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Trump tests positive for Coronavirus (Mod warning in the op)

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    #932
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I hope he is fine and it is just fake news on his health. Perfect timing, difficult not to be cynical isn't it? No more mad debates.

    Sensible timing for the advisers. How is the super spreader Hope Hicks now I wonder? Ah she doesn't matter neither does Trump's wife either.

    It is all about HIM. And it could be all false which is looking likely.


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    #933
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    no.8 wrote: »
    Eh, think Dublin is on a different level to Cork baii

    It is currently but it is still rampant here, riddled with it, to use the exact phrase of a nurse testing here.


    Are we as a State near 3% positive rate for testing, about that.

    2% of the population being tested weekly. if they could double testing capacity they would at least double the positives and that could be repeated.


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    #934
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I hope he is fine and it is just fake news on his health. Perfect timing, difficult not to be cynical isn't it? No more mad debates.

    Sensible timing for the advisers. How is the super spreader Hope Hicks now I wonder? Ah she doesn't matter neither does Trump's wife either.

    It is all about HIM. And it could be all false which is looking likely.

    He is the job, the job is bigger than him, bigger than all around him.

    That's always the case for the President.


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    #935
    On the Beach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭On the Beach


    Danzy wrote:
    He is the job, the job is bigger than him, biggly than all around him.


    FYP


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    #936
    Overheal
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    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    The slight problem with these conspiracy theories around Trump faking it, is that you need to have the medical profession complicit in the scam.

    That means top doctors and medical workers all playing along with a pretence and signing documents that would be intended to fool the public.

    Basically putting their professional career and years of medical integrity on the line.

    Thinking Trump is a bull-sh1tter is one thing, doubting if he has covid is an entirely different kettle of fish. Such theories are now implicating Doctors and any other medical professional who will be involved in his treatment.

    To be fair, a lot of people have cashed in their integrity to keep breathing life into this presidency, and he's had doctors administer transcribed/dictated notes about his health, have tested him for cognitive decline without comment, and haven't talked.

    Anyway wouldn't they be bound by medical ethics afaik to not leak information about their patient even if the patient chooses to lie - which is otherwise their right to do? So if Trump wanted to go to a handful of doctors in Walter Reed and say 'yeah I tested negative but [I wanted to skip school today],' they really aren't in a position to leak that information. There's a lot of ways a con like that would easily fail so I don't anticipate they'd try it, but then this administration has never minded doing things that were blatantly unethical before and just relying on the electorate never paying attention and using weapons grade gaslighting when they do.


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    #937
    Spanish Eyes
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    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    The slight problem with these conspiracy theories around Trump faking it, is that you need to have the medical profession complicit in the scam.

    That means top doctors and medical workers all playing along with a pretence and signing documents that would be intended to fool the public.

    Basically putting their professional career and years of medical integrity on the line.

    Thinking Trump is a bull-sh1tter is one thing, doubting if he has covid is an entirely different kettle of fish. Such theories are now implicating Doctors and any other medical professional who will be involved in his treatment.

    The medics can do what they like, medical and other privacy issues will win out. We will never know really.


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    #938
    drunkmonkey
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    Danzy wrote: »

    2% of the population being tested weekly. if they could double testing capacity they would at least double the positives and that could be repeated.

    Are you trying to get us all locked down...


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    #939
    [Deleted User]
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    Says he has some significant heart disease on Sky News. Not good for the Covid when combined with body mass and age.


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    #940
    On the Beach
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    Deleted User wrote:
    Says he has some significant heart disease on Sky News. Not good for the Covid when combined with body mass and age.


    Aw. I'm worried now.


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    #941
    Overheal
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Polls proved otherwise, Johnson didn't get any bounce at all after the dumb **** caught it.

    He was actually sick though yeah? Or is there still a plausible theory he wasn't?


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    #942
    maebee
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    Lucy8080 wrote: »

    Thinking Trump is a bull-sh1tter is one thing, doubting if he has covid is an entirely different kettle of fish. Such theories are now implicating Doctors and any other medical professional who will be involved in his treatment.

    For definite, Trump is a bull-sh1tter. Plenty of bullsh1t out of him slagging Biden over mask wearing, when days later he leaves the WH, confirmed positive for the "China Virus", heading for hospital and wearing a mask.

    Whatever the outcome, we can only hope that Trump and his followers realise the seriousness of this pandemic. Hopefully he comes out of this a humbled human being.


