Trump tests positive for Coronavirus (Mod warning in the op)

dark crystal

Two more casualties:

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1313158625905565696

ChikiChiki

Penn wrote: »

Kayleigh McEnany has now tested positive for Covid-19.

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1313138387994509313?s=20

The fact she felt the need to state the Hope Hicks part is a sure indicator there was knowledge of Hicks diagnosis within the administration.

Not the brightest bunch here in this administration.

Outlaw Pete

Igotadose wrote: »

Yeah, they were all being misled by Trump at the time, who'd had the information since January

Had what information exactly?

and around 25 Feb was on about it going to disappear like a miracle, only 15 cases, yadda yadda.

And in the same interview he said it would likely get much worse before it got better but that if it did that his Administration would do all they could, which they did, and yes we know 214,000 have apparently died "from Covid" but those numbers are on par with Sweden, the UK and Italy (when it comes to deaths per capita) and so not so disproportionate that it's indicative of the US Government having failed it's people by being negligent. They broke their backs for heaven sake, working 24-7. Some states it seems dropped the ball alright but sure it is what it is, Cuomo I don't suppose meant anyone any harm, and at least felt that he was doing the right thing despite it of course turning out not to be the case, but sure hindsight is 20-20.

dark crystal wrote: »

Awful, selfish people.

Why is she awful? Biden has been in public gatherings without a mask. Think you're being extremely harsh there. Life has to go on. We can't shut down the world forever.

Pete, care to show the events where Biden wasn't wearing a mask and in close contact with multiple people? Trump was mocking Biden over the fact he wears masks on a constant basis, only last week.

hetuzozaho

Is there a general consensus on why Republicans tend to be "anti-science" or whatever?

Timberrrrrrrr

Trumps rage tweets are hilarious!

Trumps derangement syndrome at it best :pac:

hetuzozaho

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Life has to go on. We can't shut down the world forever.

Claptrap!

Mask, social distance and wash hands. It's all we asked them to do. Then they give us the Rose Garden video :pac:

dark crystal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Why is she awful? Biden has been in public gatherings without a mask. Think you're being extremely harsh there. Life has to go on. We can't shut down the world forever.

She went to the packed Rose Garden event. Did not practice social distancing. Did not wear a mask. Brought the virus home to her daughter, who in turn caught it from her.

I don't care that their dumb asses caught the virus when they were well aware of the precautions needed, yet wilfuly ignored them at their cult leader's behest, however to bring that dangerous dumbassery into your home and in turn infect your family, is awful, selfish behaviour.

Do you disagree?

Igotadose

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Had what information exactly?

Enough that he said he downplayed it to prevent a panic. Said so himself

They broke their backs for heaven sake, working 24-7.

Between golf breaks? https://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings. Golf dates of interest here: Feb 1, Feb 2, Feb 15, March 7

Or on Rally days? 11 Feb, 28 March, 27 APril, 8 May, 20 May

Some states it seems dropped the ball alright but sure it is what it is, Cuomo I don't suppose meant anyone any harm, and at least felt that he was doing the right thing despite it of course turning out not to be the case, but sure hindsight is 20-20.

Right, the #IMPOTUS takes no responsibilty. Not even offering to step in to those awful states that he had competing for PPE (when his WH wasn't confiscating PPE itself). He's the #POTUS. The buck stops with him.

Of course, if he loses and Biden wins, he can take no responsibilty as well, amiright?

Beechwoodspark

Trump is raging he’s not out of the hospital yet

Wonder will he just get up and hit the road virus be damned

OMM 0000

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Not the brightest bunch here in this administration.

Ah, you can't say Kayleigh isn't smart.

Have you ever seen her spar with reporters? She is sharp and competent.

And look at her education - she has a PhD from Harvard (technically a JD, but that's the equivalent of a PhD in law). She even spent time at Oxford.

Outlaw Pete

Deleted User wrote: »

Pete, care to show the events where Biden wasn't wearing a mask and in close contact with multiple people?

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLkRRYuUVA

And a few hours earlier he was caught on camera talking up close with Anderson Cooper also, despite making sure to pretend to be about social distancing when the cameras were rolling. Political theatre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-HccCyjj8

Igotadose

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Ah, you can't say Kayleigh isn't smart.

Have you ever seen her spar with reporters? She is sharp and competent.

And look at her education - she has a PhD from Harvard (technically a JD, but that's the equivalent of a PhD in law). She even spent time at Oxford.

Proof she's got the JD? Most sources show her 'attending.' Might be her JD came from the University of Miami.

Timberrrrrrrr

Igotadose wrote: »

Proof she's got the JD? Most sources show her 'attending.' Might be her JD came from the University of Miami.

Probably from Trump "University"

listermint

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Ah, you can't say Kayleigh isn't smart.

Have you ever seen her spar with reporters? She is sharp and competent.

And look at her education - she has a PhD from Harvard (technically a JD, but that's the equivalent of a PhD in law). She even spent time at Oxford.

Which Oxford. And a JD isn't a PhD at all not even close.

OMM 0000

Igotadose wrote: »

Proof she's got the JD? Most sources show her 'attending.' Might be her JD came from the University of Miami.

"She graduated from Georgetown University’s foreign service school in 2010, entered the University of Miami Law School and transferred into Harvard from there, graduating in 2016."

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/us/politics/kayleigh-mcenany-trump-coronavirus.html


"McEnany also went to law school after finishing her undergraduate work. She started out at the University of Miami School of Law and eventually transferred to Harvard Law School, graduating with a J.D. in May 2016."

