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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I do not know who Kidchameleon is. I have not come across him before elsewhere on boards. I only occasionally drop in here as the tone is generally sickening and full of sneer. The only posts I have read of his are literally a handful on this thread. It is probable that I totally disagree with very many things he believes in as I find that is a general truth in my life. Share some opinions, completely opposed on others with most people. I am by nature a contrarian.
    My only purpose here this morning is to quote the rampant personalised baiting and direct ad hominen insults towards opponents by the supposed stalwarts of this thread. Phoebas calling another contributor a "failed boards poster and all round idiot" is a prime example of the egregious sneering and condescension employed against people who happen to disagree, to whatever degree, on this thread.

    Hey....if the big old clown shoe fits....;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭weisses


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    That is your argument - to imply some sort of suggestion of homo erotic infatuation. Amazing the level of ad hominen people are allowed get away with in here.

    He is fascinated by the man... He gives him goosebumps, some posts he ends with MAGA, going by his own posting he is attracted to the character Trump ...

    It is what it is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    He had a drug addiction problem. That doesn't make him an extremely disturbed young man. Sure, Don Jnr appears to be pretty disturbed on the average day and looks to have a coke problem...


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I believe Joe Biden has failed as a parent towards his son Hunter. It is quite clear that Hunter is an extremely disturbed young man. IMHO, that is ultimately the responsibility of his parents. It was their job to steer him in the right direction but they clearly failed.

    What about all the Trump kids stealing from a charity?
    And Don Jr having an affair?
    And Don Jr. shooting an elephant and other exotic animals?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    It's pretty clear that Chameleon has some hero worship going on. There have been responses to him that go beyond ad hominem btw but he simply refuses to address them. Eg does he view all parents of drug addicts or alcoholics as failures?




    Erm, that entire post outside of one line is directed at Trump... Is he a member of the site?

    Read it again. "Kids world" is the clause that indicates to whom the adjectives relate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...

    Every thing in this post, has been alleged of Trump in the past, yet you apparently do not think the same of him?

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...

    So Trump's parents are failures too if you look at all the issues together as he is guilty of all of the things you mentioned. "Allegedly". The hypocrisy of your posts might be lost on you but everyone else can see it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...

    You have just listed things about Donald Trump.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    And as your parents were unable to teach you empathy and the ability to forgive, we can say your parents are failures.

    Isn’t it funny how the ones claiming to be on the side of empathy and decency are clearly the type who would be salivating, spare rocks at their feet on the front row of a stoning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,502 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...

    Wait - I thought you were on Trump's side...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...

    So drug addict, divorce and affairs are the only ones proven from the list.. None are particularly unusual to occur during substance abuse issues. Also, is divorce even that big a deal? Meanwhile Donald has had multiple affairs including with pornstars, has been divorced multiple times. Has engaged in multiple corrupt business dealings(including a fake university) and paid off said pornstar. On top of that his son likely has a drug problem if not Donald himself. Trump also has had far more alleged about himself.

    So why the double standard? In fact, much of that you'd likely praise him for getting away with. All of the above directly reflects on Trump btw rather than Fred Trump.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,319 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Drug addict, sleeping with prostitutes on camera, allegedly engaging in corrupt business dealings, affairs, divorce. I am looking at all of these issues together. One of these issues on their own you could argue is normal but comon...


    Are you for real? :D The answer is obviously no, but the question has to be asked anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    Isn’t it funny how the ones claiming to be on the side of empathy and decency are clearly the type who would be salivating, spare rocks at their feet on the front row of a stoning.

    I don't know what you're on about but I doubt anyone here wants to see trump stoned. Seeing him voted out of office will be enough for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    8-10 wrote: »
    Don't forget this was the same poster that not long ago was in staunch defence of the parents of the boys who murdered Ana Kriegel:



    Your young son committing murder while a minor living with you is no reflection on you as a parent but god forbid they take drugs as an adult not under your care

    Oh well found sir


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭iliketomoveit


    It would be the easiest decision in the world to vote Biden. He's not an absolute failure of a human being like Trump and strikes me as being a very decent man. Your desperation is amusing.


    His son was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company whilst Biden was involved in the Obama administrations Ukraine policy. The "laptop from hell' now suggests Biden may have been a beneficiary of that. His ex-military business partner has confirmed this is the case.



    The mainstream media have applied a double standard for him vs. Trump on that. Can you imagine if something similar was found on the Trump side?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Yes I tried to reason with people, since that has failed...



    ?? He is POTUS, married to a model, has multiple children, traveled the world, has legions of fans and is a billionaire.

    Donald Trump is a weak man's vision of what a strong man looks like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Yes I tried to reason with people, since that has failed...



    ?? He is POTUS, married to a model, has multiple children, traveled the world, has legions of fans and is a billionaire.

    Donald Trump is a weak man's vision of what a strong man looks like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,610 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Ardillaun wrote: »
    Here’s a typical example from that bastion of grumpy geezers, The Villages in Florida:

    Can't argue that they're old in the Villages. But my mom who lived in a nearby retirement village, lived alongside a lot of 'old Reds from the 40s'. Lots of *extremely* left wing elderly folks living there. I don't think the stereotype is all that accurate.