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    #943
    Danzy
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    On the Beach wrote: »
    FYP

    FYM


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    #944
    Hurrache
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Theyvare using the combination of drugs which has proved scientifically safest and most effective in people in his age group/health status.

    But they're still classed as experimental, so it's a bit of a hail Mary, plus Trump is the last person to let himself be shown in weakness, getting a helicopter to hospital and the world knows it.


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    #945
    On the Beach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭On the Beach


    maebee wrote:
    Whatever the outcome, we can only hope that Trump and his followers realise the seriousness of this pandemic. Hopefully he comes out of this a humbled human being.


    Are you the most optimistic person in the world?


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    #946
    Muahahaha
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    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    The slight problem with these conspiracy theories around Trump faking it, is that you need to have the medical profession complicit in the scam.

    That means top doctors and medical workers all playing along with a pretence and signing documents that would be intended to fool the public.

    Basically putting their professional career and years of medical integrity on the line.

    Thinking Trump is a bull-sh1tter is one thing, doubting if he has covid is an entirely different kettle of fish. Such theories are now implicating Doctors and any other medical professional who will be involved in his treatment.

    The conspiracy theories have gained oxygen from his own actions, he already dictated his own medical report to his own personal physician who reported that he is not obese even though he clearly is. Then he was taken to Walter Reed hospital earlier this year at 3 in the morning and still nobody knows what it was about but he was later photographed with what looks like a scar from an IV tube stuck into his hand. Again no statement from Trump as to why he was taken to hospital at 3 in the morning.

    You dont need to get doctors to cover up- they already have to by law under patient confidentiality. If they talk to the media their career is over. That means politicians can spin their medical problems whatever way they want.

    FWIW I believe Trump genuinely has Covid


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    #947
    Overheal
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    maebee wrote: »
    For definite, Trump is a bull-sh1tter. Plenty of bullsh1t out of him slagging Biden over mask wearing, when days later he leaves the WH, confirmed positive for the "China Virus", heading for hospital and wearing a mask.

    Whatever the outcome, we can only hope that Trump and his followers realise the seriousness of this pandemic. Hopefully he comes out of this a humbled human being.

    Spat my drink.

    He will come out of this accusing China of trying to help Joe Biden with a coup d'etait, are you joking me? Humble! :pac:


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    #948
    extra gravy
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    Danzy wrote: »
    "We the people" has never been more apt.

    Tonight all Americans stand on watch for their head of State.

    His fight is their fight , his loss is their loss.

    Christ pass the sick bucket, this is like a cheesy speech from a failed Hollywood movie.


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    #949
    Sorolla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Sorolla


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Says he has some significant heart disease on Sky News. Not good for the Covid when combined with body mass and age.

    He does carry a lot of weight.
    In a good tailored suit he looks good.
    When golfing it is clear to see he had a very wide waist


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    #950
    O'Neill
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    maebee wrote: »
    For definite, Trump is a bull-sh1tter. Plenty of bullsh1t out of him slagging Biden over mask wearing, when days later he leaves the WH, confirmed positive for the "China Virus", heading for hospital and wearing a mask.

    Whatever the outcome, we can only hope that Trump and his followers realise the seriousness of this pandemic. Hopefully he comes out of this a humbled human being.

    Hasn't worked for Boris Johnson from what I can tell


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    #951
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Overheal wrote: »
    He was actually sick though yeah? Or is there still a plausible theory he wasn't?

    Yeah, Johnson got it alright, he wasn't right for a long time afterwards. Some analysts still believe he hasn't fully recovered. If you watch the commons debates you'll see yourself he's pretty lethargic and useless, that's when he turns up.


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    #952
    ro_chez
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    Kind of intriguing though isnt it?, that at least in the west, Boris, Bolsonaro and now Trump, who for their own individual reasons, handled this situation incredibly badly at the expense of their own citizens who they have a duty to protect, ended up contracting this disease themselves.


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    #953
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    maebee wrote: »
    For definite, Trump is a bull-sh1tter. Plenty of bullsh1t out of him slagging Biden over mask wearing, when days later he leaves the WH, confirmed positive for the "China Virus", heading for hospital and wearing a mask.

    Whatever the outcome, we can only hope that Trump and his followers realise the seriousness of this pandemic. Hopefully he comes out of this a humbled human being.

    Not a chance, he is a chancer.

    But I still think this diagnosis is very timely just the same. If it is really a positive that is.


