Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

Billy Mays

The locker room talk excuse still getting rolled out :pac: :pac:

*must defend daddy for everything*

Hysteria and emotionalism, have you looked at a Trump rally lately?

Gruffalux

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hysteria and emotionalism, have you looked at a Trump rally lately?

Do better then.

Gruffalux

Cody montana wrote: »

So you watched Trumps 60 minute interview?

Perfect example of snide hollow nothingness.
Anyway enjoy yerselves.

Gruffalux

Gruffalux wrote: »

Do better then.

Any of Biden appearances.

Cody montana

Gruffalux wrote: »

Perfect example of snide hollow nothingness.
Anyway enjoy yerselves.

That's how he behaved though.
You literally described him.

km991148

Billy Mays wrote: »

The locker room talk excuse still getting rolled out :pac: :pac:

*must defend daddy for everything*

Nah it's grand if you can justify. Same with the bleach comment was "obviously" sarcasm..

Yeah right ok Don like sarcasm in a pandemic is the mark of true leadership.

Both true indicators of the man himself, and tells us how far society has fallen as a result of his election to office.

Kidchameleon

km991148 wrote: »

The terms MSM or mainstream media are really handy indicators. They tell me that I don't need to read any further, no point trying to understand the other person's viewpoint because they are already too far gone.

I ask you to answer this honestly... If the key players in the Hunter Biden laptop situation were in fact say... Eric and Donald Trump, do you think the mainstream media would be as quiet? I personally think there would be wall to wall coverage. The MSM are covering for the Biden's IMHO. Whats your opinion? Can you see why I do not trust the MSM?

PropJoe10

Gruffalux wrote: »

Perfect example of snide hollow nothingness.
Anyway enjoy yerselves.

Yeah, it's really grim when the President of the United States is asked tough questions isn't it? How dare the interviewer. I hope there's a public enquiry into it.

duploelabs

Gruffalux wrote: »

Perfect example of snide hollow nothingness.
Anyway enjoy yerselves.

Quality astute debating when faced with an adroit response, well done sir

Kidchameleon

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I have addressed it, see post #5762



Its on camera, I have seen it.



Get ready to disown most of your family then. That was locker room talk, it is normal for a bunch of men to engage in it.



This is deflection, Hunter is the son of the candidate. My argument is that Joe has done a terrible job in raising Hunter therefore cannot be trusted with the keys of The White House. Say what you want about Trumps role as a parent, he has performed his duties as president perfectly IMHO. His response to Covid for example was the correct balance of health and economics IMHO.



I'm as confident as I was many months ago of four more years although I was wrong in thinking that Joe would step down. I thought he would be gone at this stage. I knew about the corruption allegations a year ago.

Congrats, you've watched a person's sex tape while they were suffering from serious substance abuse issues, personally I wouldn't. It's not a great look for you tbh, to happily invade a person's worst moments?

You also didn't address my post where I pointed out that Trump is guilty of most of the faults of Hunter. You're now downplaying Trump's parenting while attacking Biden's? You lack consistency...

Also you'll find there are plenty both on this site and in the US that would view the narrative about Biden being a bad parent cause his son has a drug problem to be pretty awful. Beau Biden was an attorney general in Delaware so according to your logic, that must make Biden a great parent. In terms of Hunter, lives get derailed due to drug abuse. It's not unusual and to just lob the blame at their parents with no basis is gross tbh.

In terms of the corruption allegations against Biden, all unproven and they've been investigated by the Republicans. They found no fault...

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I ask you to answer this honestly... If the key players in the Hunter Biden laptop situation were in fact say... Eric and Donald Trump, do you think the mainstream media would be as quiet? I personally think there would be wall to wall coverage. The MSM are covering for the Biden's IMHO. Whats your opinion? Can you see why I do not trust the MSM?

I'd probably hold off judgment until some proper verification. And I don't think media outlets would be sharing screenshots as proof. I also probably wouldn't be watching sex tapes of either of them as they're in the midst of crack addiction, cause I have some human decency etc.

Kidchameleon

Phoebas wrote: »

This must be a parody account.

I think this is going to be the key misunderstanding that will cost the democrats the election. Firstly, I get it, Covid is very bad, nobody is saying otherwise. But most people will not admit that they will want food on their tables and jobs to go to ahead of any strict lock downs. Nobody will say it out loud, but they will say it at the ballot box IMHO.

km991148

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I ask you to answer this honestly... If the key players in the Hunter Biden laptop situation were in fact say... Eric and Donald Trump, do you think the mainstream media would be as quiet? I personally think there would be wall to wall coverage. The MSM are covering for the Biden's IMHO. Whats your opinion? Can you see why I do not trust the MSM?

