Schools closed until February? (part 3)

vid36

Tony has concerns with schools reopening.

Sanjuro

vid36 wrote: »

Tony has concerns with schools reopening.

Well if he didn't, I'd question his sanity.

Midnight Sundance

If schools shut will creches be closing too ? Or will they have to stay open like this week?

Greensoup

A lot of secondary students leave books/exam papers etc at school over the Christmas holidays.....makes everything even more awkward.

Icyseanfitz

vid36 wrote: »

Tony has concerns with schools reopening.

Did he or anyone else voice any of these concerns or just brush over them as usual

SusanC10

Does anyone have any idea why the powers that be are waiting until Wednesday to make a decision?
Are they still hoping to open everything as normal next Monday ?

SusanC10

Greensoup wrote: »

A lot of secondary students leave books/exam papers etc at school over the Christmas holidays.....makes everything even more awkward.

Our son in Secondary hasn't been allowed to leave anything at all at school since September. No lockers etc

Stateofyou

SusanC10 wrote: »

Does anyone have any idea why the powers that be are waiting until Wednesday to make a decision?
Are they still hoping to open everything as normal next Monday ?

There seems to be enough leaks now to know they're staying closed. I think schools and parents should start planning for that.
I think they are now trying to hammer out the details as regards to how long, provisions for special schools, frontline workers, etc.

Edited with a link:
However, a Fine Gael minister told Independent.ie: “schools will not fully reopen next week”. A Fianna Fáil minister said they would be “very surprised” if the Government did not to keep schools closed for longer after delaying their reopening until January 11.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/ministers-no-longer-expect-schools-to-fully-reopen-on-january-11-39930326.html

alroley

Greensoup wrote: »

A lot of secondary students leave books/exam papers etc at school over the Christmas holidays.....makes everything even more awkward.

In our school, they have left all books at home since September as they don't have lockers anymore.

vid36

He said he has concerns about growing rates of infection among young people and its implications for the provision of education.

MerlinSouthDub

The_Brood wrote: »

Keeping schools open has cost lives,

Schools were open throughout November with falling case numbers. What costs lives is adults socialising and meeting inside.

Stateofyou

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Schools were open throughout November with falling case numbers. What costs lives is adults socialising and meeting inside.

And how many of those adults socialising had covid brought into the home from school. Plenty of cases there to back that up.

MerlinSouthDub

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Schools were open throughout November with falling case numbers. What costs lives is adults socialising and meeting inside.

It's the covid variant that is the problem. Increased transmission in children. The picture is different from back in November.

MerlinSouthDub

Stateofyou wrote: »

And how many of those adults socialising had covid brought into the home from school. Plenty of cases there to back that up.

Yeah, blame the schools, it's a tired record and the data just doesn't support it. Cases have gone completely out of control since the schools closed.

beggars_bush

SusanC10 wrote: »

Does anyone have any idea why the powers that be are waiting until Wednesday to make a decision?
Are they still hoping to open everything as normal next Monday ?

Department of Education

They hate changing their mind

Stateofyou

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Yeah, blame the schools, it's a tired record and the data just doesn't support it. Cases have gone completely out of control since the schools closed.

It's a tired record that schools are safe places, at all times.

Data does support it actually, which is hard to do considering the manipulations and failures of the testing/tracing system.

There is a lag you know. Schools are part of the community so they all feed back into each other. That's just common sense.

Bananaleaf

Greensoup wrote: »

A lot of secondary students leave books/exam papers etc at school over the Christmas holidays.....makes everything even more awkward.

We got ours to take them all home, but the genuine reason for this was for a deep clean.

Curious to know how other schools are doing a decent deep clean if the students are leaving all their books in school during the mid terms and long weekends?

Sanjuro

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Yeah, blame the schools, it's a tired record and the data just doesn't support it. Cases have gone completely out of control since the schools closed.

Correct. If the schools were to blame, the level of infections would have skyrocketed in September. They did increase, but in line with the relaxation of other restrictions. The catastrophic increase in infections coencided with the government throwing everything out for grabs at the end of November with the fantasy hope that people would behave themselves.

Icyseanfitz

Can we not do the schools are safe places bs again please, whatever about how safe they where before Christmas, they are not now, no place with large gatherings of people is. Schools = community and vice versa

jimmytwotimes 2013

Bananaleaf wrote: »

We got ours to take them all home, but the genuine reason for this was for a deep clean.

Curious to know how other schools are doing a decent deep clean if the students are leaving all their books in school during the mid terms and long weekends?

Our place didn't even get a regular clean before September

Stateofyou

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Can we not do the schools are safe places bs again please, whatever about how safe they where before Christmas, they are not now, no place with large gatherings of people is. Schools = community and vice versa

I honestly haven't got the energy or the f€cks to rake it all over again.

Stateofyou

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Our place didn't even get a regular clean before September

Why not?

MerlinSouthDub

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Can we not do the schools are safe places bs again please, whatever about how safe they where before Christmas, they are not now, no place with large gatherings of people is. Schools = community and vice versa

Fully agree. Schools won't we safe again until infection rates in the community are back to low levels.

BonsaiKitten

SusanC10 wrote: »

Does anyone have any idea why the powers that be are waiting until Wednesday to make a decision?
Are they still hoping to open everything as normal next Monday ?

Hoping to force the unions into action and thus shift the blame from the government imo.

Icyseanfitz

England has gone remote with primary and secondary except for front line workers children

MerlinSouthDub

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

England has gone remote with primary and secondary except for front line workers children

Keeping childcare fully open also.

Icyseanfitz

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Keeping childcare fully open also.

At least they've come out with an actual strategy unlikely our bunch of fools, im so fed up with our leadership right now, we where so proactive at the beginning but we're useless now.

tom1ie

So if schools were supposed to go back today (if there was no covid), I presume the children would be doing schoolwork this week.
So I’m just wondering did anyone get any school work or guidance or any correspondence from their primary school on how we should be teaching our kids?
This is a genuine question I’m not trying to get anyone’s back up here.

wirelessdude01

Exams cancelled in England.

wirelessdude01

tom1ie wrote: »

So if schools were supposed to go back today (if there was no covid), I presume the children would be doing schoolwork this week.
So I’m just wondering did anyone get any school work or guidance or any correspondence from their primary school on how we should be teaching our kids?
This is a genuine question I’m not trying to get anyone’s back up here.

We weren't meant to be back until Wednesday anyway.