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    #954
    dark crystal
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    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    The slight problem with these conspiracy theories around Trump faking it, is that you need to have the medical profession complicit in the scam.

    That means top doctors and medical workers all playing along with a pretence and signing documents that would be intended to fool the public.

    Basically putting their professional career and years of medical integrity on the line.

    Thinking Trump is a bull-sh1tter is one thing, doubting if he has covid is an entirely different kettle of fish. Such theories are now implicating Doctors and any other medical professional who will be involved in his treatment.

    Behold Harold Borstein, Trump's personal physician until 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Bornstein
    In December 2015 in response to questions about his health, Trump asked Bornstein to issue a "full medical report", predicting that it would show "perfection". Two days later Bornstein signed a letter full of superlatives, saying that Trump's "laboratory results are astonishingly excellent" and that Trump "will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency." In August 2016, Bornstein stated that he had written the letter in five minutes while Trump's limousine waited for it. But he reiterated that Trump's "health is excellent, especially his mental health."

    On May 1, 2018, Bornstein told NBC News that three Trump representatives had "raided" his office on February 3, 2017, taking all of Trump's medical records. He identified two of the men as Trump's longtime bodyguard Keith Schiller and the Trump Organization's chief legal officer Alan Garten. Two days earlier, Bornstein had told a reporter that Trump took a prescription hair growth medicine, Propecia, after which Trump cut ties with him

    Sean Conley: https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-meet-the-doctors-who-have-been-responsible-for-the-presidents-health-12087813
    He became the official physician to the president in May 2018 and had largely stayed out of the limelight until he confirmed in May that he agreed Mr Trump could take anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine to stave off COVID-19.

    Despite studies showing that the drug does not help prevent COVID-19, he said a discussion with the president concluded the "potential benefit from treatment outweighed the relative risks".

    Ronny Jackson: Also in link above:
    Mr Obama appointed him physician to the president in 2013 and he remained the White House doctor under Mr Trump and attempted several times to get the president to improve his diet and exercise more.
    However, Dr Jackson spoke to the press for an hour in January 2018 about how the president had "good genes", did "exceedingly well" on his cognitive test and had "excellent" cardiac health.

    He said he told Mr Trump that if he had a healthier diet over the past 20 years he "might live to be 200 years old"

    Dr Jackson was allegedly called "the candy man" in the White House after being accused of improperly handing out prescription drugs, excessively drinking on the job and creating a hostile work environment.

    Trump demands his doctors tell the press exactly what he wants them to hear, whether it be true or not. I wouldn't trust a word they say in public.


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    #955
    Sorolla
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    ro_chez wrote: »
    Kind of intriguing though isnt it?, that at least in the west, Boris, Bolsonaro and now Trump, who for their own individual reasons, handled this situation incredibly badly at the expense of their own citizens who they have a duty to protect, ended up contracting this disease themselves.

    Poor auld mrs o Driscoll who lives in our parish and who looked after her elderly mother for years ended up getting the COVID through no fault of her own.

    Anyone who gets the virus is just very unlucky - there should never be a blame game


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    #956
    Hurrache
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    Sorolla wrote: »
    Anyone who gets the virus is just very unlucky - there should never be a blame game

    If you're pretty dismissive about it and take no precautions, you certainly have some liability.


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    #957
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    ro_chez wrote: »
    Kind of intriguing though isnt it?, that at least in the west, Boris, Bolsonaro and now Trump, who for their own individual reasons, handled this situation incredibly badly at the expense of their own citizens who they have a duty to protect, ended up contracting this disease themselves.

    They had contempt for the concept of the infectiousness and significance of the virus.


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    #958
    Edgware
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    Behold Harold Borstein, Trump's personal physician until 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Bornstein



    Sean Conley: https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-meet-the-doctors-who-have-been-responsible-for-the-presidents-health-12087813



    Ronny Jackson: Also in link above:



    Trump demands his doctors tell the press exactly what he wants them to hear, whether it be true or not. I wouldn't trust a word they say in public.

    So can we take it the bleach does not work


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    #959
    brooke 2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Reaction to the 8 gram cocktail? Off to hospital, what a mess.

    Yet he will be working from there. :rolleyes:


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    #960
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Says he has some significant heart disease on Sky News. Not good for the Covid when combined with body mass and age.

    4 more years 4 more years!


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    #961
    dark crystal
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    Edgware wrote: »
    So can we take it the bleach does not work

    Even Dr. Birx wasn't prepared to play along with that level of crazy :pac:


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