Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

osarusan

Politicians (and especially US politicians with their binary system in which they are always always on opposites of the aisle with no potential for coalition) are masters of extracting every ounce of political capital they can from anything.

Guiliani has (supposedly) had all this dirt for months and months - plenty of time to get all the ducks in a row, get corroborating statements from various people involved, and have it all ready to be released at the perfect time to hammer Joe Biden.

Instead, we got these rumours that even Fox wouldn't touch, released in a drip-feed manner at a time when approximately 25-40% of the electorate have already cast their vote.

If there really is any devastating content among all the dirt that supposedly exists, Giuliani et al. have done a terrible job of exploiting it.

astrofool

osarusan wrote: »

Politicians (and especially US politicians with their binary system in which they are always always on opposites of the aisle with no potential for coalition) are masters of extracting every ounce of political capital they can from anything.

Guiliani has (supposedly) had all this dirt for months and months - plenty of time to get all the ducks in a row, get corroborating statements from various people involved, and have it all ready to be released at the perfect time to hammer Joe Biden.

Instead, we got these rumours that even Fox wouldn't touch, released in a drip-feed manner at a time when approximately 25-40% of the electorate have already cast their vote.

If there really is any devastating content among all the dirt that supposedly exists, Giuliani et al. have done a terrible job of exploiting it.

The caveman thinking is that it worked 4 years ago, so let's do something similar this time. We will likely see more Trump tax information, so they at least need to make up something to counter it.

Brian?

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I have actually been touched by a creepy old man. Long long time ago on a bus, I didn't like it one bit. Rudy however is not creepy old man and Maria Bakalova was flirting with him big time.


Here's a real creep, he is genuinely stomach churning, those poor girls...

And the circle is complete.

Joe is a creep.
Joe is senile.
Joe won’t turn up for the debates.
Joe is corrupt.
Joe is a creep.
Repeat.

duploelabs

Brian? wrote: »

And the circle is complete.

Joe is a creep.
Joe is senile.
Joe won’t turn up for the debates.
Joe is corrupt.
Joe is a creep.
Repeat.

And each one is a projection of Trump

MoonUnit75

Brian? wrote: »

And the circle is complete.

Joe is a creep.
Joe is senile.
Joe won’t turn up for the debates.
Joe is corrupt.
Joe is a creep.
Repeat.

You're right, he's the kind of corrupt creep who does turn up for debates.

MoonUnit75

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

You're right, he's the kind of corrupt creep who does turn up for debates.

Unproven allegations doesn't make him remotely corrupt.

MoonUnit75

duploelabs wrote: »

And each one is a projection of Trump

We've got the best creeps. Great creeps. The most corrupt creeps we've ever had, just the greatest.

Brian?

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

You're right, he's the kind of corrupt creep who does turn up for debates.

I think you’ll fine he’s an ethical gentleman who turns up for debates.

statesaver

Cody montana wrote: »

Were they at war?

They were in 1948 and again in 1967. Great to see two former enemies coming together in peace, isn't it ?

Trump deserves to be recognised for bringing about historic peace agreements in the Middle East. What is it now 4 or 5 peace agreements ?

Overheal

Tell me how wrote: »

Trump fans have all of a sudden come in to possession with a new found morality.

A literal book has been written about Trump using his position for his and his own families personal gain.



Have you any comment on this

Honestly? I can see Trump fans seeing this as a plus not a negative. Abusing the institution for profit is just “smart” you know

Overheal

The president told his cult to go watch the polls and so they do

https://www.mediaite.com/news/maskless-trump-fan-blocks-masked-biden-supporter-at-florida-poll-hes-asking-for-trouble-lets-give-it-to-him/

Voter intimidation incidents are becoming more prevalent by the day. Here, Trump voters, maskless, block others from casting ballots.

:mad:

Overheal

Oreos are too gay now for the right wing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-latest-sheer-idiocy-from-conservative-homophobes-boycotting-oreos/2020/10/23/f816fc60-14a6-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.html

Rainbow cream filling has upset conservative groups.

Nike shoes, NFL gear, Keurigs, Oreo cookies. The silly things the right boycotts. And then they cry when Tucker Carlson loses sponsors. Geez

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Tell me how wrote: »

Truth hurts kiddo.

In fairness, he has a point. Biden only looks like "the good guy" because the other guy is Trump.

And that's if he looks like the good guy at all.

