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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,509 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Is that person who called Kamala Harris an “odious witch” for lying about her position on fracking, going to recant that position if she really didn’t lie about her position?

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/12/blog-posting/no-video-harris-2019-doesnt-prove-she-lied-about-f/?fbclid=IwAR0XNWdhhl0IwxoYGU3DGku6NqldD4czA6DrX8IwcHwrMZiZkAGbeTO8dE0


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,593 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Overheal wrote: »
    Is that person who called Kamala Harris an “odious witch” for lying about her position on fracking, going to recant that position if she really didn’t lie about her position?

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/12/blog-posting/no-video-harris-2019-doesnt-prove-she-lied-about-f/?fbclid=IwAR0XNWdhhl0IwxoYGU3DGku6NqldD4czA6DrX8IwcHwrMZiZkAGbeTO8dE0

    Hasn't that poster been threadbanned? Seemed like that poster was into 'you lied! No, you lied!' style of posting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,509 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Hasn't that poster been threadbanned? Seemed like that poster was into 'you lied! No, you lied!' style of posting.

    I had forgotten who it was. Nevermind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,698 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    eagle eye wrote: »
    What are all you guys that spend your days sniping and biting at every post that isn't in support of the Democrats going to do come November when the election is over?
    Why are you still at it constantly? Biden has this thing won. Why aren't you sitting back chilling out and being happy and just laughing at those supporting Trump?

    I don't see it as Biden having this thing one.

    I think that would be a very dangerous thing for any body who wants him to win to actually think. It would increase the likelihood that Democrat voters would decide it is in the bag and stay at home and not bother voting.

    I'd much sooner be listening to arm chair experts in 3 weeks say things like 'It was always obvious Trump was going to lose' and 'I knew this wasn't going to be close' rather than 'What the hell happened'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,509 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Is that a fact or just a guess by you?

    Literal fact.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Is that a fact or just a guess by you?


    At the time you had 53 posts, now 56, in both cases the most in the thread.


    I remember this "This is so obviously going to happen so why do you waste your time even discussing it" line of arugment from the SSM referendum threads.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I don't see it as Biden having this thing one.

    I think that would be a very dangerous thing for any body who wants him to win to actually think.
    It would increase the likelihood that Democrat voters would decide it is in the bag and stay at home and not bother voting.

    I'd much sooner be listening to arm chair experts in 3 weeks say things like 'It was always obvious Trump was going to lose' and 'I knew this wasn't going to be close' rather than 'What the hell happened'.

    Totally agree - The Biden campaign needs to act like they are a few points down across the board until all votes are cast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,762 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Totally agree - The Biden campaign needs to act like they are a few points down across the board until all votes are cast.

    To be fair there is no evidence they aren't.

    Biden has the right strategy. Trump is busy blowing himself up, don't intervene.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,762 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Even though you grow numb to it it is still shocking to see that rally in Florida just gone. Hardly anyone wearing masks and tucked in together like sardines and a ridiculous republican governor going around the crowd high fiving people and wiping his nose in between.

    In a state where cases are rising and with a highly vulnerable constituency of retirees.

