Schools closed until February? (part 3)

Str8outtaWuhan

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

If Boris is keeping schools open will it make it more likely we will too?

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1345671169278672900?s=19

100% only way the schools stay close is if INTO put their foot down like they did last week.

wirelessdude01

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

100% only way the schools stay close is if INTO put their foot down like they did last week.

If you think the INTO put the foot down then you don't really know the INTO. I'd bet my last euro that had heard through the grapevine that the three extra days were coming and put out that letter so that it appears like they gained something meaningful for schools and their members.

NetChat101

Hopefully the current situation will have given people enough of a fright to cop on now and genuinely cut out all but absolutely essential contacts. Not sure though whether a resulting downward trend will be seen before the 11th. Maybe opening on the 18th would allow things to settle a bit. Just my thinking on it!

the kelt

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

If Boris is keeping schools open will it make it more likely we will too?

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1345671169278672900?s=19

And we will have the hypocrites who now look like Heath ledgers joker character such is the amount of time they spend speaking out of both sides of their mouths quoting the uk are sending kids back despite telling us previously what’s happening in other countries particularly the uk isn’t relevant to what should be done here.

WicklaBlaa

lulublue22 wrote: »

Seriously does it always have to turn into a little sneaky dig - No one knows what health conditions his / her family might have. My first responsibility is to my family therefore I’m prioritising my health and that of my family - if everyone took this attitude we wouldn’t be in the **** storm we are in now. Spare me the sanctimonious crap.

When teachers are in a classroom, students should be a priority. They are the responsible adult in the room. It's part of the job description.

So many amazing teachers out there. Posts like that are a disservice to them.

Health professionals have families too, when they are in work though, patients should be to the foremost of their mind.

Mrsmum

If schools are open on the 11th (although I would think not at this point in time) imo most parents will send them back with the exception of hotspots. Because the school is open, there will be no engagement/support from school to anyone choosing to stay at home apart from marking them absent. I have two exam students and if the teaching is happening at school, that's where they will be. Also for working parents with younger children, the job is not going to facilitate your personal choice to keep kids at home and in these times, you can't be asking the people who would always oblige with babysitting ie grandparents. What are the teachers here going to do with their own children, send them in or not ?

lulublue22

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

Not a dig, but just a glaring omission is your post.

Can you expand on this ? if the first priority is to his/ her health then they will surely be taking steps to maximise health and safety in the school setting which by default will maximise the health and safety of the pupils. Now if we are at the stage that adults are unable to understand the inference in text then the education system is in a far worse state than I thought.

wirelessdude01

lulublue22 wrote: »

Seriously does it always have to turn into a little sneaky dig - No one knows what health conditions his / her family might have. My first responsibility is to my family therefore I’m prioritising my health and that of my family - if everyone took this attitude we wouldn’t be in the **** storm we are in now. Spare me the sanctimonious crap.

Looks like we'll both be branded as irresponsible,lazy and selfish teachers who don't care about our students for daring to say that our own families come first.

Personally I don't subscribe to the teaching is a vocation bu!!sh!t. It's a job, one which I love but still a job.

lulublue22

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

When teachers are in a classroom, students should be a priority. They are the responsible adult in the room. It's part of the job description.

So many amazing teachers out there. Posts like that are a disservice to them.

Health professionals have families too, when they are in work though, patients should be to the foremost of their mind.

What part of the responsible adult prioritising their health do you think doesn’t also prioritise the pupils health. If you need every nuance spelled out for you than that says more about yourself than anything else.

wirelessdude01

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

When teachers are in a classroom, students should be a priority. They are the responsible adult in the room. It's part of the job description.

So many amazing teachers out there. Posts like that are a disservice to them.

Health professionals have families too, when they are in work though, patients should be to the foremost of their mind.

So if I decide to close the windows and doors and thus keep the room nice and warm but denying cold air from outside the chance to circulate am I keeping the children under my care safe?

Am I being responsible? Am I doing a disservice to my students by keeping the room warm or it is a disservice to my students to allow air circulation in my room? Which is it because it can't be a disservice for both.

Mrsmum

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

So if I decide to close the windows and doors and thus keep the room nice and warm but denying cold air from outside the chance to circulate am I keeping the children under my care safe? Am I being responsible? Am I doing a disservice to my students by keeping the room warm or it is a disservice to my students to allow air circulation in my room?

If you were teaching my children, I would want the windows open and for them to be allowed to wear ski suits if they wanted. The virus loves "nice and warm".

WicklaBlaa

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Looks like we'll both be branded as irresponsible,lazy and selfish teachers who don't care about our students for daring to say that our own families come first.

Personally I don't subscribe to the teaching is a vocation bu!!sh!t. It's a job, one which I love but still a job.

Honestly it really doesn't come across like you love your job.

wirelessdude01

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

Honestly it really doesn't come across like you love your job.

If you say so.

WicklaBlaa

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

So if I decide to close the windows and doors and thus keep the room nice and warm but denying cold air from outside the chance to circulate am I keeping the children under my care safe?

Am I being responsible? Am I doing a disservice to my students by keeping the room warm or it is a disservice to my students to allow air circulation in my room? Which is it because it can't be a disservice for both.

It had nothing to with opening the windows. Ventilation is key for limiting the spread of Covid so you are right to do this to maintain a safe environment for everyone in the classroom including the students, not just yourself and your family.

WicklaBlaa

Mrsmum wrote: »

If you were teaching my children, I would want the windows open and for them to be allowed to wear ski suits if they wanted. The virus loves "nice and warm".

As would I.

