Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

Graham

Himpy5 wrote: »

Polls are BS and so easy to manipulate.
I know this from experience.

A terribly weak straw to cling to

All the polls are wrong is a stronger straw?

dark crystal

Himpy5 wrote: »

Polls are BS and so easy to manipulate.
I know this from experience.

A terribly weak straw to cling to

Sure we'll all know if they were manipulated or not in about 50 hours from now

timsey tiger

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Get out of that garden, Trump delivered where it matters and that's your pocket. I'm not even American, haven't been there in a few years and he still put money in my pocket and not just on election night.

Like woohoo by running up the national debt during a growth cycle.

Himpy5

dark crystal wrote: »

Sure we'll all know if they were manipulated or not in about 50 hours from now

Exactly
May the best team win

Smee_Again

timsey tiger wrote: »

Like woohoo by running up the national debt during a growth cycle.

Everyone knows the national debt only matters while the Democrats are in power.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

85,259,745 is that number accurate for early voting already?
https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=National&demo=Race%20+%20Education&demo_val=All

43,991,614 says in 2016.


With those stats, it might not be all that bad for Biden after all? You would think early voters are more inclined to vote democrat? It's a pity we don't have a breakdown for the 85 million voters and their exact location. Joe Biden receiving 10 million extra votes in California not going to help him flip states. A few million new votes in battleground states would.

Early voting jumps here since 2016 are staggering and maybe an overlooked problem for Trump.

https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=National&demo=Race%20+%20Education&demo_val=All

you can find that information down to county level on that site. not sure why you would want it any more refined than that.

more than 91M vote cast so far according to CNN https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/31/politics/2020-early-voting-90-million-voted/index.html

Danzy

Graham wrote: »

My guess would be campaigning.

If he is campaigning in MN then he is concerned about it, at this stage.

You know the poll lead he has there vs battle ground States like Iowa, Arizona and Georgia to name a few where many States are margin of error differences.


Circa 10% lead in polls in MN.

MN should be among his safest bets.

Danzy

dark crystal wrote: »

Sure we'll all know if they were manipulated or not in about 50 hours from now

Doubt they are manipulated, they may be missing trends due to the exceptional elections trends.

patnor1011

Polls are make-believe things. The outcome usually depends on who pays for them.

Graham

Danzy wrote: »

If he is campaigning in MN then he is concerned about it, at this stage.

Or not taking it for granted.

I guess it's the same for both candidates, they want to keep their strong states while still making a play for the tossup states.

Danzy

Graham wrote: »

Or not taking it for granted.

I guess it's the same for both candidates, they want to keep their strong states while still making a play for the tossup states.

Risky and an interesting time to do it.

vojiwox

Danzy wrote: »

If he is campaigning in MN then he is concerned about it, at this stage.

You know the poll lead he has there vs battle ground States like Iowa, Arizona and Georgia to name a few where many States are margin of error differences.


Circa 10% lead in polls in MN.

MN should be among his safest bets.

I guess they are just not taking the polls for granted and campaign, campaign, campaign.

Team Trump has is trying something else :pac:

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1323023796136280070

Himpy5

Danzy wrote: »

If he is campaigning in MN then he is concerned about it, at this stage.

You know the poll lead he has there vs battle ground States like Iowa, Arizona and Georgia to name a few where many States are margin of error differences.


Circa 10% lead in polls in MN.

MN should be among his safest bets.

Joe doesn't believe the polls

Beasty

The poll in the now closed thread asked who you think would win

To get a slightly different perspective I've added a poll to this one asking who would you vote for (if, of course, you had a vote)

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1322957092412686343

Trump supporters engaging in attempted suppression and intimidation on highways now it seems.

This behaviour is just wrong. It's delinquent.

Overheal

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1322957092412686343

Trump supporters engaging in attempted suppression and intimidation on highways now it seems.

This behaviour is just wrong. It's delinquent.

Zealotry.

These are the same people who think it's so wrong to block a thoroughfare that they will run over protesters to clear such obstruction.

Himpy5

schmittel wrote: »

Hatred of Trump has boiled peoples brains so much that it really does change their ability to see clearly.

If this is what it is like in Ireland, imagine what it is like in the US. Even if the Shinners got into government here, I don't think we'd lose the head quite like this.