    It's really sad to see such degeneracy and stupidity sinking down from the top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    United States - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 8.880 1.120%
    2019 8.782 1.120%
    2018 8.685 1.220%
    2017 8.580 1.240%
    2016 8.475 1.270%
    2015 8.369 1.270%
    2014 8.264 1.290%
    2013 8.159 0.090%
    2012 8.152 0.090%
    2011 8.145 0.090%
    2010 8.138 0.090%
    2009 8.131 0.090%
    2008 8.124 -0.960%
    2007 8.203 -0.950%
    2006 8.282 -0.960%
    2005 8.362 -0.940%
    2004 8.441 -0.930%
    2003 8.520 -0.330%
    2002 8.548 -0.330%
    2001 8.576 -0.310%
    2000 8.603 -0.320%
    1999 8.631 -0.320%
    1998 8.659 -0.370%
    1997 8.691 -0.360%
    1996 8.722 -0.370%
    1995 8.754 -0.350%
    1994 8.785 -0.360%
    1993 8.817 -0.310%
    1992 8.844 -0.300%
    1991 8.871 -0.300%
    1990 8.898 -0.300%
    1989 8.925 -0.300%
    1988 8.952 0.280%
    1987 8.927 0.270%
    1986 8.903 0.280%
    1985 8.878 0.270%
    1984 8.854 0.280%
    1983 8.829 -0.050%
    1982 8.833 -0.050%
    1981 8.837 -0.050%
    1980 8.841 -0.050%
    1979 8.845 -0.050%
    1978 8.849 -1.230%
    1977 8.959 -1.210%
    1976 9.069 -1.190%
    1975 9.178 -1.180%
    1974 9.288 -1.170%
    1973 9.398 -0.410%
    1972 9.437 -0.410%
    1971 9.476 -0.420%
    1970 9.516 -0.410%
    1969 9.555 -0.410%
    1968 9.594 0.310%
    1967 9.564 0.310%
    1966 9.534 0.330%
    1965 9.503 0.320%
    1964 9.473 0.320%
    1963 9.443 0.070%
    1962 9.436 0.070%
    1961 9.429 0.060%
    1960 9.423 0.070%
    1959 9.416 0.070%
    1958 9.409 -0.320%
    1957 9.439 -0.320%
    1956 9.469 -0.320%
    1955 9.499 -0.310%
    1954 9.529 -0.310%
    1953 9.559 -0.310%
    1952 9.589 -0.310%
    1951 9.619 -0.310%
    1950 9.649 0.000%


    Never has there been so much focus on deaths, but the death rate is exact same as it ever was.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    United States - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 8.880 1.120%
    2019 8.782 1.120%
    2018 8.685 1.220%
    2017 8.580 1.240%
    2016 8.475 1.270%
    2015 8.369 1.270%
    2014 8.264 1.290%
    2013 8.159 0.090%
    2012 8.152 0.090%
    2011 8.145 0.090%
    2010 8.138 0.090%
    2009 8.131 0.090%
    2008 8.124 -0.960%
    2007 8.203 -0.950%
    2006 8.282 -0.960%
    2005 8.362 -0.940%
    2004 8.441 -0.930%
    2003 8.520 -0.330%
    2002 8.548 -0.330%
    2001 8.576 -0.310%
    2000 8.603 -0.320%
    1999 8.631 -0.320%
    1998 8.659 -0.370%
    1997 8.691 -0.360%
    1996 8.722 -0.370%
    1995 8.754 -0.350%
    1994 8.785 -0.360%
    1993 8.817 -0.310%
    1992 8.844 -0.300%
    1991 8.871 -0.300%
    1990 8.898 -0.300%
    1989 8.925 -0.300%
    1988 8.952 0.280%
    1987 8.927 0.270%
    1986 8.903 0.280%
    1985 8.878 0.270%
    1984 8.854 0.280%
    1983 8.829 -0.050%
    1982 8.833 -0.050%
    1981 8.837 -0.050%
    1980 8.841 -0.050%
    1979 8.845 -0.050%
    1978 8.849 -1.230%
    1977 8.959 -1.210%
    1976 9.069 -1.190%
    1975 9.178 -1.180%
    1974 9.288 -1.170%
    1973 9.398 -0.410%
    1972 9.437 -0.410%
    1971 9.476 -0.420%
    1970 9.516 -0.410%
    1969 9.555 -0.410%
    1968 9.594 0.310%
    1967 9.564 0.310%
    1966 9.534 0.330%
    1965 9.503 0.320%
    1964 9.473 0.320%
    1963 9.443 0.070%
    1962 9.436 0.070%
    1961 9.429 0.060%
    1960 9.423 0.070%
    1959 9.416 0.070%
    1958 9.409 -0.320%
    1957 9.439 -0.320%
    1956 9.469 -0.320%
    1955 9.499 -0.310%
    1954 9.529 -0.310%
    1953 9.559 -0.310%
    1952 9.589 -0.310%
    1951 9.619 -0.310%
    1950 9.649 0.000%


    Never has there been so much focus on deaths, but the death rate is exact same as it ever was.