KerryConnor

I think you're putting words in his mouth. He did say both he and kids can wrap up warm. Of course the rooms need to be ventilated with this highly contagious air born virus about - in the interest of the health of everyone in the room , and their families. I'm a teacher and a parent and would like both my classroom and my kids classrooms well ventilated when we return. Honestly a few extra layers can keep you warm enough on all but the coldest days.

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

When teachers are in a classroom, students should be a priority. They are the responsible adult in the room. It's part of the job description.

So many amazing teachers out there. Posts like that are a disservice to them.

Health professionals have families too, when they are in work though, patients should be to the foremost of their mind.

wirelessdude01

Mrsmum wrote: »

If you were teaching my children, I would want the windows open and for them to be allowed to wear ski suits if they wanted. The virus loves "nice and warm".

But, but, but am I not being irresponsible by doing such a thing. Another poster claims I am.

My kids know at this tage that the windows and door are open and will remain open. Wear your thermals, wear layers, wear fleece clothing. I don't care what you are wearing unlike stories we've seen on this threads and other similar ones of schools enforcing uniform codes such as no underarmour type tops allowed. Such rubbish. We have to allow children to try and be warm while windows and doors need to be open.

Only rule in my room is no gloves while trying to write as pens tend to slip. Everything else is fair gsme to keep warm.

WicklaBlaa

KerryConnor wrote: »

I think you're putting words in his mouth. He did say both he and kids can wrap up warm. Of course the rooms need to be ventilated with this highly contagious air born virus about - in the interest of the health of everyone in the room , and their families. I'm a teacher and a parent and would like both my classroom and my kids classrooms well ventilated when we return. Honestly a few extra layers can keep you warm enough on all but the coldest days.

I agree with this completely.

WicklaBlaa

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

But, but, but am I not being irresponsible by doing such a thing. Another poster claims I am.

My kids know at this tage that the windows and door are open and will remain open. Wear your thermals, wear layers, wear fleece clothing. I don't care what you are wearing unlike stories we've seen on this threads and other similar ones of schools enforcing uniform codes such as no underarmour type tops allowed. Such rubbish. We have to allow children to try and be warm while windows and doors need to be open.

Only rule in my room is no gloves while trying to write as pens tend to slip. Everything else is fair gsme to keep warm.

I agree with opening windows. There's nothing wrong with creating a safe environment to teach in.

It was just all about you and your needs , not the students. I'm sorry I think their needs should be your priority.

Mrsmum

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

But, but, but am I not being irresponsible by doing such a thing. Another poster claims I am.

My kids know at this tage that the windows and door are open and will remain open. Wear your thermals, wear layers, wear fleece clothing. I don't care what you are wearing unlike stories we've seen on this threads and other similar ones of schools enforcing uniform codes such as no underarmour type tops allowed. Such rubbish. We have to allow children to try and be warm while windows and doors need to be open.

Only rule in my room is no gloves while trying to write as pens tend to slip. Everything else is fair gsme to keep warm.

Actually that's not what the other poster is claiming. I didn't get his/ her point at first but now I see it. However I also think you can be given the benefit of any doubt should any doubt even exist.

WicklaBlaa

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

I agree with opening windows. There's nothing wrong with creating a safe environment to teach in.

It was just all about you and your needs , not the students. I'm sorry I think their needs should be your priority.

I don't have a personal problem with you. This is my first time posting here but I have been reading and noticed your posts and tone previously.

Anyway, nothing to gain continuing with this.

Your attitude is the most powerful force in a classroom.

I wish you, and your students (first and foremost your students) well in the upcoming semester.

KathleenGrant

Wouldn't it be great if people discussed the real issue instead of arguing and nitpicking over a poster's perceived intention?

Vieira82

A friend of mine just passed me this article, don't know if it was already shared here but thought it's relevant for this subject:

COVID-19 cases in children surpass 2 million

C__MC

Government fully intend to reopen next monday
Boris doing likewise tomorrow across the water

SusanC10

What are people thoughts on this now ? What is likely to happen?
All schools reopen as they were before Christmas Holidays on the 11th ? Or go online until 18th or 25th ? Or something else ?

mirrorwall14

C__MC wrote: »

Government fully intend to reopen next monday
Boris doing likewise tomorrow across the water

Boris is in trouble from what I read last night. Unions and court cases starting demanding the data that says it is safe with the level of virus in the community

combat14

Ireland's hospitals will be "overrun" by the third wave of Covid-19, with up to 3,000 people admitted by the end of the month if the virus continues on its current rate of exponential growth.

The stark warning was issued by Dr Colm Henry, the chief clinical officer with the HSE, as positive Covid-19 case numbers soared to more than 3,000 last night and are expected to double to 6,000 within days.

The crisis facing hospitals has been compounded by chronic staff shortages due to the virus.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/hospitals-now-expect-3000-admissions-by-end-of-month-39924796.html


hopefully they can start tracing and testing close contacts again.. otherwise no way schools should be open

C__MC

SusanC10 wrote: »

What are people thoughts on this now ? What is likely to happen?
All schools reopen as they were before Christmas Holidays on the 11th ? Or go online until 18th or 25th ? Or something else ?

Depends on the cases come mid week
They opened the schools in October November when it was relatively high
If the cases drop back to 1000-1500, they'll open

combat14

C__MC wrote: »

Depends on the cases come mid week
They opened the schools in October November when it was relatively high
If the cases drop back to 1000-1500, they'll open

what is relatively high i.e. what were numbers in oct/nov when schools reopened....

C__MC

combat14 wrote: »

what is relatively high i.e. what were numbers in oct/nov when schools reopened....

Actually cant remember