Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

Timberrrrrrrr

extra gravy wrote: »

The longer the Biden camp stays silent, the more it will annoy Trump and crackpot Rudy. They're failing in their desperate attempts to provoke a reaction and it's hilarious.

Exactly this.

Trump will rant all he likes but without any evidence of wrongdoing by Biden its just hot air. Will Trump do the next debate so he can try bring this up?

MoonUnit75

extra gravy wrote: »

The longer the Biden camp stays silent, the more it will annoy Trump and crackpot Rudy. They're failing in their desperate attempts to provoke a reaction and it's hilarious.

Haven't used LOL in years but it seems fitting. The 'Airplane' strategy :pac:

Graham

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Will Trump do the next debate so he can try bring this up?

I've no doubt he will

hometruths

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Exactly this.

Trump will rant all he likes but without any evidence of wrongdoing by Biden its just hot air. Will Trump do the next debate so he can try bring this up?

He will be gagging for the opportunity.

Whether or not Biden will remains to be seen.

Timberrrrrrrr

Graham wrote: »

I've no doubt he will

Hopefully Biden comes down with "the sniffles" and says he can't do it, make a miraculous recovery a couple of days later, Trumps head will explode

Overheal

Graham wrote: »

Precisely.

The last 100 posts or so in this thread demonstrate quite clearly why the Biden camp refuse to comment.

Which isn't even quite true

https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1317275294194085888?s=20

Graham

lol, the response is

"I have no response"

dead right.

Giuliani must be apoplectic.

Leroy42

Why is Trump even wasting time on this nonsense?

Surely all he needs to do is talk about the phenomal COVID response, the best economy in history, the wall, the unemployment numbers, doing more in 47 months than any POTUS ever, sorting out US position in the world bringing all those coal jobs back?

Isn't that what all his supporters keep telling us? That basically everything is the best it ever has been.

Cody montana

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why is Trump even wasting time on this nonsense?

Surely all he needs to do is talk about the phenomal COVID response, the best economy in history, the wall, the unemployment numbers, doing more in 47 months than any POTUS ever, sorting out US position in the world bringing all those coal jobs back?

Isn't that what all his supporters keep telling us? That basically everything is the best it ever has been.

Desperation.

Graham

Leroy42 wrote: »

Surely all he needs to do is talk about the phenomal COVID response, the best economy in history, the wall, the unemployment numbers, doing more in 47 months than any POTUS ever, sorting out US position in the world bringing all those coal jobs back?

That and a MAGA hat, and he's sorted.

hetuzozaho

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

He says he has Hunter's signature on the contract, the one that says the shop owner gets ownership of the laptop and data if it's not collected or paid for. He would be doing serious, serious jail time if he is part of a hoax. The article also points out no one in the Biden camp or on the email chains relating to shady business deals in Ukraine and China have questioned their authenticity. Time to face the facts and face the music.

So whats the music Joe will be facing. When is it kicking off? Will they have him before the election do you reckon?

Phoebas

Just when you thought it could get weirder, the Trump campaign are accusing the Democrat Governor who was the subject of a real assassination plot of encouraging an assassination attempt on the President.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1317887947304280071

Overheal

Phoebas wrote: »

Just when you thought it could get weirder, the Trump campaign are accusing the Democrat Governor who was the subject of a real assassination plot of encouraging an assassination attempt on the President.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1317887947304280071

Pretty weak tea,

The whole string is "86 45 11 03 2020" - referencing the date of the election, November 3rd, 2020.

Professor Moriarty

Phoebas wrote: »

Just when you thought it could get weirder, the Trump campaign are accusing the Democrat Governor who was the subject of a real assassination plot of encouraging an assassination attempt on the President.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1317887947304280071

This kind of stuff reeks of desperation. The shriller the tone the more they fear a hammering, so one must presume their internal polling isn't looking good. Problem for them is that their increasingly frantic, nasty and personalised attacks will only serve to further disenfranchise moderate Republicans.

Overheal

Graham wrote: »

You remember me mentioning more attempts to smear Biden

You have to laugh at the desperation

https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1317548298891309058

Oh, more on that,

https://twitter.com/mmcintire/status/1317547448143929344?s=20

:pac::pac::pac:

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Oh, more on that,

https://twitter.com/mmcintire/status/1317547448143929344?s=20

:pac::pac::pac:

So this makes him a more effective businessman than Trump? :P

dark crystal

https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/1317816445288484864

:D:pac:

The STATE of it!

Phoebas

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

This kind of stuff reeks of desperation. The shriller the tone the more they fear a hammering, so one must presume their internal polling isn't looking good. Problem for them is that their increasingly frantic, nasty and personalised attacks will only serve to further disenfranchise moderate Republicans.

The weird thing about this for me is not that they are peddling this kind of guff, but that they are peddling it directly from the Trump campaign.
I'd expect them to at least have surrogates put it out there, see how it flies and then follow up with a 'did you see what people are saying...'.

