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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,305 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1314342990639329281?s=19

    Dear god this is terrifying. They are so dumb.

    The guy at the end who says he's doing much better under Trump than under Obama and that he supports Trump. Turns out he works for a debt relief company :pac: Literally unbelievable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭threeball


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Saw this on FB a few weeks back. The question keeps coming up, why will people vote for the #IMPOTUS. A bit of a screed, but I think very realistic, it's pointless to engage with the true believers.
    ---


    The question was posed, "Why do people continue supporting Trump no matter what he does?" A lady named Bev answered it this way:
    “You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence.
    They don't give a sh*twhat he does. He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period.
    He absolutely realizes that and plays it up. They love it. He knows they love it.
    The fact that people act like it's anything other than that proves to them that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.
    If you keep getting caught up in "why do they not realize this problem" and "how can they still back Trump after this scandal," then you do not understand what the underlying motivating factor of his support is. It's fcuk liberals, that's pretty much it.
    Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable, and they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense?
    Because they're not even keeping track of any coherent narrative, it's irrelevant. Fcuk liberals is the only relevant thing.
    Trust me; I know firsthand what I'm talking about.
    That's why they just laugh at it all because you all don't even realize they truly don't give a fcuk about whatever the conversation is about.
    It's just a side mission story that doesn't matter anyway.
    That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever.
    Fcuk liberals.
    Look at the issue with not wearing the masks.
    I can tell you what that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature, and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal.
    You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness.
    And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred.
    And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me.
    Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness.
    Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness.
    They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
    Kindness = weakness. Honesty = weakness.
    Compromise = weakness.
    They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do.
    They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
    Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”

    The ironic thing is the movement that has helped created this deep division is actually the Ultra PC/Woke movement. A lot of people feel marginalised and almost under attack for very mild opinions which pushes them to an extreme and then you get the cohort who take it ten steps further. The milder form of Trump supporter will feel like any sort of view which isn't acceptable to the infinitely offended leaves them open to ridicule so they seek safety in the groups which push back against the counterview. Its completely understandable up to a point as this PC/woke rubbish has reached a ridiculous level where half the world has to second guess their every move.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And some Americans are really stupid, for calling other people stupid. :rolleyes:

    It's the losing strategy of the left.

    Do people like Bill Maher actually think they achieve anything by deriding and mocking millions of their fellow citizens?

    People's views just become more deeply entrenched when you mock and ridicule them. You don't change people's mind (if that is in fact your goal), by trying to paint people as being below you either morally or intellectually. Just for simply having a different political persuasion.

    People like Maher might get a few chuckles. But they are driving more people away from liberalism in the US, because of their arrogant sneering attitude to anyone who doesn't share their views.

    Bill Maher will be laughing all the way to 2024 - with Trump as his president for another 4 years! :)

    And some Americans are really stupid, for calling other people stupid. :rolleyes:

    It's the losing strategy of the right.

    Do people like Donald Trump actually think they achieve anything by deriding and mocking millions of their fellow citizens?

    People's views just become more deeply entrenched when you mock and ridicule them. You don't change people's mind (if that is in fact your goal), by trying to paint people as being below you either morally or intellectually. Just for simply having a different political persuasion.

    People like Trump might get a few chuckles. But they are driving more people away from cohesion and unity in the US, because of their arrogant sneering attitude to anyone who doesn't share their views.


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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yep, real life and a TV show are such a great comparison!!!

    In fairness, that show provoked outrage because "it was too political". Including annoyance over drawing attention to real life events such as the Tulsa Massacre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,313 ✭✭✭PropJoe10




    Just came across this on YouTube, "law and order" president indeed. Absolutely disgusting.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,554 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    In fairness, that show provoked outrage because "it was too political". Including annoyance over drawing attention to real life events such as the Tulsa Massacre.
    Are they all normal people in the show? Anybody able to fly or have super strength?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    PropJoe10 wrote: »


    Just came across this on YouTube, "law and order" president indeed. Absolutely disgusting.

