veterinary vampires

Lady Haywire

kerry cow wrote: »

for the record ,

vets provide a excellent service i am very happy with my vet .

hope ye are all clear on that .
some just jump right in their and say kerry cow doesn't like the vet ,bla, bla .

my issue is with monopoly ,
my issue is with let a vet call at 3am .
but let be clear about the rates and charges ,
stop mashing it all in with high drug charges,
its a common practice all over the country , that we vet won't charge a proper call out fee .
and inturn we end up with the vet wanting to supply on POM our dosing and vaccines .

call a spade a spade ,
pay the vet for his day and night charges properly , I totally agree , but give us a script to buy from our licence merchant or pharmacy .

am I been totally off the wall .
I dont think so .
how can anybody have a problem with that .

too many on here read between the lines ,what they think they see ,rather than what is printed .

And how can a vet do his work at 3am without using his own drugs? Unless you want him to do a section with nothing more than a scalpel and hot water.
If I have a cow in urgent need of attention, I am not going to haggle. A few euro extra is far less than a lost animal if you're acting the pup & he declines to be your vet any more.

kerry cow

Lady Haywire wrote:

And how can a vet do his work at 3am without using his own drugs? Unless you want him to do a section with nothing more than a scalpel and hot water. If I have a cow in urgent need of attention, I am not going to haggle. A few euro extra is far less than a lost animal if you're acting the pup & he declines to be your vet any more.

well as I posted before if you care to read before you attack , the vet should have his own supply for his call out , isn't that not common sense ,

problem is common sense is lacking also, in not allowing competition .
but sure why would any business want competition .

Dinzee Conlee

kerry cow wrote: »

well as I posted before if you care to read before you attack , the vet should have his own supply for his call out , isn't that not common sense ,

problem is common sense is lacking also, in not allowing competition .
but sure why would any business want competition .

So what is it you want?

You want to be able to walk into your vet, get a prescription, walk out with the prescription and fill it somewhere else? Maybe online?

You then want the vet to be at the end of the phone to answer any queries you have, plus potentially come out to you at 3am. Then and only then, you’ll buy medicines from the vet?

Have you spoken to your current vet to see if they would provide this service when the new regulations come in?
Have you spoken to other vets in your area if they would provide this service?

Remember competition means you can move vets and don’t have to stick with your current vet...

I might have missed the link with the new regulations, so could you throw it up please...

Sheep breeder

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

So what is it you want?

You want to be able to walk into your vet, get a prescription, walk out with the prescription and fill it somewhere else? Maybe online?

You then want the vet to be at the end of the phone to answer any queries you have, plus potentially come out to you at 3am. Then and only then, you’ll buy medicines from the vet?

Have you spoken to your current vet to see if they would provide this service when the new regulations come in?
Have you spoken to other vets in your area if they would provide this service?

Remember competition means you can move vets and don’t have to stick with your current vet...

I might have missed the link with the new regulations, so could you throw it up please...

Like your post,
First how many times have anyone had the vet out at 3am, usually it is down to waiting to long to intervene and then expecting the vet to provide a miracle. The vet practice we use has 5 or 6 vets and was started by one who now is his sevenths and is still working flat out and is a world of up to date knowledge and a man who can impart knowledge and advice and is always in great form and loves a bit of craic. His main line is pickup the phone at any time for help. What per hour is that worth.

Tonynewholland

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Like your post,
First how many times have anyone had the vet out at 3am, usually it is down to waiting to long to intervene and then expecting the vet to provide a miracle. The vet practice we use has 5 or 6 vets and was started by one who now is his sevenths and is still working flat out and is a world of up to date knowledge and a man who can impart knowledge and advice and is always in great form and loves a bit of craic. His main line is pickup the phone at any time for help. What per hour is that worth.

From talking to my vet the middle of the night calls are not as busy as in the past.
The evenings are busy with the part time lads home from work checking stock and busy from 6:00 in the mornings in spring with dairy farmers

kerry cow

Sheep breeder wrote:

Like your post, First how many times have anyone had the vet out at 3am, usually it is down to waiting to long to intervene and then expecting the vet to provide a miracle. The vet practice we use has 5 or 6 vets and was started by one who now is his sevenths and is still working flat out and is a world of up to date knowledge and a man who can impart knowledge and advice and is always in great form and loves a bit of craic. His main line is pickup the phone at any time for help. What per hour is that worth.

well what is it worth ,
put a figure on it .

