Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

thecretinhop

can anyone explain how joe biden on a wage of 174k has so many luxury houses. crickets on dis one...

hetuzozaho

Akrasia wrote: »

The NY Post actually is as close to 'fake news' as any publication pretending to a newspaper can get.
It's got about as much credibility as the weekly world news'

Ah right.

I just read the latest Hunter exclusive they've put up. I'm not even sure what your suppose to take away from it.

It contains this bombshell:

A 2019 text exchange shows (Hunter) Biden corresponding with a pal, Mehall Ledwith, who was celebrating St. Patrick’s Day at The Chelsea Bell bar in Manhattan.

“That sounds like fun. Where dat,” Biden wrote.

Ledwith said he didn’t recall the St. Patrick’s Day exchange but said he and Biden were friends who have communicated by text

And I'll point out again, the most explosive email is a screenshot. Surprised it hadn't made the National Enquirer although the they've been in trouble over Trump previously.

MadYaker

thecretinhop wrote: »

can anyone explain how joe biden on a wage of 174k has so many luxury houses. crickets on dis one...

He published all his tax returns going back years (or decades?) I'm sure the answer is in there if you care to look.

MoonUnit75

Deleted User wrote: »

You should really get up to date on this. There's an fbi investigation that indicates the emails are fake...

There's no evidence for this at all. There's a couple of newspaper articles claiming 'anonymous sources' are saying the FBI are investigating this as foreign interference.

Hunter Biden's own lawyers are not saying they are fake “we have no idea where this came from, and certainly cannot credit anything that Rudy Giuliani provided to the New York Post, but what I do know for certain is that this purported meeting never happened.”
'Cannot credit anything Rudy Giuliani provided' is a clever avoidance of saying the emails are fake. IF Hunter told them they were fake, they would state that. They they say 'what I do know for certain is that the ..meeting never happened'. This means they are not certain the emails of photos of Hunter in bed with a crack pipe are fake.

namloc1980

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Hanging out on epstein island and taking loads of trips on the lolita express.

(And before anyone starts, Im not giving credance to any wider conspiracy or murders or anything, just as time has gone on weve found out bill is a creepy man) he was still a solid president.

Trump being buddies with Epstein and Maxwell doesn't bother you though?

namloc1980

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

There's no evidence for this at all. There's a couple of newspaper articles claiming 'anonymous sources' are saying the FBI are investigating this as foreign interference.

Hunter Biden's own lawyers are not saying they are fake “we have no idea where this came from, and certainly cannot credit anything that Rudy Giuliani provided to the New York Post, but what I do know for certain is that this purported meeting never happened.”
'Cannot credit anything Rudy Giuliani provided' is a clever avoidance of saying the emails are fake. IF Hunter told them they were fake, they would state that. They they say 'what I do know for certain is that the ..meeting never happened'. This means they are not certain the emails of photos of Hunter in bed with a crack pipe are fake.

This Hunter Biden story is nowhere near the bombshell the Trumpists would try to have us believe. The only take away from it is Rudy is up to his neck in dodgy dealings - which in fairness is not surprising.

The desperation to make a story of this is comical though!

MoonUnit75

Deleted User wrote: »

And I'll point out again, the most explosive email is a screenshot. Surprised it hadn't made the National Enquirer although the they've been in trouble over Trump previously.

The FBI also have a copy of the same hard drive. If the screenshots or emails are fake, they have known about it for months and I expect they would have confirmed this by now.

Akrasia

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Hanging out on epstein island and taking loads of trips on the lolita express.

(And before anyone starts, Im not giving credance to any wider conspiracy or murders or anything, just as time has gone on weve found out bill is a creepy man) he was still a solid president.

Donald Trump was friends with Epstein too and was at his house and was at parties hosted by him

hetuzozaho

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

This means they are not certain the emails of photos of Hunter in bed with a crack pipe are fake.

It's all just distraction though is it? We could talk all day about the veracity. New leaks coming later ooohh ahhh etc. Something big.

When really it doesn't matter if the picture is real?

timsey tiger

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

The FBI also have a copy of the same hard drive. If the screenshots or emails are fake, they have known about it for months and I expect they would have confirmed this by now.

The FBI are not in the business of fact checking rubbish published trashy (actual fake news) tabloids. What planet are you on?

namloc1980

I see Fox News are going with the "poor Donald was asked harder questions" angle to explain his brutal Town Hall performance. Trump right-wingers must be the biggest moaners on the planet - absolute snowflakes of the highest order.