Overheal

Jared and Ivanka deliver Streisand Effect to a billboard in Times Square that is unflattering of them and their Covid response.

https://twitter.com/aynrandpaulryan/status/1319821537520750592?s=21

Lawyers looking at the lawsuit have mocked its frivolity. Its protected speech.

stefanovich

Phoebas wrote: »

The FBI said they had nothing to add to their previous statement but they don't comment on ongoing investigations (the ongoing investigation into a possible Russian link).
Ratcliffe said he wasn't involved in the FBI investigation, so he was speaking on the basis of the information (or lack thereof) available to him (but will no doubt become available to him when the FBI investigation is concluded, at which point we will know if there is actionable intelligence).
So, the question about the laptop is an open one.

What isn't in question is that Giuliani was working with a Russian agent who was trying to 'employ manipulation and deceit to attempt to influence elections in the United States'.
Regardless of the particulars of the laptop story, this casts Giuliani in a very poor light, hench the schadenfreude when he himself becomes the victim of some underhand tactics.

Rudy would argue he is fighting the good fight and trying to keep a criminal out of the whitehouse. Remember he brought Mafia and Farc to justice.

stefanovich

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

In fairness, he has a point. Biden only looks like "the good guy" because the other guy is Trump.

And that's if he looks like the good guy at all.

Trump is not the one whose family is in business deals with Whitey Bulger’s brother and the Chinese Communist Party.

Cody montana

statesaver wrote: »

They were in 1948 and again in 1967. Great to see two former enemies coming together in peace, isn't it ?

Trump deserves to be recognised for bringing about historic peace agreements in the Middle East. What is it now 4 or 5 peace agreements ?

They were at war in 1967?
53 years ago!

Well done on trump for bring peace 53 years ago.

Igotadose

stefanovich wrote: »

Trump is not the one whose family is in business deals with Whitey Bulger’s brother and the Chinese Communist Party.

Trump had a bank account in China to pay taxes from. Those taxes go to the CCP. Seems like pretty obvious 'dealings with the CCP' to me.

Overheal

stefanovich wrote: »

Trump is not on any flight logs. I’ve reviewed them myself.

Clearly not

https://www.insider.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-unsealed-2019-8

Chris_Heilong

Apparently there is a video of a sorting office were a one of the counters/sorters can be seen writing on someone else's ballot. Skip to 5:17

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

Trump is not the one whose family is in business deals with Whitey Bulger’s brother and the Chinese Communist Party.

Bulger's brother was not a criminal so it's a tad irrelevant. Assume you're basing the CCP thing on unverified emails so irrelevant. Meanwhile Trump has lots of dealings with China and his daughter has benefited from US policy on China, that is verifiable. Oh and he's got that Chinese bank account.

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Apparently there is a video of a sorting office were a one of the counters/sorters can be seen writing on someone else's ballot. Skip to 5:17

Conspiracy theory forum with you tbh.

Overheal

Igotadose wrote: »

Trump had a bank account in China to pay taxes from. Those taxes go to the CCP. Seems like pretty obvious 'dealings with the CCP' to me.

The account is still open.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/521997-tax-records-show-trump-maintains-a-chinese-bank-account-nyt

statesaver

Cody montana wrote: »

They were at war in 1967?
53 years ago!

Well done on trump for bring peace 57 years ago.

He got two former enemies to sit side by side and sign an agreement to normalise relations. So we agree, well done Trump.

extra gravy

Overheal wrote: »

The account is still open.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/521997-tax-records-show-trump-maintains-a-chinese-bank-account-nyt

Didn't he lie during the debate and say it was closed?

Overheal

extra gravy wrote: »

Didn't he lie during the debate and say it was closed?

Well Trump never lies so now I just don’t know



(Yes he did)

Kermit.de.frog

Nearing the time of year

Cody montana

statesaver wrote: »

He got two former enemies to sit side by side and sign an agreement to normalise relationships. So we agree, well done Trump.

Yes, well done Trump.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/24/sudans-political-parties-reject-israeli-normalisation-deal

‘Ignition of new war:’ Sudan political parties reject Israel deal
Sudanese demonstrate in the capital against the deal that several political parties say transitional gov’t is not authorised to sign

“Our people will abide by their historical positions and work through a broad front to resist normalisation and maintain our support for the Palestinian people in order for them to obtain all their legitimate rights.”

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

stefanovich wrote: »

Trump is not the one whose family is in business deals with Whitey Bulger’s brother and the Chinese Communist Party.

And how exactly do you know this? Or are you saying all of Trump's deals are legit and above board?

stefanovich

Igotadose wrote: »

Trump had a bank account in China to pay taxes from. Those taxes go to the CCP. Seems like pretty obvious 'dealings with the CCP' to me.

Paying tax is not the same as racketeering.

stefanovich

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

And how exactly do you know this? Or are you saying all of Trump's deals are legin and above board?

How can I prove the absence of crime with no evidence of crime?

What?