    The CDC model says otherwise https://theconversation.com/up-to-204-691-extra-deaths-in-the-us-so-far-in-this-pandemic-year-143139


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,593 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    United States - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 8.880 1.120%
    2019 8.782 1.120%
    2018 8.685 1.220%
    2017 8.580 1.240%
    2016 8.475 1.270%
    2015 8.369 1.270%
    2014 8.264 1.290%
    2013 8.159 0.090%
    2012 8.152 0.090%
    2011 8.145 0.090%
    2010 8.138 0.090%
    2009 8.131 0.090%
    2008 8.124 -0.960%
    2007 8.203 -0.950%
    2006 8.282 -0.960%
    2005 8.362 -0.940%
    2004 8.441 -0.930%
    2003 8.520 -0.330%
    2002 8.548 -0.330%
    2001 8.576 -0.310%
    2000 8.603 -0.320%
    1999 8.631 -0.320%
    1998 8.659 -0.370%
    1997 8.691 -0.360%
    1996 8.722 -0.370%
    1995 8.754 -0.350%
    1994 8.785 -0.360%
    1993 8.817 -0.310%
    1992 8.844 -0.300%
    1991 8.871 -0.300%
    1990 8.898 -0.300%
    1989 8.925 -0.300%
    1988 8.952 0.280%
    1987 8.927 0.270%
    1986 8.903 0.280%
    1985 8.878 0.270%
    1984 8.854 0.280%
    1983 8.829 -0.050%
    1982 8.833 -0.050%
    1981 8.837 -0.050%
    1980 8.841 -0.050%
    1979 8.845 -0.050%
    1978 8.849 -1.230%
    1977 8.959 -1.210%
    1976 9.069 -1.190%
    1975 9.178 -1.180%
    1974 9.288 -1.170%
    1973 9.398 -0.410%
    1972 9.437 -0.410%
    1971 9.476 -0.420%
    1970 9.516 -0.410%
    1969 9.555 -0.410%
    1968 9.594 0.310%
    1967 9.564 0.310%
    1966 9.534 0.330%
    1965 9.503 0.320%
    1964 9.473 0.320%
    1963 9.443 0.070%
    1962 9.436 0.070%
    1961 9.429 0.060%
    1960 9.423 0.070%
    1959 9.416 0.070%
    1958 9.409 -0.320%
    1957 9.439 -0.320%
    1956 9.469 -0.320%
    1955 9.499 -0.310%
    1954 9.529 -0.310%
    1953 9.559 -0.310%
    1952 9.589 -0.310%
    1951 9.619 -0.310%
    1950 9.649 0.000%


    Never has there been so much focus on deaths, but the death rate is exact same as it ever was.
    Garbage data. Not by cohort. No source given. Probably from a tweet from some eejit.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    United States - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 8.880 1.120%
    2019 8.782 1.120%
    2018 8.685 1.220%
    2017 8.580 1.240%
    2016 8.475 1.270%
    2015 8.369 1.270%
    2014 8.264 1.290%
    blah
    blah
    blah

    Never has there been so much focus on deaths, but the death rate is exact same as it ever was.

    It would appear that this data came from the following site

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

    As the info there is identical in content and format.

    However - At the top of the page there is the following disclaimer.
    NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.


    READ people , READ!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,568 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Lolle06 wrote:
    Is that so? Can you show us a picture of democrats posing heavily armed like militia groups in public, because I only saw Trump voters doing this.
    I can show you loads of idiots that claim to be Democrats out rioting in the street recently during a pandemic.

