdoors in a restaurant last weekend.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-seventy-cases-in-cork-traced-to-pubs-and-restaurants-in-recent-weeks-5216928-Sep2020/

    I'm not sure what you are hoping for. This is changing situation. They can only react to the numbers and patterns they see.


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    #74
    normanoffside
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    My apologies it's 99.94% survival rate as per the information published by the HSE. 1 person under the age of 24 has died from covid out of 1,802 deaths.

    That person didn't die from Covid, it's well publicised.
    She had a congenital heart defect and was admitted to hospital then transferred to a Covid ward despite testing negative.

    By the time of death she had obviously contracted Covid inside said ward.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/mayo-student-s-parents-raise-questions-over-circumstances-surrounding-death-1.4246843


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    #75
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Jaime Warm Menopause wrote: »
    But a lot more than one young person has been seriously ill. You are like everyone else also ignoring the the fact that this is a contagious virus and the more it spreads the more people in at risk groups (which includes many younger people too) have of getting. Even if the 21 year old who gets it down the spanish arch doesn't get very sick how will he fell when he brings it home to his grandmother who dies from it, passes it onto his sister who works in a nursing home and causes an outbreak etc.

    The inability to actually think is a big issue for the anti-lock down mob.

    How many young people have died?

    No one said it wasn't contagious, the fact is that it isn't very deadly to younger people.

    They have an extremely low chance of dying from it 0.06%.

    So all I'm saying is let them get on with their lives and enjoy themselves..

    If you and others want to stay locked up in your house afraid to go outside or meet up with your friends because of the virus then so be it but, don't think that you can dictate how other people should live their lives under the guise of it being for the greater good!


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    #76
    timetogo1
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    I've no grandparents to pass it on to so that's not a concern for me.

    Would you think you might give it to somebody who does have grandparents and it might be a concern for them as they're not so selfish?


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    #77
    titan18
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    How many young people have died?

    No one said it wasn't contagious, the fact is that it isn't very deadly to younger people.

    They have an extremely low chance of dying from it 0.06%.

    So all I'm saying is let them get on with their lives and enjoy themselves..

    If you and others want to stay locked up in your house afraid to go outside or meet up with your friends because of the virus then so be it but, don't think that you can dictate how other people should live their lives under the guise of it being for the greater good!

    But they can spread it to people who have a higher chance of dying. So, just cos it doesn't affect them, you're saying let them at it, even though it can increase the spread across all of society


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    #78
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    normanoffside wrote: »
    That person didn't die from Covid, it's well publicised.
    She had a congenital heart defect and was admitted to hospital then transferred to a Covid ward despite testing negative.

    By the time of death she had obviously contracted Covid inside said ward.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/mayo-student-s-parents-raise-questions-over-circumstances-surrounding-death-1.4246843

    No surprises there that's the WHO's policy to record covid-19 deaths in that manner.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1310879755990970368?s=19


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    #79
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Delighted to see them out living their lives.

    How long do you expect them to put their lives on hold for?

    It's already been 6 months.

    Good point. Time to get the foam on...

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/08/18/wuhan-goes-wild-thousands-attend-pool-party-in-former-covid-19-epicentre


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    #80
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    titan18 wrote: »
    But they can spread it to people who have a higher chance of dying. So, just cos it doesn't affect them, you're saying let them at it, even though it can increase the spread across all of society

    Yeah let them at it stop living in fear of the virus because it isn't going away anytime soon.

    People that are still afraid of it can stay in their own self imposed Lockdown and let the rest of us enjoy our lives again and not be afraid to socialise with friends.

    We need to learn to live with it and the sooner that we do that the better.


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    #81
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Would you think you might give it to somebody who does have grandparents and it might be a concern for them as they're not so selfish?

    If that person is so concerned about passing it onto their grandparents then they should just stay in a self-imposed lockdown.

    That's the only way they can guarantee that they won't pass it onto them.


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    #82
    beauf
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Yeah let them at it stop living in fear of the virus because it isn't going away anytime soon.

    People that are still afraid of it can stay in their own self imposed Lockdown and let the rest of us enjoy our lives again and not be afraid to socialise with friends.

    We need to learn to live with it and the sooner that we do that the better.

    Certainly need you guys to get on with it.


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    #83
    titan18
    Registered Users Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Yeah let them at it stop living in fear of the virus because it isn't going away anytime soon.

    People that are still afraid of it can stay in their own self imposed Lockdown and let the rest of us enjoy our lives again and not be afraid to socialise with friends.

    We need to learn to live with it and the sooner that we do that the better.

    Cool to see you're ok for killing off the people in at risk groups then.


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    #84
    niallo27
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    Jaime Warm Menopause wrote: »
    You are just plain lying so you really can't be taken seriously as a poster, covid is serious in at least 20% of cases. Anyone can die from it and the long term implications of it are as yet unknown with many people presenting with ongoing issues long after having the virus.

    You are like some smoking 100 a day and saying "Sure I wont get cancer, thats only for other people".

    Shouldnt we ban smoking so if its killing people.


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    #85
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    titan18 wrote: »
    Cool to see you're ok for killing off the people in at risk groups then.

    Yeah I'm a confirmed granny killer :rolleyes:


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    #86
    timetogo1
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Yeah I'm a confirmed granny killer :rolleyes:

    Confirmed idiot anyway.


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    #87
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Confirmed idiot anyway.

    I'm an idiot for not living in fear of a virus that has a 0.06% chance of killing me.

    They must have changed the definition of an idiot in the dictionary so?


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    #88
    Russman
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Nice shifting of the goalposts there but was the detah rate as small as 0.01% for any country?

    Damn right they aren't willing to do that, they along with many others are sick to death of all the doom and gloom being peddled by the media and shoved down our throats from posters such as yourself.

    Yeah we get it's all the students, pubs and restaurants fault.

    Why is it so difficult for people to understand that it's very hard to care about a virus that has a 0.01% of killing you?

    Call us selfish all you want but I'd call it being realistic.

    What about people associated with you ? or others you might spread it to ? Just tough sh1t on them, is it ?


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    #89
    beauf
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    Shouldnt we ban smoking so if its killing people.

    Didn't we mostly do that already.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwabhE_pqKM&ab_channel=PetterEliseussen


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    #90
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Russman wrote: »
    What about people associated with you ? or others you might spread it to ? Just tough sh1t on them, is it ?

    Yeah pretty much if they are afraid of the virus then just stay in a self imposed lockdown and let the rest of us get on with our lives and not live in fear of a virus that has a 0.06% chance of killing us.


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    #91
    Russman
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    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Yeah pretty much if they are afraid of the virus then just stay in a self imposed lockdown and let the rest of us get on with our lives and not live in fear of a virus that has a 0.06% chance of killing us.

    At least you're honest about it anyway, that's something I guess.


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