    I'm certain the 2000 election results were fixed because Mom told me (as a resident of West Palm Beach in fact), that she didn't know *anyone* that voted for GWB. Not a one, and they all punched out their chads just fine according to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    You have just listed things about Donald Trump.


    If you believe the mainstream media then that's fair enough. The problem is, none of it is alleged as it pertains to Hunter. It is on camera for all to see. And if you don't want to look at the evidence, believe me, it is true! This young man obviously did not have a strong male role model growing up. Perhaps Joe was too busy? Whilst the Trumps may have had a few issues (as all family's do), they have all turned into well rounded adults, loved by their parents and now serving their country. Whats Hunter up to at the moment? Hiding?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    His son was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company whilst Biden was involved in the Obama administrations Ukraine policy. The "laptop from hell' now suggests Biden may have been a beneficiary of that. His ex-military business partner has confirmed this is the case.



    The mainstream media have applied a double standard for him vs. Trump on that. Can you imagine if something similar was found on the Trump side?

    A republican inquiry found nothing Biden did nothing wrong.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I'm sure Gruffa lept to his defence then aswell.

    The past participle of leap is leapt or leaped, p. For future reference.
    And I have never gone into any thread about that poor girl's murder - there are some threads I could not bear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    His son was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company whilst Biden was involved in the Obama administrations Ukraine policy. The "laptop from hell' now suggests Biden may have been a beneficiary of that. His ex-military business partner has confirmed this is the case.



    The mainstream media have applied a double standard for him vs. Trump on that. Can you imagine if something similar was found on the Trump side?

    This guy?

    Ex-Hunter Biden associate's records don't show proof of Biden business relationship amid unanswered questions
    Tony Bobulinski had claimed the former VP was involved in discussions about his son's dealings overseas

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭weisses


    If you believe the mainstream media then that's fair enough. The problem is, none of it is alleged as it pertains to Hunter. It is on camera for all to see. And if you don't want to look at the evidence, believe me, it is true! This young man obviously did not have a strong male role model growing up. Perhaps Joe was too busy? Whilst the Trumps may have had a few issues (as all family's do), they have all turned into well rounded adults, loved by their parents and now serving their country. Whats Hunter up to at the moment? Hiding?


    Trump ****ing another woman while his wife was giving birth ... You got a warped view on good parenting and/or being a good parent


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you believe the mainstream media then that's fair enough. The problem is, none of it is alleged as it pertains to Hunter. It is on camera for all to see. And if you don't want to look at the evidence, believe me, it is true! This young man obviously did not have a strong male role model growing up. Perhaps Joe was too busy? Whilst the Trumps may have had a few issues (as all family's do), they have all turned into well rounded adults, loved by their parents and now serving their country. Whats Hunter up to at the moment? Hiding?

    Hey Chameleon, I've listed a load of things from the list that Trump is guilty of. Are you choosing to ignore it? Also most of the Hunter Biden stuff you listed is unproven... And it's pretty common that Donald was a pretty absent parent, he said as much over the years.

    I'll be honest, if a family member boasted that he'd grab women by the "pussy", I'd be disowning them. Meanwhile that's like a fraction of the stuff Trump has done

    Hunter isn't up for election btw so why would anyone care where he is at the moment? You seem to have reached incredible levels of desperation at this stage....


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I don't know what you're on about but I doubt anyone here wants to see trump stoned. Seeing him voted out of office will be enough for me.

    If i wanted to see Trump stoned i would just watch one of his rallies "sniff sniff"


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,502 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    The past participle of leap is leapt or leaped, p. For future reference.
    And I have never gone into any thread about that poor girl's murder - there are some threads I could not bear.

    Grammar Nazi? That all you have here?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    The past participle of leap is leapt or leaped, p. For future reference.
    And I have never gone into any thread about that poor girl's murder - there are some threads I could not bear.

    And the word was ad hominem not "ad hominen", but we all ignored that.
    For future reference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Donald Trump is a weak man's vision of what a strong man looks like.

    And a trashy person's vision of what someone of wealth is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Hey Chameleon, I've listed a load of things from the list that Trump is guilty of. Are you choosing to ignore it?

    I have addressed it, see post #5762
    Also most of the Hunter Biden stuff you listed is unproven...

    Its on camera, I have seen it.
    I'll be honest, if a family member boasted that he'd grab women by the "pussy", I'd be disowning them.

    Get ready to disown most of your family then. That was locker room talk, it is normal for a bunch of men to engage in it.
    Hunter isn't up for election btw so why would anyone care where he is at the moment?

    This is deflection, Hunter is the son of the candidate. My argument is that Joe has done a terrible job in raising Hunter therefore cannot be trusted with the keys of The White House. Say what you want about Trumps role as a parent, he has performed his duties as president perfectly IMHO. His response to Covid for example was the correct balance of health and economics IMHO.
    You seem to have reached incredible levels of desperation at this stage....

    I'm as confident as I was many months ago of four more years although I was wrong in thinking that Joe would step down. I thought he would be gone at this stage. I knew about the corruption allegations a year ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    If you believe the mainstream media then that's fair enough. The problem is, none of it is alleged as it pert

    The terms MSM or mainstream media are really handy indicators. They tell me that I don't need to read any further, no point trying to understand the other person's viewpoint because they are already too far gone.

    In previous years it was 'fake moonlanding' more recently it's anti vaxx or flat earth. But right now believing MSM is the 'in thing'.


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