Schools closed until February? (part 3)

2lazytogetup

What am I on about? Teachers had a 6 month break and then another 2 week break at Xmas. And now they are looking for more days off. Kids don't spread corona virus. I know of kids stuck watching TV all day from Mar to sep. They need to be in school. And teachers are giving out.

KathleenGrant

2lazytogetup wrote: »

What am I on about? Teachers had a 6 month break and then another 2 week break at Xmas. And now they are looking for more days off. Kids don't spread corona virus. I know of kids stuck watching TV all day from Mar to sep. They need to be in school. And teachers are giving out.

If kids were watching tv March to September then their parents need to take a long hard look at themselves. Kids were meant to be remote learning till the end of June. The teachers were not on 6 months holidays and the teachers didn't order this school closure till 11th. You sound like a teenager having a tantrum.

wirelessdude01

2lazytogetup wrote: »

What am I on about? Teachers had a 6 month break and then another 2 week break at Xmas. And now they are looking for more days off. Kids don't spread corona virus. I know of kids stuck watching TV all day from Mar to sep. They need to be in school. And teachers are giving out.

Aww you poor, poor thing. Did you not get enough love as a child? Let us all give you a hug and make thing all better.

Go get a life and stop trying to get cheap likes.

And as for the TV watching, ohh my dear god the parents are lazy as sin.

Bananaleaf

KathleenGrant wrote: »

You sound like a teenager having a tantrum.

Or someone who doesn't want their kids under their feet again I'd say

Loafing Oaf

2lazytogetup wrote: »

Kids don't spread corona virus.

Dr David Nabarro, a World Health Organization COVID-19 expert, also warned yesterday that the new strain appears to be easily transmitted among children.

https://extra.ie/2020/12/24/news/irish-news/new-covid-19-strain-schools

But what standing has he next to a boardsie poster called 2lazytogetup?

helpful

I’m seeing a lot of backlash on social media about the preschools staying open. It’s very strange that the preschool next to us will be open with 22 children per class, no social distancing or pods and 3 or 4 staff in each room who are advised not to wear PPE. I would presume that a lot of the children in the preschool have siblings (possibly in our school) who won’t be in school as they shouldn’t be mixing until the 11th. So why can the preschool children mix with 20 others then go home and spread anything to their siblings? I have worked in the ECCE sector so I know a bit about how it is run and I know that every precaution will be taken to prevent the spread but this just seems so ridiculous to me.
I noticed that the statement said that these settings could open with extra safety measures but no information on what those were. Do the government actually expect extra safety measures to be implemented with 4 days notice over New Years?
Early years providers really don’t need this stress and I think it’s a disgrace that the Government so obviously treat these professionals like glorified baby sitters
Rant over

khalessi

helpful wrote: »

I’m seeing a lot of backlash on social media about the preschools staying open. It’s very strange that the preschool next to us will be open with 22 children per class, no social distancing or pods and 3 or 4 staff in each room who are advised not to wear PPE. I would presume that a lot of the children in the preschool have siblings (possibly in our school) who won’t be in school as they shouldn’t be mixing until the 11th. So why can the preschool children mix with 20 others then go home and spread anything to their siblings? I have worked in the ECCE sector so I know a bit about how it is run and I know that every precaution will be taken to prevent the spread but this just seems so ridiculous to me.
I noticed that the statement said that these settings could open with extra safety measures but no information on what those were. Do the government actually expect extra safety measures to be implemented with 4 days notice over New Years?
Early years providers really don’t need this stress and I think it’s a disgrace that the Government so obviously treat these professionals like glorified baby sitters
Rant over

Well extra safety measurements were promised during midterm and didnt materalise on the floor, they have also slashed the PPE cleaning budget claiming it was a once off payment.

So I reckon they might row back on the budget slash as extra measure. I also think they are relying on fact that they think young children dont spread it, but 0-5 carry similar levels of the virus in their noses if not more than adults.

wirelessdude01

If you look at the daily reports, since the 18th, the last day of school for alot of children, the percentage associated with school going children has dropped a good bit.

Jinglejangle69

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

If you look at the daily reports, since the 18th, the last day of school for alot of children, the percentage associated with school going children has dropped a good bit.

Nah just very few people went for tests Xmas eve Xmas day and few days after.

We'll know a lot more over the next few days as there is huge numbers coming.

I know you can't wait to say its the schools to all us plebs.

khalessi

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Nah just very few people went for tests Xmas eve Xmas day and few days after.

We'll know a lot more over the next few days as there is huge numbers coming.

I know you can't wait to say its the schools to all us plebs.

Strange post, why refer to people as plebs weird

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1343611613182451712

wirelessdude01

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Nah just very few people went for tests Xmas eve Xmas day and few days after.

We'll know a lot more over the next few days as there is huge numbers coming.

I know you can't wait to say its the schools to all us plebs.

Shouldn't the percentage remain the same so regardless of the amount being tested? That's why I didn't quote numbers.