MoonUnit75

namloc1980 wrote: »

This Hunter Biden story is nowhere near the bombshell the Trumpists would try to have us believe. The only take away from it is Rudy is up to his neck in dodgy dealings - which in fairness is not surprising.

The desperation to make a story of this is comical though!

As Vice President, Joe Biden was in charge of US-Ukraine relations. Out of all the people in the world and all the companies in all the countries in the world, his son was then handed a million dollar job with a Ukrainian company owned by an oligarch being investigated in the UK for fraud. That in itself is a conflict of interest. Several news sources pointed out this conflict of interest at the time. Hunter Biden has no background in corporate governance, natural resources, environmental protection, Ukrainian law. In a TV interview Hunter was asked would he have gotten that job if his surname wasn't Biden, he said 'probably not'.

Biden constantly claimed the conflict of interest wasn't a problem because he never spoke to his son about the extremely lucrative job he had with a oil and gas company being investigated in the UK for fraud. Even while Joe Biden himself was officially trying to root out corruption in the Ukraine. Now emails have surfaced that suggest Biden's son was plying his influence with his father as an asset to the dodgy Ukranian company.

Akrasia

namloc1980 wrote: »

I see Fox News are going with the "poor Donald was asked harder questions" angle to explain his brutal Town Hall performance. Trump right-wingers must be the biggest moaners on the planet - absolute snowflakes of the highest order.

Really hard questions like 'Do you disavow Qanon?'
'I just don't know' He is the president, he is supposed to know these things

MoonUnit75

timsey tiger wrote: »

The FBI are not in the business of fact checking rubbish published trashy (actual fake news) tabloids. What planet are you on?

The planet where the NY Post is putting its neck out knowing the FBI can contradict their claims at any time. Hunter Biden has yet to declare them a fake as far as I am aware.

namloc1980

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

As Vice President, Joe Biden was in charge of US-Ukraine relations. Out of all the people in the world and all the companies in all the countries in the world, his son was then handed a million dollar job with a Ukrainian company owned by an oligarch being investigated in the UK for fraud. That in itself is a conflict of interest. Several news sources pointed out this conflict of interest at the time. Hunter Biden has no background in corporate governance, natural resources, environmental protection, Ukrainian law. In a TV interview Hunter was asked would he have gotten that job if his surname wasn't Biden, he said 'probably not'.

Biden constantly claimed the conflict of interest wasn't a problem because he never spoke to his son about the extremely lucrative job he had with a oil and gas company being investigated in the UK for fraud. Even while Joe Biden himself was officially trying to root out corruption in the Ukraine. Now emails have surfaced that suggest Biden's son was plying his influence with his father as an asset to the dodgy Ukranian company.

Sure a potential conflict of interest assuming the emails are true. But we know that conflicts of interest are not in any way an issue when it comes to being President. The Senate already investigated this and the strongest word they could find was "problematic". Optics not great but nothing illegal was found. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-report-burisma-ukraine-senate-republican-released/

Professor Moriarty

biko wrote: »

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/521336-feds-investigating-if-alleged-hunter-biden-emails-connected-to
Feds investigating if alleged Hunter Biden emails connected to foreign intelligence operation: report

"It's just too perfect. A laptop is dropped off to a blind computer repairman in the name of Hunter Biden — in the middle of a presidential election — that happens to be filled with extensive documents along with videos of sex and drug use, and it ends up in the hands of the president's lawyer, who publicly admits to working closely with a Ukrainian official that the Trump administration itself has sanctioned as a Russian intelligence asset attempting to interfere in the presidential campaign."

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-laptop-real-fake-russian-intelligence-2020-10?r=US&IR=T

MadYaker

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

As Vice President, Joe Biden was in charge of US-Ukraine relations. Out of all the people in the world and all the companies in all the countries in the world, his son was then handed a million dollar job with a Ukrainian company owned by an oligarch being investigated in the UK for fraud. That in itself is a conflict of interest. Several news sources pointed out this conflict of interest at the time. Hunter Biden has no background in corporate governance, natural resources, environmental protection, Ukrainian law. In a TV interview Hunter was asked would he have gotten that job if his surname wasn't Biden, he said 'probably not'.

Biden constantly claimed the conflict of interest wasn't a problem because he never spoke to his son about the extremely lucrative job he had with a oil and gas company being investigated in the UK for fraud. Even while Joe Biden himself was officially trying to root out corruption in the Ukraine. Now emails have surfaced that suggest Biden's son was plying his influence with his father as an asset to the dodgy Ukranian company.

