Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

MeMen2_MoRi_

Maybe a good idea also to get this on the first post of the new thread...

Some breathing, calming music and beautiful scenery.. to relax to when you need to take a break from the updates tomorrow night..

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1323391685062201345?s=19

ExMachina1000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What is it with Trump supporters and plagiarism?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Good-will-hunting-good-will-hunting-bar-scene-annotated

Any other notable plagiarism fans you can think of?

Professor Moriarty

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Potentially big for Joe Biden. Ohio now in play.

From the Guardian.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/nov/02/us-election-2020-live-updates-president-donald-trump-joe-biden-kamala-harris-latest-news-update?page=with:block-5fa079f88f08d87cfa22501f#block-5fa079f88f08d87cfa22501f

Reuters/Ipsos polling as of Nov 2nd, likely voters:

AZ: D +2.3
FL: D +3.7
MI: D +9.6
NC: D +1.2
PA: D +6.2
WI: D +9.6

Kermit.de.frog

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Reuters/Ipsos polling as of Nov 2nd, likely voters:

AZ: D +2.3
FL: D +3.7
MI: D +9.6
NC: D +1.2
PA: D +6.2
WI: D +9.6

All good!

The Ohio poll is quite stunning. Everyone had it a certainty for Trump. Looks a toss up now.

They'll be very nervous now in the Trump campaign seeing that.

Professor Moriarty

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

All good!

The Ohio poll is quite stunning. Everyone had it a certainty for Trump. Looks a toss up now.

They'll be very nervous now in the Trump campaign seeing that.

Yes. If Ohio is even close, Trump is toast.

bennyineire

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Former British banker has bet $5 MILLION on a Donald Trump victory at 37/20 — believed to be the largest political punt ever made.

Paddy Power said the volume of wagers placed on the two candidates over the last 24-hours has seen 93 per cent of the money backing Donald Trump to get a second term, with just 7 per cent going for Joe Biden.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13090267/mystery-brit-gambler-bets-5million-trump-election-victory/

A lot of people are going to lose a lot of money so

drunkmonkey

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Potentially big for Joe Biden. Ohio now in play.

From the Guardian.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/nov/02/us-election-2020-live-updates-president-donald-trump-joe-biden-kamala-harris-latest-news-update?page=with:block-5fa079f88f08d87cfa22501f#block-5fa079f88f08d87cfa22501f

Biden behind on average in the Ohio polls

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/oh/ohio_trump_vs_biden-6765.html

Overheal

Why America votes on the first tuesday after the first monday in November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0bMfS-_pjM

This is kinda the first election where it's been less of a thing thanks to early voting. You can see how crowded election day normally is though.

Professor Moriarty

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Biden behind on average in the Ohio polls

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/oh/ohio_trump_vs_biden-6765.html

I wouldn't wrap my chips in polls by Rasmussen or Trafalgar.

drunkmonkey

There's no comparison...both live now..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaPPjGMGO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DveE87XlkzA

holdyerhorses

Overheal wrote: »

Why America votes on the first tuesday after the first monday in November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0bMfS-_pjM

This is kinda the first election where it's been less of a thing thanks to early voting. You can see how crowded election day normally is though.

Amazing how the overwhelming majority of those in the long queues are black!

holdyerhorses

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There's no comparison...both live now..

'removed YT vids'

Yes, Trump and his ilk, carved out of the worldview of the Southern Democrats of the 1850s and 60s. Reprehensible.

Overheal

holdyerhorses wrote: »

Amazing how the overwhelming majority of those in the long queues are black!

Not amazing whatsoever. Predictable and depressing.

Overheal

Some readers will be completely dismayed to learn that Durham's ongoing fishing expedition has still uncovered... - nothing.

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/durham-investigation-insiders-say-no-evidence-to-support-obamagate-has-been-found-in-18-months/

Top prosecutors in the so-called Durham probe into the origins of the Russigate investigation have reportedly found “no evidence” to support the foundational theory that spawned the investigation—namely, that Obamagate occurred and that Barack Obama himself needed to be punished for it.

