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How to get copy of will

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  • 04-10-2020 8:45pm
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    cobzzq
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭


    How do you go about finding out if a will has been made by a family member without going to a lawyer. This concerns my grand mother and mother. Grand mother is deceased.




    Thanks.
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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭con747


    Ask your mother and other family members.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    cobzzq
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭cobzzq


    I want to do this privately.


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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭con747


    I don't know of any other way then. I doubt her solicitor will tell you anything GDPR alone never mind legal reasons.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    cobzzq
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭cobzzq


    So i go to a lawyer so.


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    karlitob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭karlitob


    con747 wrote: »
    I don't know of any other way then. I doubt her solicitor will tell you anything GDPR alone never mind legal reasons.

    How would anyone go about legally challenging a will if you don’t know if one exists or not?

    That’s probably a contradiction in terms - hopefully you know what I’m getting at? If the Will leaves a person at a disadvantage that you think is incorrect - would it not be to late to challenge it if the thing that out you at that disadvantage had happened before you knew eg sale of house.


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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭con747


    I would suggest so, but other people on here would have a better input relating to your question. Wait for some to comment.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭con747


    karlitob wrote: »
    How would anyone go about legally challenging a will if you don’t know if one exists or not?

    That’s probably a contradiction in terms - hopefully you know what I’m getting at? If the Will leaves a person at a disadvantage that you think is incorrect - would it not be to late to challenge it if the thing that out you at that disadvantage had happened before you knew eg sale of house.

    Did you read the opening post?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    bobbyy gee
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    The will becomes public record after probate

    You could ask the executor

    Executor has 12 months when person died


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    Sleeper12
    Registered Users Posts: 17,004 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I assume the family member has already died in this scenario. If there is a will & you are a beneficiary then you will be notified by the solicitor handling the estate.


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    cobzzq
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭cobzzq


    The reason i ask for advice is that my mother has been co-dependent on people her whole life. This could lead to a awkward situation.


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    karlitob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭karlitob


    con747 wrote: »
    Did you read the opening post?

    Yes I did.

    I asked a fair question. And got a snotty reply from you. What’s your point? I’m humbly sorry if the question I asked offended you.


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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭con747


    karlitob wrote: »
    Yes I did.

    I asked a fair question. And got a snotty reply from you. What’s your point? I’m humbly sorry if the question I asked offended you.

    Snotty reply?? The OP didn't ask about contesting anything is why I asked if you read the first post. If you are that easily offended not my problem:)

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    bobbyy gee
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    The only one that can claim on your grandmother estate is your mother if she dies you can't


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    bobbyy gee
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    The only one that can claim on your grandmother estate is your mother if she dies you can't


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    karlitob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭karlitob


    con747 wrote: »
    Snotty reply?? The OP didn't ask about contesting anything is why I asked if you read the first post. If you are that easily offended not my problem:)

    I didn’t say the OP did ask about contesting anything. I asked! You got offended for some reason - not me. Your reply was snotty - that’s a description. I didn’t say I was offended.

    If you don’t want to answer a question, then say so. Don’t be posting snotty replies.


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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭con747


    karlitob wrote: »
    I didn’t say the OP did ask about contesting anything. I asked! You got offended for some reason - not me. Your reply was snotty - that’s a description. I didn’t say I was offended.

    If you don’t want to answer a question, then say so. Don’t be posting snotty replies.

    Put your toys back in your pram, goodbye.:)

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    karlitob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭karlitob


    con747 wrote: »
    Put your toys back in your pram, goodbye.:)

    Loving the passive aggressive smiley faces.


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    #19
    Pistachio19
    Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭Pistachio19


    Back to the topic in hand. If there was a will and it was dealt with then a grant of probate will have issued. That is then a public document as is the will. Check out the link to see how to order a copy. You have to pay for it.

    https://courts.ie/probate-register-online

    If your grandmother made a will and your mother was a beneficiary she should have been contacted by the executor of the will or a solicitor dealing with it. When did your grandmother die?


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    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,372 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    It seems we need a register of wills in Ireland, to record the existence of wills.


    I note that a private firm is offering such a service:

    https://www.thewillregister.ie/


    Maybe we need to regulate that all wills are notified to some register?


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    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,412 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    That's an imposition on people who make wills, and may discourage them from making or updating wills. It's also a complication which could multiply disputes - e.g. which is to prevail, the earlier will which is on the register or the later will which isn't? Does the reason why the latest will was unregistered have any bearing on the answer to the question? What if we don't know why the later will was not registered?

    The bottom line is that anyone who makes a will has a blindingly obvious interest in making sure that the people who need to know that there is a will do know that. In 99 cases out of 100 is is done perfectly effectively by informal means; you tell them, or you do something obvious like making your will with your regular solicitor that your family knows about.

    In the case mentioned in the OP, if Grandma made a willl, we have no reason to think that she failed to tell the people she needed to tell. No offence to cozbbq, but there is no reason to think that grandson/granddaughter was someone she needed to tell. If he/she doesn't know whether Grandma made a will, possibly that could be because it is none of his/her business?


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    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    There is no way of finding out if some living person has made a will. If a person who is deceased has made a will during their lifetime a grant of probate may have been taken out and this can be found from the Probate Office. If no grant of probate was applied for and it cannot be found out. It is possible to put a caveat in the Probate Office so that you will be notified when there is an attempt to seek a grant of probate.


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