Pkiernan

kerry cow wrote: »

I didn't post that sentence ,so mod's might like to look into it , changing and inserting words of anothers post is dangerous thing to do .

thats why I told you I changed it.

Brazilian beef would be a lot cheaper for Irish consumers.


You want cheaper vet services...a lot of consumers would like cheaper beef.

older by the day

Gave 1000 Euro to the vet today. But I wouldn't be angry about it, I get a great service. They will be out in 20 mins if I need them. A cousin of mine was left lying on the street in town for 2 hours after breaking his hip. Ambulance was on duty in cork. What would the vet earn in a small animal clinic while they are an hour with me. Not covered in ****e, claming weanlings or trying to turn a calf in the womb. Small animals, That's where they can really sock it on. Would you expect a person with more qualification than a doctor, work for min wage. I hope they stay at it.

Sheep breeder

kerry cow wrote: »

well what is it worth ,
put a figure on it .

Priceless
My two women are mad about stock, our vet always is giving them information when he meets them and answers any questions with no hassle or charge.
Money is not everything, no pockets in the habit.

Donegalforever

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

No - still smiling - see

I take your point - we should shop around, shop at large merchants and not use local vets as they are too expensive...

Another smiley there for kicks...

You are free to buy all you require from the vet.
After all fools and their money are easily parted.

Dinzee Conlee

Donegalforever wrote: »

You are free to buy all you require from the vet.
After all fools and their money are easily parted.

Ah Donegal there you are... thanks for returning, and what a burn

Sure funny, smart men like you don’t need vets - you could surely bring the animals back from the dead with your sharp wit

greysides

Mod:DonegalForever, Dinzee Conlee: Enough, thanks! Move on.

PoorFarmer

kerry cow wrote: »

well what is it worth ,
put a figure on it .

I'm not a vet or not even nearly as qualified as a vet but an out of hours callout for me is 6 hours pay + travel.
So that's just over €100 for my time plus expenses
Like I said I'm not nearly as qualified as a vet so my one is surely worth more.

dzer2

PoorFarmer wrote: »

I'm not a vet or not even nearly as qualified as a vet but an out of hours callout for me is 6 hours pay + travel.
So that's just over €100 for my time plus expenses
Like I said I'm not nearly as qualified as a vet so my one is surely worth more.

Jesus may not being funny but it's no wonder you are a poor farmer. If I am called out during the day its 350 just to go then whatever time on site and expenses parts and reports. It sure stops the after hours call out. 1 in 5 yrs is all I Ihave had. 8 o'clock on a summers evening. Took until 3 the next morning to get the machine up and running. Left with a cheque for 1300 and that was only time and travel. I use the vet sparingly here as we don't have a large herd. Never vaccinate as never needed to. Only dose.for worms as needed also. For the last 3 yrs only seen the vet for tests. Now that won't keep him in business so I am glad he has others to work for.

Capercaillie

kerry cow wrote: »

looks like our new minister of agriculture ,sees an end insight for the eradication of TB , dont worry the vets won't go hungry .they are going to continue to feed off the farmers , with the axe falling on the licenced merchants ,

yet it has been good enough for them to service us all the years gone .
its the veterinary club looking after each other and seeing the TB gravy train will finish up .
so it a case of tie up the dosing and the vaccine market .

how have our farm representatives allowed this is beyond me , how weak we are represented .

Dont get the vet out again, if you think so liitle of them.

Capercaillie

Donegalforever wrote: »

I never said that Vets are generally too expensive.
I pointed out the excessive mark-up I encountered.
In the example I gave the Vet was 76% more expensive that the Merchant.
Can that be justified? I doubt not.
(Perhaps you are not smiling to yourself now).

Merchants can buy products in bulk and get a better deal. Your regular veterinary practice is not able to do that, especially with products that have a short shelf-life like vaccines.

Lano Lynn

with the new animal remedies regulations coming in January is it time for the farm organisations to ask minister charlie to follow the minister for housing lead and impose a limit on price increases to inflation index ?