According to a New York Magazine story relying on anonymous sources “familiar with the probe,” U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut John Durham has come up empty-handed and is growing increasingly frustrated with Attorney General Bill Barr over developments in the investigation–or, rather, the lack thereof.

Barr, for his part, has reportedly pressured Durham and his team for months over the investigation into the investigation–insisting that the prosecutor release the results before Election Day in an effort to use the full apparatus of the U.S. Department of Justice as a salve for President Donald Trump‘s electoral woes.

And while Barr has often energized the president’s base with updates about the progress of the Durham investigation, he has also repeatedly disappointed the same base by not producing high-profile indictments.

“Under the longstanding standards of the department, criminal charges are appropriate only when we have enough evidence to prove each element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the standard we’re applying,” Barr said in late May when asked a question about potentially incriminating former President Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden.

The 77th and 85th attorney general also name-dropped the heads of the prior administration during that news conference.

“There is a difference between an abuse of power and a federal crime,” Barr continued. “Not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is a federal crime. As to President Obama and Vice-President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don’t expect Mr. Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man. Our concern over potential criminality is focused on others.”

But such pressure and insinuations–alleged to be private and clearly telegraphed in public–being brought to bear on the inquiry has already caused some collateral damage to the effort itself. In early September, Durham’s longtime aide Nora Dannehy resigned out of concern that the team was being pressured—by Barr for political reasons—to come up with results well before November.

Dannehy’s official resignation letter was terse and polite–lacking any reference to Barr’s alleged pressure campaign. But according to her colleagues, the government attorney was forced to choose between her years of working with Durham and her belief that the DOJ should not be used to exercise, facilitate or exert influence on U.S. elections.

That high-profile defection certainly didn’t do the Durham probe any favors in terms of optics or efficiency, but if Monday’s report is any indication, losing a lawyer might not be the biggest cause for concern among the MAGA faithful.

Per the New York magazine report by Murray Waas:

Shortly after the resignation of his prized deputy and with the election looming on the horizon, Durham phoned Barr. He forcefully told the attorney general that his office would not be releasing a report or taking any other significant public actions before Election Day, according to a person with knowledge of the phone call. Dannehy’s resignation constituted an implied but unspoken threat to Barr that Durham or others on his team might resign if the attorney general attempted to force the issue, according to a person familiar with Durham’s thinking.

The report goes on to cite sources who say that Dennehy’s departure wasn’t actually aberrational at all. Instead, Durham actually shared the concerns that prompted his top aide’s exit, according to the report.

Those sources claim that both Dannehy and Durham were “troubled” that Barr has been misrepresenting the investigation in public since it began.

As Law&Crime previously reported, the attorney general previously rubbished an internal watchdog report that found no issues with the original counterintelligence investigation into Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign–while using the opportunity to talk up Durham’s probe and projecting the idea that his hand-picked man would deliver dirt on the previous administration.

But that hoped-for dirt has proven elusive.

While the probe remains ongoing, there has reportedly been no evidence to support the White House’s long-promised pet theory that the 45th president was targeted by untoward Obama era officials—and the Obama White House itself— as part of unlawful deep state coup. That preliminary finding also reportedly extends to both Obama and Biden themselves.

One of those anonymous sources cited in the New York report there “was no evidence…not even remotely…indicating Obama or Biden did anything wrong.”

Despite all the speed bumps, hiccups and large animals in the middle of the highway that have kept the probe from being finished post-haste, Barr’s publicly projected baseline assumption has been that the investigation would yield stark dividends for the White House. As of now, however, that does not appear to be well-supported.

Barr tasked Durham in May 2019 with investigating the Russia investigation. Eighteen months have passed since then.

holdyerhorses

Overheal wrote: »

Not amazing whatsoever. Predictable and depressing.

(I know)

drunkmonkey

holdyerhorses wrote: »

Yes, Trump and his ilk, carved out of the worldview of the Southern Democrats of the 1850s and 60s. Reprehensible.

It's all in the delivery, Biden was terrible on stage there, the mask mess at the end was cringe.