    I would disagree with the guy Frank on one thing.

    he says that Trump doesn't fully realise the impact of his statements. I believe he really does. Once or twice is a slip-up, this is a clear pattern and is tagerted at a particular segment.

    People love to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, and completely understandable. It is almost too much to accept that the POTUS is actively doing these things. Bigging up radical groups, showing hatred and fear, inflaming already heightened tensions. We like to believe that those at the very top will find some way to deal with this types of issues, not actively promote them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    And some Americans are really stupid, for calling other people stupid. :rolleyes:

    It's the losing strategy of the left.

    Do people like Bill Maher actually think they achieve anything by deriding and mocking millions of their fellow citizens?

    People's views just become more deeply entrenched when you mock and ridicule them. You don't change people's mind (if that is in fact your goal), by trying to paint people as being below you either morally or intellectually. Just for simply having a different political persuasion.

    People like Maher might get a few chuckles. But they are driving more people away from liberalism in the US, because of their arrogant sneering attitude to anyone who doesn't share their views.

    Bill Maher will be laughing all the way to 2024 - with Trump as his president for another 4 years! :)

    I am really curious.... what is the attraction to Trump?
    He is falling apart.... crikey who calls themselves a remarkable physical specimen, I nearly p*ssed myself when I heard that!

    Imagine if Biden said this

    "California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water." -- Trump


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Ande1975 wrote: »
    I am really curious.... what is the attraction to Trump?

    I think that post, claiming to be from Reddit, hits the nail on the head.

    As each of Trumps lies have been exposed, as more truth has come out about his affairs, corruption, he cover ups. Everything is excused.

    The wall wasn't built, fine he never really meant a wall or the whole thing.
    HC not locked up, fine its the deep state anyway
    Economy in tatters, fine because it due to Covid so isn't his fault.

    The Reddit post made perfect sense. The reason none of that matters, is that it isn't the reason. The reason is that Trump makes them feel like winners, makes them feel like they are getting one over the 'Libs'.

    And that feeling is pretty potent. To think that you are part of the winning team, especially when you felt like a loser for so long.

    So it pointless trying to discuss it logically, without understanding that premise. To argue facts is worthless, when the whole thing is about emotions.

    Hence why Trump goes on about taking away guns, losing freedom, socialism etc. Its all about triggering feelings in the person, getting them scared of the bogeyman. People will accept an awful lot when they fear the unknown.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    This is what the world has come to
    President Donald Trump is apparently going to have a “medical evaluation” on television. In an announcement from Fox News, the network said Trump is set to do his first on-camera interview since his COVID-19 diagnosis with Tucker Carlson tonight. But, in a significantly more interesting bit of the announcement, Fox News confirmed: “Dr. Marc Siegel will conduct a medical evaluation and interview during the program.

    Does anyone seriously believe that Siegel - He of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" fame will give Trump anything other than a clean bill of health?

    If he wants to allay concerns about his health there are two simply pieces of data that need to be released.

    The date of his last negative test prior to the Positive one and a set of test results dated today/yesterday showing a negative result.

    Him undergoing some kind of sham TV medical is utterly meaningless.

    So what if his Temperature is normal on the TV - Are they going to do a blood test to prove he hasn't been taking medication to manage it etc. etc. ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭weisses


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Hows the left coming along these days .
    25 days left folks.
    The match is over, near 4 years and ye havent laid a glove on him.
    Its 10-1 and 5 minutes left.

    Who knows if their will be a re-match, either way this one is over.
    Trump is the victor , and all the left have is their memories of the days they triumphed porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, their impeachment fail, etc etc...

    History has been written folks.

    Oohh lads .. Love starting the weekend with a good aul chuckle ... thanks bud


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Or that time that Trump called people that didn't support him "Human Scum"


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Emory Limited Oat


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Hows the left coming along these days .
    25 days left folks.
    The match is over, near 4 years and ye havent laid a glove on him.
    Its 10-1 and 5 minutes left.

    Who knows if their will be a re-match, either way this one is over.
    Trump is the victor , and all the left have is their memories of the days they triumphed porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, their impeachment fail, etc etc...

