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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Some highlights from the Pennsylvania rally

    The wall is going to be completed very soon.
    Biden is going to eliminate US boarders. It's signed into the manifesto
    Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren took it away.
    We're going to win so big.
    The lines are record setting, they're in line right now and it's looking good.
    If Biden wins, your borders are gone, your jobs are gone, your healthcare is gone. It's going to be Venezuela.
    I took on the corrupt media.
    As soon as we win the first call is going to be Iran to make a deal.
    We will land the first woman on the moon and the first astronaut on mars.

    We're beating them, their head will explode on November 3rd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Scot_in_Dublin


    Graham wrote: »
    Some highlights from the Pennsylvania rally

    The wall is going to be completed very soon.
    Biden is going to eliminate US boarders. It's signed into the manifesto
    Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren took it away.
    We're going to win so big.
    The lines are record setting, they're in line right now and it's looking good.
    If Biden wins, your borders are gone, your jobs are gone, your healthcare is gone. It's going to be Venezuela.
    I took on the corrupt media.
    As soon as we win the first call is going to be Iran to make a deal.
    We will land the first woman on the moon and the first astronaut on mars.

    We're beating them, their head will explode on November 3rd.

    Yeah....weird he hasn't mentioned the Hunter thing. Seeing as it's 100% true* from some folks on here (*may not be true at all)

    I'm assuming he's going to also get back that money that the very fine folks of that group stole for the wall right?

    And of course for the outer space stuff, Space Force! :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin



    And of course for the outer space stuff, Space Force! :p

    Ummm, excuse me! WE WOULD NOT HAVE SPACE FORCE WITHOUT BIGLY TRUMP AND ALL HE DID FOR OUTER SPACE!!! LIKE NO ONE EVER DID BEFORE

    *and over 200,000 dead from that darn Chinese covfefe virus


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 273 ✭✭Hqrry113


    Does it really matter tbh we all know the people who are really in charge are far behind the scenes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Scot_in_Dublin


    amdublin wrote: »
    Ummm, excuse me! WE WOULD NOT HAVE SPACE FORCE WITHOUT BIGLY TRUMP AND ALL HE DID FOR OUTER SPACE!!! LIKE NO ONE EVER DID BEFORE

    *and over 200,000 dead from that darn Chinese covfefe virus

    Yeah, Steve Carrell though is the main force behind Space Force. Bigly so. And sure if it wasn't for Trump not listening to anyone it would have been 2 million dead /sarcasm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Our votes are in (2 of us), can relax now and wait for the overhyped anticlimactic election night. We had ranked choice, so I am most interested to see how third party senate candidates do in our state. I am weekly dumping about 1kg of mail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Scot_in_Dublin


    Our votes are in (2 of us), can relax now and wait for the overhyped anticlimactic election night. We had ranked choice, so I am most interested to see how third party senate candidates do in our state. I am weekly dumping about 1kg of mail.

    I can only imagine with all the flyers etc coming into you. Whatever way you voted, it's cool you both did!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Scot_in_Dublin


    Well now. Could this be the reason for the whole push to 'show' Joe Biden is in cahoots with China:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

    Seems he's paid a bit more tax to China than the US also....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Well now. Could this be the reason for the whole push to 'show' Joe Biden is in cahoots with China:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

    Seems he's paid a bit more tax to China than the US also....

    China Trump.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Again, there is nothing in and of itself incriminating about that photo. But christ, can you imagine what those Qanon wackos would do if there was a photo of Biden or Clinton with their child and Epstein.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Hqrry113 wrote: »
    Does it really matter tbh we all know the people who are really in charge are far behind the scenes.

    I'd be tempted to agree with you, if it weren't for the fact that one of the candidates is a poor leader, known liar, consistently disrespects all around him and trades on fearmongering and division and is really not fit enough to lead s country.


    (Cue lots of whstaboutary etc..)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Can America Do It All?
    In fiscal year 2020, which ended on Sept. 30, the U.S. government set some impressive new records.

    The deficit came in at $3.1 trillion, twice the previous record of $1.4 trillion in 2009, which was set during the Great Recession, and three times the 2019 deficit of about $1 trillion.

    Federal spending hit $6.5 trillion, one-third of U.S. gross domestic product, a share unrivaled except for the later years of World War II when federal spending exceeded 40% of GDP.

    The U.S. national debt, $14 trillion when Donald Trump took office, now stands at $21 trillion, roughly the same size as U.S. GDP.