Where did you copy and paste that from?

thecretinhop

https://youtu.be/4_N6vsN4QiM

Guillani is not backing down.... ah well sure its fake grand

MoonUnit75

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

"It's just too perfect. A laptop is dropped off to a blind computer repairman in the name of Hunter Biden — in the middle of a presidential election — that happens to be filled with extensive documents along with videos of sex and drug use, and it ends up in the hands of the president's lawyer, who publicly admits to working closely with a Ukrainian official that the Trump administration itself has sanctioned as a Russian intelligence asset attempting to interfere in the presidential campaign."

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-laptop-real-fake-russian-intelligence-2020-10?r=US&IR=T

The FBI got a court order seizing the laptops from the repair shop in December 2019 and have held them ever since. Biden wasn't selected by the Democrats until August this year.

MoonUnit75

MadYaker wrote: »

Where did you copy and paste that from?

I watched the official impeachment proceedings, covered by PBS news and available on YouTube.

Professor Moriarty

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

The FBI got a court order seizing the laptops from the repair shop in December 2019 and have held them ever since. Biden wasn't selected by the Democrats until August this year.

Was he a potential candidate? Yes.

Akrasia

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

The planet where the NY Post is putting its neck out knowing the FBI can contradict their claims at any time. Hunter Biden has yet to declare them a fake as far as I am aware.

The NY Post doesn't care if the FBI contradicts their claims, it would just be another headline they can use to drive traffic to their website

These types of publication are click farms, not reputable news sources

MoonUnit75

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Was he a potential candidate? Yes.

Yes, but in order to establish if the laptop was a fake plant the FBI would have contacted Hunter. The Biden campaign would have by now flagged the existence of a fake, planted laptop full of emails and compromising photos.

jm08

thecretinhop wrote: »

can anyone explain how joe biden on a wage of 174k has so many luxury houses. crickets on dis one...

Here is a breakdown. Most of his wealth has come from being VP (speaking engagements, book and a VP Pension).


https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a31265187/joe-biden-net-worth/

MoonUnit75

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

Yes, but in order to establish if the laptop was a fake plant the FBI would have contacted Hunter. The Biden campaign would have by now flagged the existence of a fake, planted laptop full of emails and compromising photos.

And we don't have any verification that either members of the senate or FBI received any of this information. We have a claim that is not verified. On top of that, we have Biden's attorney saying the alleged meeting never happened. Meanwhile multiple news outlets are reporting that the FBI are investigating if this relates to a foreign intelligence operation.

MoonUnit75

Deleted User wrote: »

And we don't have any verification that either members of the senate or FBI received any of this information. We have a claim that is not verified. On top of that, we have Biden's attorney saying the alleged meeting never happened. Meanwhile multiple news outlets are reporting that the FBI are investigating if this relates to a foreign intelligence operation.

The NY Post have a copy of the court subpoena confiscating the laptops in December 2019. The owner of the repair shop says he has an email from Hunter's lawyer asking for the hard drives back. Hunter could sue the shirts off their back and bury that repair shop owner. Multiple news outlets are repeating what appears to be a single article quoting entirely anonymous sources that the FBI are investigating if this is possible foreign interference. They may be, that doesn't mean they aren't also investigating if the information is true.

If it is a Russian plant they've given the FBI almost a ten month head start to show its a fake before the election.

MoonUnit75

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

The NY Post have a copy of the court subpoena confiscating the laptops in December 2019. The owner of the repair shop says he has an email from Hunter's lawyer asking for the hard drives back. Hunter could sue the shirts off their back and bury that repair shop owner. Multiple news outlets are repeating what appears to be a single article quoting entirely anonymous sources that the FBI are investigating if this is possible foreign interference. They may be, that doesn't mean they aren't also investigating if the information is true.

If it is a Russian plant they've given the FBI almost a ten month head start to show its a fake before the election.

And not even the subpoena has been verified as real... Which is pretty relevant.

MoonUnit75

Deleted User wrote: »

And not even the subpoena has been verified as real... Which is pretty relevant.

I'm sure they can check the record in less than an hour. Hasn't been proved fake yet.

All_in_Flynn

Just watched the Presidents town hall from last night. He had a shocker.

Watching him squirm under the questioning around Qanon and his retweet was as hilarious as it was sobering. It's just incredible this guy is President.

What I find most odd regarding people who refuse to criticise him is their failure to see that he is actually setting the GOP back and doing them incredible damage. Whether you are on the right or the left, you should want this guy gone as he's bad for everyone and he's in it for nobody but himself.

Again, that performance last night - just lol!