I can see all-sorts of problems with journalism, but to tag the entire industry with a handy three letter acronym that discretion everything ever written is wrong. The theory you propose can't be verified in the way you describe.

Besides, the NY Post, that is 'MSM' (a tabloid, but mainstream enough) so by that logic the thing shouldn't even be discussed?

I ask you this: news organisations on the main still have some level of journalistic integrity (falling standards and commercial pressure, yes, but most still hold some standard) and require sources and evidence.

Who does it suit most to discredit this?

Kidchameleon

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think this is going to be the key misunderstanding that will cost the democrats the election. Firstly, I get it, Covid is very bad, nobody is saying otherwise. But most people will not admit that they will want food on their tables and jobs to go to ahead of any strict lock downs. Nobody will say it out loud, but they will say it at the ballot box IMHO.

How do you think older voters feel about being viewed as entirely expendable?

Professor Moriarty

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think this is going to be the key misunderstanding that will cost the democrats the election. Firstly, I get it, Covid is very bad, nobody is saying otherwise. But most people will not admit that they will want food on their tables and jobs to go to ahead of any strict lock downs. Nobody will say it out loud, but they will say it at the ballot box IMHO.

Not the millions of people who lost their relative or friend to Trump's Indifference and ignorance.

PropJoe10

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think this is going to be the key misunderstanding that will cost the democrats the election. Firstly, I get it, Covid is very bad, nobody is saying otherwise. But most people will not admit that they will want food on their tables and jobs to go to ahead of any strict lock downs. Nobody will say it out loud, but they will say it at the ballot box IMHO.

How do you think letting the virus run rampant and unchecked will help the economy in the long run? Do you think that this approach is going to help consumer confidence among the 50+ age group, for example? Or does it not really make any difference if another few hundred thousand of that age group dies?

duploelabs

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think this is going to be the key misunderstanding that will cost the democrats the election. Firstly, I get it, Covid is very bad, nobody is saying otherwise.

Eh, well this is awkward...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/one-day-it-s-like-a-miracle-it-will-disappear-trump-on-covid-19-1.4370294?mode=amp

"January 24th tweet: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

- February 23rd to reporters: “We’re very much involved. We’re very, very cognisant of everything going on. We have it very much under control in this country.”

- February 27th at the White House: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

- March 10th after meeting Republican senators: “This was unexpected. And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

- March 13th to reporters: “Yeah, no, I don’t take responsibility at all, because we were given a - a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.”

- March 15th at a White House briefing: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”


- March 18th tweet: “I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the borders from China - against the wishes of almost all.”

- April 3rd at a White House briefing: “With the masks, it’s going to be really a voluntary thing. You can do it, you don’t have to do it. I’m choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it and that’s okay ... As I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens ... I don’t see it for myself, I just don’t.”

- April 23rd at a White House briefing: “I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that.” Pressed later about the issue, Trump said he was not encouraging people to ingest disinfectant and portrayed his remarks as sarcasm.

- May 21st on a Ford plant visit: “I wore one (a mask) in the back area. I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”

- July 12th before publicly donning a mask for the first time: “When you are in a hospital, especially in that particular setting when you are talking to a lot of soldiers, people that in some cases just got off the operating table, I think it’s a great thing to wear a mask.”

- July 21st announcing a change of heart at a White House briefing: “We’re asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask, get a mask. Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact, they’ll have an effect and we need everything we can get... I will use it, gladly ... Anything that potentially can help ... is a good thing.”


- September 29th at a presidential debate, after producing a mask from his pocket: “I wear masks when needed. When needed, I wear masks.” Ridiculing Democratic rival Joe Biden for wearing them regularly, he said: “I don’t wear masks like him. Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from them and he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

- September 29th, when asked during the debate whether he was worried about the disease spreading at his rallies: “Well, so far we have had no problem whatsoever. It’s outside - that’s a big difference according to the experts. And we do them outside, we have tremendous crowds, as you see.... We had no negative, no negative effect. We’ve had no negative effect, and we’ve had, 35 40,000, people at some of these rallies.”–Reuters

Kidchameleon

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you think older voters feel about being viewed as entirely expendable?

If I were an older voter... I wouldn't like to see my children going through another recession, therefore I'd be voting for the candidate who had the courage to give consideration to the economy in his response to Covid. Parents are selfless when it comes to their children and would die for their child. Biden wants to shut down the country, its just wrong IMHO!

Kidchameleon

PropJoe10 wrote: »

How do you think letting the virus run rampant and unchecked will help the economy in the long run? Do you think that this approach is going to help consumer confidence among the 50+ age group, for example? Or does it not really make any difference if another few hundred thousand of that age group dies?