    I'm only quoting that bit of your post because your thoughts on Trump supporters don't concern me. I despise Trump and have never liked the Republican party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,568 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think that would be a very dangerous thing for any body who wants him to win to actually think. It would increase the likelihood that Democrat voters would decide it is in the bag and stay at home and not bother voting.
    I could understand that in most years but these people will all go vote to make sure the worst, most vile President in US history is finally out of office.
    It feels like it's been an awful long four years and it's not even been four years yet.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I can show you loads of idiots that claim to be Democrats out rioting in the street recently during a pandemic.

    I'm only quoting that bit of your post because your thoughts on Trump supporters don't concern me. I despise Trump and have never liked the Republican party.

    Without question , there are solid gold cretins on all sides with lots of evidence available to confirm that statement.

    However - Only one campaign and it's surrogates are actively encouraging its cohort of cretins to be the best cretins that they can be in and around Election day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,568 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Biden has the right strategy. Trump is busy blowing himself up, don't intervene.
    Spot on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,568 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Quin_Dub wrote:
    Without question , there are solid gold cretins on all sides with lots of evidence available to confirm that statement.
    However - Only one campaign and it's surrogates are actively encouraging its cohort of cretins to be the best cretins that they can be in and around Election day.
    Well that used to be the case. I'm not so sure now. A nasty side to the Democrats party has appeared in recent times so I'm not so sure there won't be any if them out doing nasty stuff at election time.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well that used to be the case. I'm not so sure now. A nasty side to the Democrats party has appeared in recent times so I'm not so sure there won't be any if them out doing nasty stuff at election time.

    Oh Please!!!

    We are not talking about individuals - we've already accepted that there are arseholes all over. It's about the party leadership and the example they are setting

    Give me a single example of a leading Democrat telling people to "Watch them , make sure they don't cheat , go there and watch them!!!" etc. when speaking about the Election.

    Give me a single example of a leading Democrat encouraging their supporters to "LIBERATE" their states from it's elected officials.

    Give me a single example of a leading Democrat warning of "Civil War" if things didn't go their way.

    Enough with this "both sides" horse-sh!t.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,373 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Is that a fact or just a guess by you?

    Who Posted?
    Total Posts: 1,311
    User Name Posts
    eagle eye 60
    Quin_Dub 57
    Overheal 54
    duploelabs 52
    Tell me how 50
    ohnonotgmail 49
    Leroy42 45
    Justin Credible Darts 40
    Timberrrrrrrr 39
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! 38
    Kermit.de.frog 35
    MeMen2_MoRi_ 31
    timsey tiger 28
    Kidchameleon 28
    Igotadose 28
    km991148 28


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    United States - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 8.880 1.120%
    2019 8.782 1.120%
    2018 8.685 1.220%
    2017 8.580 1.240%
    2016 8.475 1.270%
    2015 8.369 1.270%
    2014 8.264 1.290%
    2013 8.159 0.090%
    2012 8.152 0.090%
    2011 8.145 0.090%
    2010 8.138 0.090%
    2009 8.131 0.090%
    2008 8.124 -0.960%
    2007 8.203 -0.950%
    2006 8.282 -0.960%
    2005 8.362 -0.940%
    2004 8.441 -0.930%
    2003 8.520 -0.330%
    2002 8.548 -0.330%
    2001 8.576 -0.310%
    2000 8.603 -0.320%
    1999 8.631 -0.320%
    1998 8.659 -0.370%
    1997 8.691 -0.360%
    1996 8.722 -0.370%
    1995 8.754 -0.350%
    1994 8.785 -0.360%
    1993 8.817 -0.310%
    1992 8.844 -0.300%
    1991 8.871 -0.300%
    1990 8.898 -0.300%
    1989 8.925 -0.300%
    1988 8.952 0.280%
    1987 8.927 0.270%
    1986 8.903 0.280%
    1985 8.878 0.270%
    1984 8.854 0.280%
    1983 8.829 -0.050%
    1982 8.833 -0.050%
    1981 8.837 -0.050%
    1980 8.841 -0.050%
    1979 8.845 -0.050%
    1978 8.849 -1.230%
    1977 8.959 -1.210%
    1976 9.069 -1.190%
    1975 9.178 -1.180%
    1974 9.288 -1.170%
    1973 9.398 -0.410%
    1972 9.437 -0.410%
    1971 9.476 -0.420%
    1970 9.516 -0.410%
    1969 9.555 -0.410%
    1968 9.594 0.310%
    1967 9.564 0.310%
    1966 9.534 0.330%
    1965 9.503 0.320%
    1964 9.473 0.320%
    1963 9.443 0.070%
    1962 9.436 0.070%
    1961 9.429 0.060%
    1960 9.423 0.070%
    1959 9.416 0.070%
    1958 9.409 -0.320%
    1957 9.439 -0.320%
    1956 9.469 -0.320%
    1955 9.499 -0.310%
    1954 9.529 -0.310%
    1953 9.559 -0.310%
    1952 9.589 -0.310%
    1951 9.619 -0.310%
    1950 9.649 0.000%


