Schools closed until February? (part 3)

Icyseanfitz

alroley wrote: »

I really don't think schools will be open on the 11th.

Everything coming from government or the media would indicate otherwise

eviltwin

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Everything coming from government or the media would indicate otherwise

I don't understand how they can.

I'm still working but from tomorrow I can no longer meet clients face to face, it has to be remote until at least the end of the month. That's a directive from the HSE to my organisation. How can the Dept of Education then say its safe for 30 odd people to be in room together for hours at a time? Its a total contradiction.

alroley

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Everything coming from government or the media would indicate otherwise

They said that schools would definitely open on Jan 6 and then literally later that day they announced it would actually be the 11th.

No chance they will open.

Feets

alroley wrote: »

I really don't think schools will be open on the 11th.

Same...im think March😞

TheValeyard

alroley wrote: »

They said that schools would definitely open on Jan 6 and then literally later that day they announced it would actually be the 11th.

No chance they will open.

They'll open of numbers go below 2500. Which they may do since close contact tracing is gone.

Lashes28

I won't be sending my three in either. Mind you if the numbers in my town/county were on the lower end I would definitely consider it.

Icyseanfitz

alroley wrote: »

They said that schools would definitely open on Jan 6 and then literally later that day they announced it would actually be the 11th.

No chance they will open.

Just wait, norma will go to ground, the minister of transport or agriculture will confirm schools open on Monday week, mehole will give a inspirational speech on how kids are safe and doing a fantastic job on top of giving us renewed faith with extra (not imaginary) supplies and procedures.
2 weeks back everything will be a ****show but norma will appear out of hibernation to say schools are safe and its all the "household transmissions" That are the issue, praise the kids, and low and behold, a no homework day.

Clouron

TheValeyard wrote: »

They'll open of numbers go below 2500. Which they may do since close contact tracing is gone.

Agree.

The lesson in all of this....now don't shoot me....is that in fact schools are controlled places and not a driver. The surge only started after the schools closed on 22nd...the pubs, shops, home gatherings, and restaurants!

Clouron

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Just wait, norma will go to ground, the minister of transport or agriculture will confirm schools open on Monday week, mehole will give a inspirational speech on how kids are safe and doing a fantastic job on top of giving us renewed faith with extra (not imaginary) supplies and procedures.
2 weeks back everything will be a ****show but norma will appear out of hibernation to say schools are safe and its all the "household transmissions" That are the issue, praise the kids, and low and behold, a no homework day.[/quo

Lol...i definitely love no homework days. Thats it in a nutshell

Icyseanfitz

Clouron wrote: »

Agree.

The lesson in all of this....now don't shoot me....is that in fact schools are controlled places and not a driver. The surge only started after the schools closed on 22nd...the pubs, shops, home gatherings, and restaurants!

Schools are a driver, its been proven worldwide, they are not the sole driver, as nothing is with a virus like this.

khalessi

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Just wait, norma will go to ground, the minister of transport or agriculture will confirm schools open on Monday week, mehole will give a inspirational speech on how kids are safe and doing a fantastic job on top of giving us renewed faith with extra (not imaginary) supplies and procedures.
2 weeks back everything will be a ****show but norma will appear out of hibernation to say schools are safe and its all the "household transmissions" That are the issue, praise the kids, and low and behold, a no homework day.

MM already mentioned schools are safe. It was the pause between that and the finish of "for children", that caught my attention and that was before we knew about London variant. They know some children get it, most dont get sick but can pass it on and they know it is not safe for the adults working there.

And sure what does that matter.

eviltwin

khalessi wrote: »

MM already mentioned schools are safe. It was the pause between that and the finish of "for children", that caught my attention and that was before we knew about London variant. They know some children get it, most dont get sick but can pass it on and they know it is not safe for the adults working there.

And sure what does that matter.

That's it in a nutshell for me. I'm pretty sure my son will be okay if he got it, he's pretty healthy so should recover well. But if he brought it into the house..... its my husband and older child I'm worried about, both have chronic conditions and I can't say the same for them so I'm not willing to take the chance.

Icyseanfitz

eviltwin wrote: »

That's it in a nutshell for me. I'm pretty sure my son will be okay if he got it, he's pretty healthy so should recover well. But if he brought it into the house..... its my husband and older child I'm worried about, both have chronic conditions and I can't say the same for them so I'm not willing to take the chance.

And god forbid it came into your house it would in all likelihood just end up classed as a household transmission thereby alleviating any fault on open schools

mirrorwall14

NPHET said over and over that schools are safe if the community is. Positivity is nearly 22%. There is a backlog of cases. Our hospitals are initiating surge capacity. I’m cocooning because my asthma has flared up and I’m on oral steroids again.

The community is NOT safe. If NPHET come out and say that schools can open for all students on the 11th I will lose any respect for them at all. And if they say close them and the government leave them open....

I’m so appreciative that I’m one of the lucky few teachers designated very high risk and working from home. God help those who were deemed high risk and made work

khalessi

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

And god forbid it came into your house it would in all likelihood just end up classed as a household transmission thereby alleviating any fault on open schools

Ahhhh but that was a pre Christmas issue, now everywhere is like schools,;)no proper track and tracing, so just isolate and wait. Looking at hospital staff isolating I can only see the same for teachers and absecences for kids.