    In fiscal year 2021, the deficit could be of the same magnitude as 2020.

    <snip>

    The Trump era has already produced a significant increase in defense spending, while defense commitments have seen no reduction.

    We are obligated to defend some 30 NATO allies from the Atlantic to the Baltic and Black seas. In the Middle and Near East, we have troops stationed in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Afghanistan and Djibouti on the Horn of Africa.

    source


    Debts don't matter until they do and this has been building a long time now.
    Here is the M2 money supply from the USA explanation of the term found at this link. It shows more savings.

    aki1tai.png

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭westdublin




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Well now. Could this be the reason for the whole push to 'show' Joe Biden is in cahoots with China:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

    Seems he's paid a bit more tax to China than the US also....

    Trump has paid more taxes to China than to the US. A golden soundbite for Biden during the debate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Well now. Could this be the reason for the whole push to 'show' Joe Biden is in cahoots with China:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

    Seems he's paid a bit more tax to China than the US also....

    It's been pretty much established now that whenever Trump accuses Biden or other people of doing things, he has actually done those things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Trump has paid more taxes to China than to the US. A golden soundbite for Biden during the debate.

    There is no proof that Trump did anything other than comply with the law in the US.

    Investment in property is a high risk game. Tax law is setup to encourage people to take that risk. Think of all the people he employed and they tax they paid. Think of the economic benefit that new construction brings.

    Taking this simplistic view really just betrays bias.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    There is no proof that Trump did anything other than comply with the law in the US.

    Investment in property is a high risk game. Tax law is setup to encourage people to take that risk. Think of all the people he employed and they tax they paid. Think of the economic benefit that new construction brings.

    Taking this simplistic view really just betrays bias.

    We've been here before. All that is necessary is that Trump releases his tax returns and then we can see what a true patriot he is. Until then, all we know is that he pays less tax than a nurse. Not least because he avails of bankruptcy laws every year. Because he's a terrible businessman whose daddy isn't around to bail him out anymore. And so Trump up to his neck in debt. And pays more tax to China than the US. But he's a true patriot because reasons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Debts don't matter until they do and this has been building a long time now.
    Debts don't matter until it looks as if the Democrats will win.

    McConnell has already given up on Trump, he is going to bank that SC Judge, withhold Covid relief, trash the economy for Biden's inauguration and then shout about the defecit for the next 4 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Debts don't matter until it looks as if the Democrats will win.

    McConnell has already given up on Trump, he is going to bank another SC Judge , withold Covid relief, trash the economy for Biden inauguration and then shout about the defect for the next 4 years.

    Wonder how much much of that debt is to China, and how much of that Trump will write off as compensation for Corona deaths.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭weisses


    There is no proof that Trump did anything other than comply with the law in the US.

    Investment in property is a high risk game. Tax law is setup to encourage people to take that risk. Think of all the people he employed and they tax they paid. Think of the economic benefit that new construction brings

    $750


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    weisses wrote: »
    $750

    Some people seem to think Trump is clever at minimising his taxes through tax breaks, but there is a simpler explanation for his low tax bill - he has been losing money, not making it, since The Apprentice ended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Good morning,, its Wednesday morning...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,463 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    weisses wrote: »
    $750

    The home of someone who pays $750 tax annually
    ic80nl53tst51.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,361 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    There is no proof that Trump did anything other than comply with the law in the US.

    Right but this was tax paid in China, a greater amount than was being paid in US federal taxes at the same time.

    It comes down to optics. Biden should jump on this revelation as it doesn't look good on the surface


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,471 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    There is no proof that Trump did anything other than comply with the law in the US.

    is that why the IRS are investigating one of the write-offs he took?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    8-10 wrote: »
    Right but this was tax paid in China, a greater amount than was being paid in US federal taxes at the same time.

    It comes down to optics. Biden should jump on this revelation as it doesn't look good on the surface

    Yes, because exploiting nonsense get votes. Who cares about fair analysis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    is that why the IRS are investigating one of the write-offs he took?

    An investigation means guilt. There have been no partisan investigations into Trump.

    We can save lots of money and just put anyone accused of crime directly in prison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,471 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yes, because exploiting nonsense get votes. Who cares about fair analysis.

    trump does it all the time so you cant complain when his opponents do it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    trump does it all the time so you cant complain when his opponents do it.

    So, it's a race to the bottom then?


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