    History has been written folks.

    To begin with, neither Clinton nor Biden are 'the left'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,451 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Hows the left coming along these days .
    25 days left folks.
    The match is over, near 4 years and ye havent laid a glove on him.
    Its 10-1 and 5 minutes left.

    Who knows if their will be a re-match, either way this one is over.
    Trump is the victor , and all the left have is their memories of the days they triumphed porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, their impeachment fail, etc etc...

    History has been written folks.

    Since there's a few pointing out the codswallop in this, Trump was impeached (just like Clinton) but wasn't removed from office. Still was impeached then and forever more


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yep, real life and a TV show are such a great comparison!!!

    It's not me but rather Trump supporters that saw a TV show about violent white supremacists wanting to violently overthrow their government and immediately though "hey, they're talking about me!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I'm also seeing headlines about Biden now hosting a town hall on ABC on Thursday. Has Donald "Biden is dodging debates!" Trump officially declared that he will be dodging this debate yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,168 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Hows the left coming along these days .
    25 days left folks.
    The match is over, near 4 years and ye havent laid a glove on him.
    Its 10-1 and 5 minutes left.

    Who knows if their will be a re-match, either way this one is over.
    Trump is the victor , and all the left have is their memories of the days they triumphed porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, their impeachment fail, etc etc...

    History has been written folks.


    New York are gonna have their day in court with him to name but one of the many court cases he will be defending against for the rest of his life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,451 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    It's not me but rather Trump supporters that saw a TV show about violent white supremacists wanting to violently overthrow their government and immediately though "hey, they're talking about me!"

    Yeah, those types tend to not have a firm grasp of reality when it comes to TV, sure they believe that Trump is a successful and profecient businessman


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not me but rather Trump supporters that saw a TV show about violent white supremacists wanting to violently overthrow their government and immediately though "hey, they're talking about me!"

    It was a little bit bizarre that the complaints were that it was too political. Meanwhile the original comic was incredibly political. Even the likes of Captain America was incredibly political, sure he even beat up Nazis back in the day including Hitler.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Hows the left coming along these days .
    25 days left folks.
    The match is over, near 4 years and ye havent laid a glove on him.
    Its 10-1 and 5 minutes left.

    Who knows if their will be a re-match, either way this one is over.
    Trump is the victor , and all the left have is their memories of the days they triumphed porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, their impeachment fail, etc etc...

    History has been written folks.

    Absolutely, the comment by HC, which Trump and his supporters wereso aghast at that they still cannot talk of it without taking the smelling salts.

    So you perfectly understand how Trump calling Harris a monster, calling people that don't agree with him politically as looking to destroy America, by saying that voting Biden will mean the end of the suburbs, you agree that none of that is helpful or will bring any of those that agree with them to their side.

    The HC comment stands out because it is so unusual and was seen as rare misstep by her. On the other hand, is is the day to day norm for Trump.

    Seeing as you are so against it, can I assume you want to get rid of Trump?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,588 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Hillary and calling TRump supporters a basket of deplorables comment comes to mind .

    Hows the left coming along these days .
    25 days left folks.
    The match is over, near 4 years and ye havent laid a glove on him.
    Its 10-1 and 5 minutes left.

    Who knows if their will be a re-match, either way this one is over.
    Trump is the victor , and all the left have is their memories of the days they triumphed porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, their impeachment fail, etc etc...

    History has been written folks.

    Something tells me that your account will be closed when Biden wins, I reckon most of his most vocal supporters on here will skulk off into the night only returning a few days later under new names to start all over again for four years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    People should compare how Trump reacts to BLM or other 'left' wing protestors, including those looking to take down stutues, to how he reacted on the news of the militia looking to kidnap a governor and overthrow the government.

    Tells you all you need to know about him.

    Sure wrecking property is bad, but that was a case of domestic terrorism and instead of coming out solidly against them he points out that she is actual awful at her job, with the implication that if she did better she wouldn't be threatened like that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,588 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Well whatever I choose to do , I am 100% sure of one thing if Biden wins .