Well firstly, he isn't letting it run rampant and unchecked. He is balancing the economy and restrictions better than Biden would IMHO (he proposes to lock-down the entire country and make masks mandatory etc.) Take a look at Sweden, where are the piles of bodies after they did not lock down?

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

If I were an older voter... I wouldn't like to see my children going through another recession, therefore I'd be voting for the candidate who had the courage to give consideration to the economy in his response to Covid. Parents are selfless when it comes to their children and would die for their child. Biden wants to shut down the country, its just wrong IMHO!

The country is in recession now, under Trump.

The president doesn't have the authority to close or open states.

8-10

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well firstly, he isn't letting it run rampant and unchecked. He is balancing the economy and restrictions better than Biden would IMHO

What has he done specifically for the economy? He's effectively just sat back and let State governors implement their own rules then publicly criticise those he doesn't agree with.

I haven't seen any federal mandates on opening businesses or anything for the economy's benefit. Just a lot of doing nothing and downplaying it

Kidchameleon

Kidchameleon wrote: »

If I were an older voter... I wouldn't like to see my children going through another recession, therefore I'd be voting for the candidate who had the courage to give consideration to the economy in his response to Covid. Parents are selfless when it comes to their children and would die for their child. Biden wants to shut down the country, its just wrong IMHO!

Dear God, this selfless parents nonsense. It is not necessary for hundreds of thousands to die. This is demonstrated by the rest of the world who are faring far better. Also a rampant virus will not allow the economy to stabilise.

You can sell it as Trump being courageous but it's more a case that he couldn't care less about the deaths. Biden wants to get a handle on the virus. Like they don't even have federal rules on wearing a mask, that's gonna make it a hell of a lot easier to open the economy if they follow the advice of experts.

Gruffalux

duploelabs wrote: »

well done sir

That is Madam to you. Or M'lady if you prefer.

gmisk

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well firstly, he isn't letting it run rampant and unchecked. He is balancing the economy and restrictions better than Biden would IMHO (he proposes to lock-down the entire country and make masks mandatory etc.) Take a look at Sweden, where are the piles of bodies after they did not lock down?

Sweden is no way comparable to america let's be honest. They have a high percentage of single households, they don't socialise and mix in the same way, they also don't have I would argue the same obsession with their rights to do whatever they fancy doing basically. Entirely different mindset
Sweden is also now implementing local lockdowns.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think this is going to be the key misunderstanding that will cost the democrats the election. Firstly, I get it, Covid is very bad, nobody is saying otherwise. But most people will not admit that they will want food on their tables and jobs to go to ahead of any strict lock downs. Nobody will say it out loud, but they will say it at the ballot box IMHO.

Ermmm, Trump said that, he said it was one guy, it would go away like a miracle.

weisses

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Take a look at Sweden, where are the piles of bodies after they did not lock down?

ah Sweden

Uppsala, a city of 230,000 people about an hour’s drive north of Stockholm, on Tuesday became the first place in Sweden to announce tougher localized guidance aimed at slowing a spike in cases of COVID-19, which authorities say has put hospitals there under pressure.

PropJoe10

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well firstly, he isn't letting it run rampant and unchecked. He is balancing the economy and restrictions better than Biden would IMHO (he proposes to lock-down the entire country and make masks mandatory etc.) Take a look at Sweden, where are the piles of bodies after they did not lock down?

Sweden is a totally different country and population demographic to the US. And regarding the economy - what he should've been doing is setting a federal guideline and example from the start. Wear masks and work together. Instead of denying the scientific advice he's been given and going after state governors in public. His response to this has been a joke.

weisses

gmisk wrote: »

Sweden is no way comparable to america let's be honest. They have a high percentage of single households, they don't socialise and mix in the same way, they also don't have I would argue the same obsession with their rights to do whatever they fancy doing basically. Entirely different mindset
Sweden is also now implementing local lockdowns.

Also just to add the US is a country with a very unhealthy population in general

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

duploelabs wrote: »

And a trashy person's vision of what someone of wealth is.

Why shpuld a person is wealth be beyond criticism...?

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well firstly, he isn't letting it run rampant and unchecked. He is balancing the economy and restrictions better than Biden would IMHO (he proposes to lock-down the entire country and make masks mandatory etc.) Take a look at Sweden, where are the piles of bodies after they did not lock down?

"Breaking: US average of new daily Covid cases now at its highest point of pandemic

Over the last 7-days, US added 481,372 new cases – the most the nation has added in a single week, according to JHU.

This includes two highest single days, Fri & Sat, both eclipsing 80,000."


Yes he has.