St.Spodo

When did "schools are safe", that is, that schools represent a relatively moderate risk of infectious outbreaks when levels of the virus are manageable in the community, come to mean "schools won't increase cases when between 1 and 1.5% of the country is covid positive, there are 100,000 close contacts every week, the HSE are predicting that hospitals will reach capacity in the next week or two and a new, more transmissble strain is spreading at a rate we cannot measure yet?

And why does the Minister for Education think that it is acceptable that schools have the same protection measures for level 1/old variant scenario and in the diabolical sitatuation we find ourselves in now?

khalessi

St.Spodo wrote: »

When did "schools are safe", that is, that schools represent a site of moderate risk of infection when levels of the virus are manageable in the community, come to mean "schools won't increase cases when between 1 and 1.5% of the country is covid positive, there are 100,000 close contacts every week, the HSE are predicting that hospitals will reach capacity in the next week or two and a new, more transmissble strain is spreading at a rate we cannot measure yet?

WHen the government needed it to.


And why does the Minister for Education think that it is acceptable that schools have the same protection measures for level 1/old variant scenario and in the diabolical sitatuation we find ourselves in now?

When getting reelected and votes became important.

Dr Turk Turkelton

In my opinion the only reason schools haven't been closed is because of the amount of teachers who didn't step up to the plate last March/ April.
The Government know that it will be same this time with the same excuses from the same lazy teachers.
If like other countries they had of stepped up and got on with things instead of feeble excuses about "the department" and "gdpr" and just taught online instead of treating it like an extended holiday all kids would be learning from home for the next two months.

kippy

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

As me and others have said, the government don't give a fiddlers for the safety of staff and children so long as they can look like they are doing the correct thing. Schools will be open on the 11th, a surge of "household cases" Will happen again/continue and we will be restricted to 1km exercise.

What a ****ing joke.

Schools wont be open on the 11th.

kippy

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

In my opinion the only reason schools haven't been closed is because of the amount of teachers who didn't step up to the plate last March/ April.
The Government know that it will be same this time with the same excuses from the same lazy teachers.
If like other countries they had of stepped up and got on with things instead of feeble excuses about "the department" and "gdpr" and just taught online instead of treating it like an extended holiday all kids would be learning from home for the next two months.

Well, that's just nonsense.

beggars_bush

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

In my opinion the only reason schools haven't been closed is because of the amount of teachers who didn't step up to the plate last March/ April.
The Government know that it will be same this time with the same excuses from the same lazy teachers.
If like other countries they had of stepped up and got on with things instead of feeble excuses about "the department" and "gdpr" and just taught online instead of treating it like an extended holiday all kids would be learning from home for the next two months.

Hard to teach kids who have no internet or device to access the teaching
Anyway, most schools coped

History Queen

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

In my opinion the only reason schools haven't been closed is because of the amount of teachers who didn't step up to the plate last March/ April.
The Government know that it will be same this time with the same excuses from the same lazy teachers.
If like other countries they had of stepped up and got on with things instead of feeble excuses about "the department" and "gdpr" and just taught online instead of treating it like an extended holiday all kids would be learning from home for the next two months.

Hilarious

Summer2020

kippy wrote: »

Schools wont be open on the 11th.

How can you be so sure ?

Stateofyou

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

In my opinion the only reason schools haven't been closed is because of the amount of teachers who didn't step up to the plate last March/ April.
The Government know that it will be same this time with the same excuses from the same lazy teachers.
If like other countries they had of stepped up and got on with things instead of feeble excuses about "the department" and "gdpr" and just taught online instead of treating it like an extended holiday all kids would be learning from home for the next two months.

That has to be one of the most arseways/backwards take on a situation ever. Honestly, boards should do rewards for the craic, and submit this comment!

The reason schools haven't been closed is because "the economy," and the only reason we don't have a cohesive national remote learning plan is in my opinion due to the laziness and lack of forward thinking from those in government. Who treated March-Sept as some type of extended holiday refusing to do what other countries have done, and therefore failing the children of Ireland.

wirelessdude01

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Everything coming from government or the media would indicate otherwise

Look at the language they are now using. Use of the word "intention" and similar. Nothing for definite.

Stateofyou

beggars_bush wrote: »

Hard to teach kids who have no internet or device to access the teaching
Anyway, most schools coped

Northern Ireland's kids will all be going remote. Somehow they don't see/have the same obstacles up there.

Icyseanfitz

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

In my opinion the only reason schools haven't been closed is because of the amount of teachers who didn't step up to the plate last March/ April.
The Government know that it will be same this time with the same excuses from the same lazy teachers.
If like other countries they had of stepped up and got on with things instead of feeble excuses about "the department" and "gdpr" and just taught online instead of treating it like an extended holiday all kids would be learning from home for the next two months.

Seems like we had a nice break from this kind of crap for a while, was bound to resurface, its educators fault for being whiney and schools are safe so shut up is switching to its educators fault for whining and now schools arnt safe and wont close because of them

User142

If cases are too high we should bring forward the Easter and Summer holidays to cover us. Run the schools through the Summer months to make it up.

Locotastic

kippy wrote: »

Schools wont be open on the 11th.

They might though, I wouldn't be so sure.

They may be half empty but open for the 11th, I don't know either way what they will decide to do but leaving it until next Thursday to let people know is not acceptable.

daheff

beggars_bush wrote: »

Hard to teach kids who have no internet or device to access the teaching
Anyway, most schools coped

Impossible when the teachers don't even try.

My kids got an email on a Sunday evening with work for the week ahead. Most likely it was the teachers lesson plan that they already had ready or had to do anyways.

Kids were barely given enough work to cover one school day not to mind a week.