Instead they've gone straight to a direct accusation of sedition against a state Governor.

Graham

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Problem for them is that their increasingly frantic, nasty and personalised attacks will only serve to further disenfranchise moderate Republicans.

I think that's it exactly.

This kind on guff is only going to connect with people that were always going to vote Trump regardless.

Professor Moriarty

Phoebas wrote: »

The weird thing about this for me is not that they are peddling this kind of guff, but that they are peddling it directly from the Trump campaign.
I'd expect them to at least have surrogates put it out there, see how it flies and then follow up with a 'did you see what people are saying...'.

Instead they've gone straight to a direct accusation of sedition against a state Governor.

I think the problem is that any surrogate who would disseminate this kind of lie would quickly find themselves discredited. Even a few posters on here have lost credibility due to posting tweets and videos that turned out to be doctored or untrue. So, nobody with credibility is going to touch the bizarre rubbish now being concocted in Trump's camp. Hence they are having to do it themselves.

briany

In the Simpsons, there's an episode where Homer runs for Springfield sanitation commissioner because of a petty grudge and bases his campaign off of crazy promises. He even lands a good zinger on the incumbent during their debate. He even claimed that the incumbent tried to lure children into a gingerbread house. The similarities between this plotline and the presidential campaign have been noted by many people, but I'm just wistful for the days when that was an outlandish story and not an eerie portent. It would not be at all surprising at this point if Trump made a direct claim about Biden having lascivious intentions towards children (he may have skirted around the idea a time or two, it's hard to keep up with all the mad stuff he says), and he's certainly not attempting to reign in the conspiracy theory among his base that Hillary Clinton and Biden are part of a ring of satanistic paedophiles. American politics certainly needs to get back to certain level of decency and respect in political discourse and get back to some sort of shared reality because you can't even have a proper debate if you're both living in parallel universes, essentially, where you cannot even agree on the basic facts to argue around.

Kermit.de.frog

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why is Trump even wasting time on this nonsense?

Surely all he needs to do is talk about the phenomal COVID response, the best economy in history, the wall, the unemployment numbers, doing more in 47 months than any POTUS ever, sorting out US position in the world bringing all those coal jobs back?

Isn't that what all his supporters keep telling us? That basically everything is the best it ever has been.

Let's be fair here - the whole 5 miles of wall.

Credit where it's due.

Overheal

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Let's be fair here - the whole 5 miles of wall.

Credit where it's due.

Trump: "The Wall is almost done!"

The wall: 5 WHOLE(?) extra miles of fenced border added during Trump's presidency.

Kermit.de.frog

haha OANN. A step below "The Onion". No remotely credible news organisation will touch this sh!te.

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1317933058075455488

Overheal

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

haha OANN. A step below "The Onion". No remotely credible news organisation will touch this sh!te.

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1317933058075455488

This drip drip drip has all the hallmarks of things like ACORN (dud), Selling Fetus Parts (hoax), Migrant Invasion Apocalypse (nope), etc

At least when Wikileaks had the Podesta emails, they didn't play hide the spoon about it. This is amateur stuff and America has seen them play this game of crying wolf before.

briany

briany wrote: »

In the Simpsons, there's an episode where Homer runs for Springfield sanitation commissioner because of a petty grudge and bases his campaign off of crazy promises. He even lands a good zinger on the incumbent during their debate. He even claimed that the incumbent tried to lure children into a gingerbread house. The similarities between this plotline and the presidential campaign have been noted by many people, but I'm just wistful for the days when that was an outlandish story and not an eerie portent. It would not be at all surprising at this point if Trump made a direct claim about Biden having lascivious intentions towards children (he may have skirted around the idea a time or two, it's hard to keep up with all the mad stuff he says), and he's certainly not attempting to reign in the conspiracy theory among his base that Hillary Clinton and Biden are part of a ring of satanistic paedophiles. American politics certainly needs to get back to certain level of decency and respect in political discourse and get back to some sort of shared reality because you can't even have a proper debate if you're both living in parallel universes, essentially, where you cannot even agree on the basic facts to argue around.

If you're a Simpson's fan you would notice that they point out the dirty tricks campaign stuff a lot and reference a few well know historical ones (season six where sideshow bob runs for mayor for example), It's one of the main expectations of American presidential election campaigns.

Graham

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

haha OANN. A step below "The Onion". No remotely credible news organisation will touch this sh!te.

Even the NY Post are staying quiet

so far

Chris_Heilong

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

haha OANN. A step below "The Onion". No remotely credible news organisation will touch this sh!te.

You mean the biased American left wing media, maybe it is because they are corrupt AF. This is floating around on the internet and makes for interesting reading.

"CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications and a speech writer for Obama.
NBC’s former President and CEO Jeff Zucker is now President of CNN worldwide. His wife Caryn Nathanson was a Supervisor for NBC and worked on Saturday Night Live.
NBC News Political Analyst, David Axelrod was Obama's Chief Campaign Advisor and Senior Advisor directly to Obama himself.
ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama’s National Security Advisor, who is now on the Netflix Board of Directors. The Obamas just won an Oscar for their Netflix show and the winners quoted the Communist Manifesto.
NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a Board Member of Warren Buffet’s Company Berkshire Hathaway. Buffet raised $920 million for Obama’s campaign.
NBC’s moderator for Meet the Press, David Gregory, is married to Beth Wilkinson, a lawyer defending Hillary in her email scandal.
ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who now works for CNN as a commentator.
ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary.
ABC News chief political correspondent and anchor George Stephanopoulos was the White House Communications Director then Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy for Bill Clinton, and was caught secretly donating $75,000 to the Clinton foundation.
ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.
NBC’s Chelsea Clinton was making $600,000.00 a year + benefits as a starting reporter.
Univision’s Emmy Award Winning Anchor Jorge Ramos’s daughter is working on Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign.
Donna Brazile, Interim Head of the Democrat Party also writes for NBC and CNN. She was fired as head of the DNC for giving Hillary the debate questions before the Presidential Debate.
Yahoo is partnered with ABC News. The CEO of yahoo, Marissa Mayer is also an Obama campaign donor who has donated over $300,000.00 to Obama’s campaigns and has even hosted Obama fundraisers in her own home.
CNN writer Imran Awan, was a staffer for former DNC Chair Debbie “Ramen Hair” Wasserman Shultz, and he was arrested for trying to flee the country while under house arrest.
CNN’s Symone Sanders was the spokesperson for Presidential Campaigns for Bernie Sanders 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020.
Failed Clinton Campaign Manager John Podesta writes for the Washington Post, which uses The Washington Post as a source in its own articles.
NPR is funded by the Podesta Group. The CEO is Tony Podesta, brother of John Podesta.
John Podesta was also the President and CEO of the Liberal Center for American Progress, Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff, and was co-chair of Obama’s Transition team.
CNN’s Chris “Fredo” Cuomo is the brother of Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo and son of Democrat Governor Mario Cuomo. Chris Cuomo previously worked for ABC."

Overheal

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

You mean the biased American left wing media, maybe it is because they are corrupt AF. This is floating around on the internet and makes for interesting reading.

"CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications and a speech writer for Obama.
NBC’s former President and CEO Jeff Zucker is now President of CNN worldwide. His wife Caryn Nathanson was a Supervisor for NBC and worked on Saturday Night Live.
NBC News Political Analyst, David Axelrod was Obama's Chief Campaign Advisor and Senior Advisor directly to Obama himself.
ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama’s National Security Advisor, who is now on the Netflix Board of Directors. The Obamas just won an Oscar for their Netflix show and the winners quoted the Communist Manifesto.
NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a Board Member of Warren Buffet’s Company Berkshire Hathaway. Buffet raised $920 million for Obama’s campaign.
NBC’s moderator for Meet the Press, David Gregory, is married to Beth Wilkinson, a lawyer defending Hillary in her email scandal.
ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who now works for CNN as a commentator.
ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary.
ABC News chief political correspondent and anchor George Stephanopoulos was the White House Communications Director then Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy for Bill Clinton, and was caught secretly donating $75,000 to the Clinton foundation.
ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.
NBC’s Chelsea Clinton was making $600,000.00 a year + benefits as a starting reporter.
Univision’s Emmy Award Winning Anchor Jorge Ramos’s daughter is working on Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign.
Donna Brazile, Interim Head of the Democrat Party also writes for NBC and CNN. She was fired as head of the DNC for giving Hillary the debate questions before the Presidential Debate.
Yahoo is partnered with ABC News. The CEO of yahoo, Marissa Mayer is also an Obama campaign donor who has donated over $300,000.00 to Obama’s campaigns and has even hosted Obama fundraisers in her own home.
CNN writer Imran Awan, was a staffer for former DNC Chair Debbie “Ramen Hair” Wasserman Shultz, and he was arrested for trying to flee the country while under house arrest.
CNN’s Symone Sanders was the spokesperson for Presidential Campaigns for Bernie Sanders 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020.
Failed Clinton Campaign Manager John Podesta writes for the Washington Post, which uses The Washington Post as a source in its own articles.
NPR is funded by the Podesta Group. The CEO is Tony Podesta, brother of John Podesta.
John Podesta was also the President and CEO of the Liberal Center for American Progress, Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff, and was co-chair of Obama’s Transition team.
CNN’s Chris “Fredo” Cuomo is the brother of Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo and son of Democrat Governor Mario Cuomo. Chris Cuomo previously worked for ABC."

Interesting how none of that does anything to actually refute the argument that OAN is not credible.

Graham

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

You mean the biased American left wing media, maybe it is because they are corrupt AF. This is floating around on the internet and makes for interesting reading"

Fox News / NY Post missing from your list of credible news organisations.

Intentional?