    Never has there been so much focus on deaths, but the death rate is exact same as it ever was.

    Jesus, took all of 10 mins to have your ar$e reddened on this one.

    That rally in Florida yesterday was a sight to behold. High fives, lack of facemasks, more lies being spouted. I really do hope he is soundly beaten in the election. I think he is really bad for America and the world in general. Whether you have a left or right political preference, you should want this man gone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Who Posted?
    Total Posts: 1,311
    User Name Posts
    eagle eye 60
    Quin_Dub 57
    Overheal 54
    duploelabs 52
    Tell me how 50
    ohnonotgmail 49
    Leroy42 45
    Justin Credible Darts 40
    Timberrrrrrrr 39
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! 38
    Kermit.de.frog 35
    MeMen2_MoRi_ 31
    timsey tiger 28
    Kidchameleon 28
    Igotadose 28
    km991148 28

    Excluded again. *Sobs*


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Is Biden still running for the Senate? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Who Posted?
    Total Posts: 1,311
    User Name Posts
    eagle eye 60
    Quin_Dub 57
    Overheal 54
    duploelabs 52
    Tell me how 50
    ohnonotgmail 49
    Leroy42 45
    Justin Credible Darts 40
    Timberrrrrrrr 39
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! 38
    Kermit.de.frog 35
    MeMen2_MoRi_ 31
    timsey tiger 28
    Kidchameleon 28
    Igotadose 28
    km991148 28

    remind me how you generate that list


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    remind me how you generate that list

    Click the number of posts in ordinary full view. Shows top posters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    I'm more and more convinced Trump's supporters will need an actual safe space when he loses.

    A bigger bunch of snowflakes you'll never come across :)


    Bit like the Hillary supporters


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    When Trump goes it'll be the people who hate him that will miss him the most.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Excluded again. *Sobs*

    slacker


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Who Posted?
    Total Posts: 1,311
    User Name Posts
    eagle eye 60
    Quin_Dub 57
    Overheal 54
    duploelabs 52
    Tell me how 50
    ohnonotgmail 49
    Leroy42 45
    Justin Credible Darts 40
    Timberrrrrrrr 39
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! 38
    Kermit.de.frog 35
    MeMen2_MoRi_ 31
    timsey tiger 28
    Kidchameleon 28
    Igotadose 28
    km991148 28

    Didn't make the cut. Nuts

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    He managed to not go bankrupt 5 or 6 times, including bankrupting casinos of all places. That puts him ahead of the other guy, who is now doing his best to bankrupt the USA despite the very strong economy left to him by Barack Obama and, indeed, Joe Biden.
    It's kinda funny how he isn't in this election on his own merits, but on the "not Trump" ticket.


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