Jinglejangle69

khalessi wrote: »

Strange post, why refer to people as plebs weird

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1343611613182451712

Sorry I'm just the pleb:)

khalessi

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sorry I'm just the pleb:)

Still dont understand why you would call yourself a pleb

Bananaleaf

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Nah just very few people went for tests Xmas eve Xmas day and few days after.

I heard them saying this on the news as a way of explaining the 4,000 backlog and to be honest, I would have found this explanation mildly comforting had it not been for the fact that in all those days that people weren't presenting for tests, the case numbers still remained way too high. Were there maybe 2 or 3 days over Xmas where the numbers were under a thousand?

beggars_bush

So the cleaning budget hasn't been slashed but rather the department has not included initial costs of buying PPE and other measures

Does this mean if schools have run out of funding for PPE gear and sanitizing spray etc that there is no additional funding?

Jinglejangle69

Bananaleaf wrote: »

I heard them saying this on the news as a way of explaining the 4,000 backlog and to be honest, I would have found this explanation mildly comforting had it not been for the fact that in all those days that people weren't presenting for tests, the case numbers still remained way too high. Were there maybe 2 or 3 days over Xmas where the numbers were under a thousand?

Yes.

2 days in a row there were 700 cases because very few were turning up.

Then huge numbers.

Necro

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Nah just very few people went for tests Xmas eve Xmas day and few days after.

We'll know a lot more over the next few days as there is huge numbers coming.

I know you can't wait to say its the schools to all us plebs.

Mod:

To the best of my knowledge your threadban was never lifted. Week off the forum for breach of this

Backstreet Moyes

Are public preschools closed where the school also has primary and secondary

mirrorwall14

beggars_bush wrote: »

So the cleaning budget hasn't been slashed but rather the department has not included initial costs of buying PPE and other measures

Does this mean if schools have run out of funding for PPE gear and sanitizing spray etc that there is no additional funding?

Can you clarify this? I’m still seeing a 40% cut in cleaning costs, not PPE (which has been correctly reduced IMO)

appledrop

I'm keeping my child out of creche this week. I know I'm lucky that have that choice but really madness government saying they are to open when schools are not too.

Our creche have been amazing + only had 1st case recently.

Not fair on them to have to open when such a mess at the moment, if they have outbreak hse will be useless.

SpacialNeeds

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/norma-foley-braced-for-a-fresh-wave-of-covid-cases-when-schools-reopen-39919685.html

What manner of headline is that.

Norma Foley braced for a fresh wave of covid cases when schools reopen.

What batientes to "schools are safe"?

They also say they haven't cut funding because the term is shorter so they're reducing it from €25 per pupil in primary to only €15 and from €40 for post primary students to €24. Is the term 40% shorter?

School staff have an incredibly difficult year ahead of them and I don't envy them the challenges they face. It must be terrifying.

TheQuietBeatle

Nuts102 wrote: »

Are public preschools closed where the school also has primary and secondary

I saw an article just now saying all preschools will close now also.

wirelessdude01

See the amount of positive swabs today?
Nearly 5700
Positivity rate of 20.7%

Sincerely doubt we will be fully back in the school buildings.

JTMan

All London primary schools to close until at least 18 January.

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1345062334218297346

Bananaleaf

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

See the amount of positive swabs today?
Nearly 5700
Positivity rate of 20.7%

Sincerely doubt we will be fully back in the school buildings.

Did you read the letter that CMO wrote to the govt on 30th Dec? Even the best-case scenario isn't good.

Link to full letter here and interesting bits of RTE article and letter attached in images.

https://www.rte.ie/documents/news/2020/12/letter-to-minister-for-health.pdf

combat14

'Our health system will not continue to cope with this level of impact' Holohan says as 1,754 new Covid-19 cases confirmed

. Everyone needs to stay at home other than for essential work or care.”

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/our-health-system-will-not-continue-to-cope-with-this-level-of-impact-holohan-says-as-1754-new-covid-19-cases-confirmed-39922122.html


not a hope schools physically opening for a while at this rate....

kippy

combat14 wrote: »

'Our health system will not continue to cope with this level of impact' Holohan says as 1,754 new Covid-19 cases confirmed

. Everyone needs to stay at home other than for essential work or care.”

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/our-health-system-will-not-continue-to-cope-with-this-level-of-impact-holohan-says-as-1754-new-covid-19-cases-confirmed-39922122.html


not a hope schools physically opening for a while at this rate....

9000 cases in the system but not been reported yet.
Again, schools repopening as normal on the 11th is not gonna happen - no matter what the politicians are saying now, Will be at least a week if not two of online only.

average_runner

kippy wrote: »

9000 cases in the system but not been reported yet.
Again, schools repopening as normal on the 11th is not gonna happen - no matter what the politicians are saying now, Will be at least a week if not two of online only.

It will.be a harsh lockdown for 2 months

Leftwaffe

But Norma said the schools will open on the 11th? And I was told they were safe?

kippy

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

But Norma said the schools will open on the 11th? And I was told they were safe?

This type of posting leaves a lot to be desired. Are you a student or a teacher?