    I aint gonna be like most of the anti-Trumpers here and waste 4 years of my life cheering on the equivalent of porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, and an impeachment fail ...

    Remember when the left said Avenatti might run for President , and CNN had him on like 30 times in 30 days , all the anti-TRumpers thought he was TRumps kryptonite.
    Sort of like the Mueller probe, jeez how long did that go on to fall flat on its face. I mean that was years, years of hope invested in that and in the end, whaddya got ... nothin.
    Can you imagine how much time anti-Trumper posters wasted on that.
    The list of failed 'new dawns' for the TDS sufferers in the looney left is long and never to be forgotten.

    Like I say whatever I do if Biden wins , it wont be wasting years of my life on red herrings like those.

    That's a whole lot of nothing in that post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    That's a whole lot of nothing in that post.

    Not really. Only 10 minutes ago he was telling us the battle was already over, History had already been written.

    And then out of nowhere, we get a posting telling us that they have already started thinking of what they are going to do when Trump does lose.

    It tells us a great deal actually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Well whatever I choose to do , I am 100% sure of one thing if Biden wins .

    I aint gonna be like most of the anti-Trumpers here and waste 4 years of my life cheering on the equivalent of porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, the Mueller nothing burger, and an impeachment fail ...

    Remember when the left said Avenatti might run for President , and CNN had him on like 30 times in 30 days , all the anti-TRumpers thought he was TRumps kryptonite.
    Sort of like the Mueller probe, jeez how long did that go on to fall flat on its face. I mean that was years, years of hope invested in that and in the end, whaddya got ... nothin.
    Can you imagine how much time anti-Trumper posters wasted on that.
    The list of failed 'new dawns' for the TDS sufferers in the looney left is long and never to be forgotten.

    Like I say whatever I do if Biden wins , it wont be wasting years of my life on red herrings like those.

    How are those efforts to lock up Obama and Hillary coming along


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,451 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    coming along great.

    the lock her up chant will never be forgotten
    the lock her up chant played its part in winning 2016 .. mission accomplished ..

    come to think of it , I thought the left were suppossed to be the ones with the creative imagination
    do they have any catchy slogans of names . Calling someone Htlr is hardly original.

    lock her up .. well that tune is in popular culture now ...
    sleepy Joe
    mad maxine
    pencil neck schiff
    fredo cuomo
    these are all memes that will live forever.. Trumps even outclassed the left in nicknames...

    But he never did lock her up and still hasn't, nor has he repealed obamacare, nor has any substatial wall being built. Trump's a nothingburger


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    these are all memes that will live forever.. Trumps even outclassed the left in nicknames...

    Just another example of why that previously referenced Reddit post is right on the money.

    It isn't about anything, it is about feeling like a winner. The fact that everything is falling down around them doesn't matter.

    Memes and zingers. Owning the 'left'. That is what it all boils down to.

    Trump and his recovery from Covid is the latest example. They don't care that 215k people have died, that nearly 1k a day are continuing to die. Trump beat it, they won, everyone else lost. Haha, losers


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,364 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    duploelabs wrote: »
    But he never did lock her up and still hasn't, nor has he repealed obamacare, nor has any substatial wall being built. Trump's a nothingburger

    He doesn’t want his leaders to actually do anything, a catchy slogan is enough for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,451 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    yeah.. he will have to take his McD back to his nothingburger 58 story tower in NY, back to his nothingburger 128 room resort in Palm Springs, back to his nothingburger golf course in the West Of Ireland...I guess ISIS were defeated by a nothingburger.. I guess the stock market record highs were a nothingburger.
    record unemployment rates for AfricanAmerican community were a nothingburger.. UAE-Israel accord was a nothingburger ...

    youve made me hungry with all this talk of nothing burgers ..

    None of those are true, but I couldn't be arsed pointing out what a ridiculous fool you are


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  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    I guess the stock market record highs were a nothingburger.


    Don't forget about the record lows!

    RIGOLO wrote: »
    record unemployment rates for AfricanAmerican community were a nothingburger


    Surely not something to brag about, even for a Trump supporter?


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