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'No-platforming' at Trinity College.

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    #182
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    excludedbin wrote: »
    vituperation.
    Total aside, but that's a fantastic word to use EB. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #183
    Snickers Man
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    You are raising baseless fears,

    .....
    What you are doing is misrepresenting what he said and saying it "raises questions" about his position which are not reasonable based on what he did say.

    .......
    Despite your misrepresentation he did not say anything that could reasonably be construed as support for eugenics.

    I think he said many things that raised questions and therefore we would benefit by having questions about those statements (and others he has made elsewhere) put to him. Who are you to dictate what concerns others may have just because you don't share them?

    Just because questions are raised, it doesn't automatically follow that the answers will be disquieting.

    All of which, to bring things back to the OP, are reasons FOR inviting Professor Dawkins to this country and to have him present his case and accept questions/debates from interested persons.

    Which I warmly favour.


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    #184
    WrenBoy
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    For some reason, the left can never associate Muslims with far right, this despite far more examples of fascist behaviour from that corner this past two decades

    It appears far right is a tag only applied to a white person 9 times out 10. Strange that.


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    #185
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Article in the Irish Times by the provost of Trinity on this, today


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/trinity-and-richard-dawkins-better-to-debate-ideas-than-to-ban-them-1.4394383


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    #186
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Article in the Irish Times by the provost of Trinity on this, today


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/trinity-and-richard-dawkins-better-to-debate-ideas-than-to-ban-them-1.4394383

    im sure his cancellation is due any day now.


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    #187
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »
    Well, this news was quite cringeworthy. Inviting Dawkins not knowing he critcized Islam is like inviting Freddie Mercury do do a talk on campness and then finding out "oh, he's in a rock and roll band." It's just shows how poor Brwas with her basic research. I would be very embarrassed if I were her right now.

    And Dawkins is pretty consistent with his critcism of religion. Islam just happens to be one of the religions he critques. But it's all based on principles of them being anti-scienfitic and harmful in some form or another to education.

    It's amazing when one critcises Islam, it means they are "critcising all Muslims." But when you criticise Scientology or Caltholicism you are criticising the institution not every Scientologist or catholic. Why is that? Double standard are astonishing.

    As for the tweets. Whether you agree or not with them, doeesn't negate his work and contributions to science. We need intellectual and challenging discourse and opposing views to sharpen our own and to challenge our own ideas and views. Otherwise how to we grow and evolve?

    Those that can't see that are intellecutally bereft of any logic or reasoning.

    Imagine, disinviting someone because some people might feel uncomfortable. How about the people that might benefit from his years of expertise and scienfitic wisdom. People being uncomfortable trumps other people's chance at learning.

    Very well said


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