And due to the deceptive nature of cnn Rte nyt etc etc lots of people have been duped into hating Trump for no good reaspn

Instead of enjoying 4 years on the Trump Train they have been screaming and tweeting into the abyss, to no avail
Sad!

Danzy

vojiwox wrote: »

I guess they are just not taking the polls for granted and campaign, campaign, campaign.

Team Trump has is trying something else :pac:

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1323023796136280070

They are right not to take notice, there is much to be sceptical about.

If he is in trouble in MN then he is facing a landslide defeat.

AZ is now looking like a Trump marginal win.

A state Biden needs to win just to block one of trump's more likely paths to victory.

briany

Trump calling Obama, 'Barack Hussein Obama' at rallies is a pretty clear appeal to the xenophobia of the Trump base. He's only really started doing that lately. If it had been Trump talking to that 'Obama's an Arab' woman back in 2008 instead of John McCain, Trump would have been like, "You could be right. Isn't she beautiful, folks?".

1800_Ladladlad

This pretty much sums up the kind of people voting for Biden because of orange man bad. "Democracy is very important" few seconds;after............ "if Trump wins we won't accept the results "

Sad individuals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ_eNALIcI8

Kermit.de.frog

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This pretty much sums up the kind of people voting for Biden because of orange man bad. "Democracy is very important" few seconds;after............ "if Trump wins we won't accept the results "

Sad individuals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ_eNALIcI8

Tell us about the sad individuals trying to invalidate millions of votes - oh, wait that's Trump himself (and the republican party).

Trump doesn't like democracy.

Himpy5

"Trump supporters engaging in attempted suppression and intimidation on highways now it seems.

This behaviour is just wrong. It's delinquent."

They are not dragging people out of cars to beat them like antifa/blm did

ExMachina1000

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This pretty much sums up the kind of people voting for Biden because of orange man bad. "Democracy is very important" few seconds;after............ "if Trump wins we won't accept the results "

Sad individuals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ_eNALIcI8

Good lord.

Baristas of new York unite

Kermit.de.frog

Danzy wrote: »

They are right not to take notice, there is much to be sceptical about.

If he is in trouble in MN then he is facing a landslide defeat.

AZ is now looking like a Trump marginal win.

A state Biden needs to win just to block one of trump's more likely paths to victory.

Biden is ahead by 6 point lead in Arizona.

Ironically his stupid attacks on John McCain has cost him the state.

Kermit.de.frog

Himpy5 wrote: »

"Trump supporters engaging in attempted suppression and intimidation on highways now it seems.

This behaviour is just wrong. It's delinquent."

They are not dragging people out of cars to beat them like antifa/blm did

They don't have to.

Himpy5

prinzeugen wrote: »

There were multiple videos on the Facebook group that organised that Trump Train taken from different angles which shows a different story. They have all been deleted.

Its no wonder the FBI is investigating it. It was a deleberate attempt to run the bus of the road.

Omg didn't know that

We'll then that looks like attempted murder

I'm supporting Joe now

Himpy5

prinzeugen wrote: »

There were multiple videos on the Facebook group that organised that Trump Train taken from different angles which shows a different story. They have all been deleted.

Its no wonder the FBI is investigating it. It was a deleberate attempt to run the bus of the road.

Omg didn't know that

We'll then that looks like attempted murder

I'm supporting Joe now

Carfacemandog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1322957092412686343

Trump supporters engaging in attempted suppression and intimidation on highways now it seems.

This behaviour is just wrong. It's delinquent.

And after the last few years it is 100% expected without a single modicum of surprise.

More importantly, and much like when they tried to ram a Presidential candidate off the road... where are the cops?

Cheerful Spring2

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Biden is ahead by 6 point lead in Arizona.

Ironically his stupid attacks on John McCain has cost him the state.

Going by this other poster link. The mail in voting very poor for democrats. Lot of these states may be won on the day?
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/AZ.html

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Going by this other poster link. The mail in voting very poor for democrats. Lot of these states may be won on the day?
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/AZ.html

early voting by democrats up by 500,000 in arizona

https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=State&demo=Modeled%20Party&demo_val=All&state=AZ