- https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-kayleigh-mcenany-bio-life-facts-trump-rnc-cnn-2017-8#mcenany-also-went-to-law-school-after-finishing-her-undergraduate-work-she-started-out-at-the-university-of-miami-school-of-law-and-eventually-transferred-to-harvard-law-school-graduating-with-a-jd-in-may-2016-8

Igotadose

OMM 0000 wrote: »

"She graduated from Georgetown University’s foreign service school in 2010, entered the University of Miami Law School and transferred into Harvard from there, graduating in 2016."

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/us/politics/kayleigh-mcenany-trump-coronavirus.html


"McEnany also went to law school after finishing her undergraduate work. She started out at the University of Miami School of Law and eventually transferred to Harvard Law School, graduating with a J.D. in May 2016."

- https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-kayleigh-mcenany-bio-life-facts-trump-rnc-cnn-2017-8#mcenany-also-went-to-law-school-after-finishing-her-undergraduate-work-she-started-out-at-the-university-of-miami-school-of-law-and-eventually-transferred-to-harvard-law-school-graduating-with-a-jd-in-may-2016-8

Thanks! FWIW, JD is not a PhD. My brother has one from a comparable Ivy law school. PhD is original research over something like typically 6 year period, thesis, thesis defense.

OMM 0000

listermint wrote: »

Which Oxford. And a JD isn't a PhD at all not even close.

Oxford UK.

A JD is roughly equivalent to a PhD in Law.

From the American Bar Association:

"WHEREAS, the acquisition of a Doctor of Jurisprudence degree requires from 84 to 90 semester hours of post baccalaureate study and the Doctor of Philosophy degree usually requires 60 semester hours of post baccalaureate study along with the writing of a dissertation, the two degrees shall be considered as equivalent degrees for educational employment purposes;

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that all appropriate persons be requested to eliminate any policy, or practice, existing within their jurisdiction which disparages legal education or promotes discriminatory employment practices against J.D. degree-holders who hold academic appointment in education institutions."

I'm not going to argue with you about this.

OMM 0000

Igotadose wrote: »

Thanks! FWIW, JD is not a PhD. My brother has one from a comparable Ivy law school. PhD is original research over something like typically 6 year period, thesis, thesis defense.

I also have a PhD. It took 4 years.

I think a JD takes around 3 years.

Anyway, the general point is she is educated and not a dummy.

mcmoustache

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLkRRYuUVA

And a few hours earlier he was caught on camera talking up close with Anderson Cooper also, despite making sure to pretend to be about social distancing when the cameras were rolling. Political theatre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-HccCyjj8

Those are simply not comparable. These are really minor compared to organising the kind of event super-spreader event that puts Herman Cain in the ground. I get that you're trying your best but this isn't great.

Outlaw Pete

dark crystal wrote: »

She went to the packed Rose Garden event. Did not practice social distancing. Did not wear a mask. Brought the virus home to her daughter, who in turn caught it from her.

Source for this?

I don't care that their dumb asses caught the virus when they were well aware of the precautions needed, yet wilfuly ignored them at their cult leader's behest, however to bring that dangerous dumbassery into your home and in turn infect your family, is awful, selfish behaviour.

Do you disagree?

Biden has grandchildren. Was him talking to those firefighters a few weeks back with no mask on "dangerous dumbassery"?? Had he contracted the virus would you be on here saying he was dumb ass who brought it into his home?

dark crystal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Source for this?

https://news.yahoo.com/claudia-conway-announces-coronavirus-diagnosis-190900718.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFbKC-o0gs6cyA2pRmmViK16S8U4lx1iIroNI-dmlfqLsfIfQjZDXcWwk-0bRyNpUerMKhxWjbTfCGZaIKk0nWlpNQIMz9V3OslyTt53TjQWqGOnUnKOPHhpuDo_kTD-F-7UdT7p6HARVVQWUrK23LXqfnKfrl1ZVYlN_T9tq3KY

Biden has grandchildren. Was him talking to those firefighters a few weeks back with no mask on "dangerous dumbassery"?? Had he contracted the virus would you be on here saying he was dumb ass who brought it into his home?

You're damn sure I'd be saying the same thing. If Biden recklessly advocated not wearing masks, mocked people for wearing them, held packed rallies, refused a test before the debate, went to another event knowing one of his close contacts had tested positive and then brought the virus home to his family, I'd be the first in line to call him a selfish dumbass.

stockshares

Dr briefing at 8pm GMT I think.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1313179072894205953?s=19

stockshares

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1313174944889663492?s=19

stockshares

So the Media expected him to leave his hospital bed while infected with Covid and greet his fans.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313183801732890624?s=19

Kermit.de.frog

Ugh make it stop.

Outlaw Pete

dark crystal wrote: »

You're damn sure I'd be saying the same thing. If Biden recklessly advocated not wearing masks, mocked people for wearing them

You mean at the debate? Trump had a mask in his pocket at the debate - he only mocked Biden wearing one when it was clearly not needed.

held packed rallies,

Be hard from him to do that tbf.

refused a test before the debate,

Wasn't he tested already that day? That's what I seen reported at least.

went to another event knowing one of his close contacts had tested positive and then brought the virus home to his family

Well, apparently the White House deemed him fit to travel as he didn't have direct contact with Hicks. You can't expect the POTUS to stop all engagements just because someone in the White House contracts the virus.

Beechwoodspark

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Probably from Trump "University"

This seems to have been a scam -

Igotadose

Interestingly, no contact tracing going on based on the SCOTUS nomination party last week. The US really isn't doing contact tracing, is it? I haven't kept up but I don't see a lot of news about it, it's a huge job especially on the US scale. I think the US has punted, its the kind of thing that the feds would have to lead on as it's likely to span states.

But, on the #IMPOTUS' watch, unlikely - he takes no responsibilty, after all.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/05/media/michael-shear-white-house-journalist/index.html

stockshares

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070?s=19