Carfacemandog

Anyone keeping track on how many Trump supporters have condemned what can only be defined as a terror attack in trying to run Biden's bus off the road, or condemned Trump for supporting this act of terrorism? Its been a few days so there's been plenty of time for them to respond.

holdyerhorses

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's all in the delivery, Biden was terrible on stage there, the mask mess at the end was cringe.

"I've just signed on AirForce into law..." an EO that brings the country back 200+ years, Jefferson Davis failed, I won't.

And yet we're arguing face masks?

holdyerhorses

holdyerhorses wrote: »

"I've just signed on AirForce into law..." an EO that brings the country back 200+ years, Jefferson Davis failed, I won't.

And yet we're arguing face masks?

Pet peeve of theirs, brought on by their conspiracy theory guru.

holdyerhorses

DubInMeath wrote: »

Pet peeve brought on by their conspiracy theory guru.

Mad. They're discussing face masks when their guy and them are still a bit pissed off that the Confederacy didn't succeed.

Overheal

Obama shoring up Miami

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUjWJBKotbQ

edit: Quinnipiac,

In Florida, 47 percent of likely voters support Biden and 42 percent support Trump.
Likely voters have a favorable view of Biden, 48 – 43 percent, while they have an unfavorable view of
Trump, 50 – 42 percent

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/fl/fl11022020_bgbw76.pdf

Tilting Florida toward Biden. The healthcare narrative is compelling.

drunkmonkey

Overheal wrote: »

Obama shoring up Miami

Who's he talking to? Very few watching and they won't swing the cameras to show the crowd. Meanwhile over on Trump TV he's accusing Obama of Treason.

AMKC

82 per cent of Irish people want Biden to win.

Go Joe Biden Go Kamala Harris.

Let's hope for all our sakes and for our sanity that they win.

Overheal

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Who's he talking to? Very few watching and they won't swing the cameras to show the crowd. Meanwhile over on Trump TV he's accusing Obama of Treason.

He's talking to Miami Dade voters. Maybe you think the moon landing is faked too?

Nobody cares about Trump or his lock them up chants. Durham's investigation is empty handed and a cursory understanding of the constitutional definition of treason would arrest any reasonable person from thinking it was in any way applicable or compelling here.

holdyerhorses

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Who's he talking to? Very few watching and they won't swing the cameras to show the crowd. Meanwhile over on Trump TV he's accusing Obama of Treason.

What amazes me, is that 5.5 years later, the crowd still laps this up, the same tired old material. I guess a bit like yer favourite hackneyed comedian doing the greatest hits, the fans will still enjoy it, meanwhile everyone else has moved on.

baaba maal

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Who's he talking to? Very few watching and they won't swing the cameras to show the crowd. Meanwhile over on Trump TV he's accusing Obama of Treason.

You say the last bit as if it is a good thing, even though you know it is only more cartoonish blathering just to rile up a crowd. The truth really doesn't matter to those who scream "fake news".

Kermit.de.frog

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Who's he talking to? Very few watching and they won't swing the cameras to show the crowd. Meanwhile over on Trump TV he's accusing Obama of Treason.

Seniors (and just people in general with an intelligence anywhere above just below the average) are going to GREATLY appreciate the Democrats' consideration of them through this election and the socially distanced and restricted events, you better believe it. It's why Biden is crushing Trump on seniors.

Trump abandoned seniors to coronavirus and he will pay a severe price for that tomorrow!

Panrich

It's looking like we'll need UN monitors to oversee the US elections if this keeps up. The only saving grace is that Trump seems to be a one off. If he's beaten tomorrow night and the GOP accept the decision, we can hopefully see them start getting back to normal politics in the US.

holdyerhorses

Panrich wrote: »

It's looking like we'll need UN monitors to oversee the US elections if this keeps up. The only saving grace is that Trump seems to be a one off. If he's beaten tomorrow night and the GOP accept the decision, we can hopefully see them start getting back to normal politics in the US.

Amy and Brett, they're on the SC for a reason, trump ain't going nowhere, no matter the result.

drunkmonkey

Overheal wrote: »

He's talking to Miami Dade voters. Maybe you think the moon landing is faked too?

Is he giving them looting and burning tips, they wouldn't be boarding up shops in Dade county if they were confident of a Biden win.