Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

normanoffside

Tony entering the goverment meeting today



2 Minutes later

TexasTornado

KaneToad wrote: »

I did. I don't believe him.

Leo is all about Leo and spin. He's always angling for himself.

Deshawn

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Do agreed with one thing Leo said,that information to level 5 should not been released last night with out a government meeting first.

Definitely.

Everything else after that is down to personal opinion. Big split among people.
I also think that Leo shouldn't have made those statements on TV. There needs to be a relationship between the government and nephet. Not anymore

Phoebas

If the whole country is going to level 3 from tomorrow night, does that mean Dublin will going back to level 3 too e.g. wet pubs open?

The Belly

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony entering the goverment meeting today



2 Minutes later

big T whats to make a name for him self pension sorted and back dishing out the orders. But he needs to be careful phil tried that and got his arse sacked.

Thomas..

Why don't they just post out the flu jab?

stephenjmcd

Donnelly being well.. Donnelly. No surprise he comes out with this
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1313230709084114950?s=19

MD1990

hard to believe this was made a few months & everyone wanted to keep the health services from being overrun

The Belly

Thomas.. wrote: »

Why don't they just post out the flu jab?

control why can't you buy neurofen plus without 50 questions.

igCorcaigh

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Wait as long as possible it's not due until February, March, I think it was Paul Reid saying to delay getting it the other day in case it's worn off too quick.

It wears off?

JP Liz V1

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Clare Byrne getting a flu jab ? I am on a list waiting for one as the supply is low

GPs seem to have got low supplies

Hurrache

The Belly wrote: »

big T whats to make a name for him self pension sorted and back dishing out the orders. But he needs to be careful phil tried that and got his arse sacked.

What ****e are you talking?

Widdensushi

Phoebas wrote: »

If the whole country is going to level 3 from tomorrow night, does that mean Dublin will going back to level 3 too e.g. wet pubs open?

What pub would open after months to have a maximum of 15 customers outside in the cold and rain?

Hurrache

MD1990 wrote: »

hard to believe this was made a few months & everyone wanted to keep the health services from being overrun

It's just a case of empty vessels really.

Chicke

Few thoughts

Hopefully the nephet recommendation will give a reality check to those in our community who havent been complying with the regulations.

Think not moving to level 5 now for a short period of time will lead to a much worse situation later in year.

Finally if the basis of nephets recommendation is the expected issues around icu beds ,how come the hSE have a different view
Who is wrong? Has the HSE been witholding information? Why arnt the communication channels not working between NEPHET amd the hse.how can we trust any recommendations by nephet if their information isnt.accurate?

Jim_Hodge

Phoebas wrote: »

If the whole country is going to level 3 from tomorrow night, does that mean Dublin will going back to level 3 too e.g. wet pubs open?

:rolleyes: FFS just read the details. Widely available.

In Dublin at present, restaurants and cafes (including bars/pubs serving food) remain open for takeaway and delivery and outdoor dining to a maximum of 15 people. Wet pubs are closed and will remain closed under the new restrictions.

Phoebas

Widdensushi wrote: »

What pub would open after months to have a maximum of 15 customers outside in the cold and rain?

I don't have a list - I was just asking a question about the rules.

martingriff

c montgomery wrote: »

Feeling 20 years younger apparently

Covid, sheep in wolf's clothing

Maybe went in for a canonical irrigation works wonders I hear

Goldengirl

speckle wrote: »

Bahrain is 'richer' than us, but it was actually effective leadership that was the key point, they did spend more than us initially but we will end up spending that in the long run, the way we are going.


Actually. the have trained their own and we have trained some here as well. Yes there is Irish medical staff working there, some of which expressed a wish to come home to help here.


And yes of course I know we have separated covid and covid patients here.I am not sure what you are talking about my examples did we manage to put in place a staffed 130 bed ICU here?


I have nearly every time pointed out when posting, we also need extra staff, but in emergencys you have to start working with what you have.


Do we wait for the extra staff and when we have them only start boosting capacity/building temporary ICU's?


I do feel your and other medical staff's frustration, I have friends and family working in healthcare all over this country and abroad. And I know how much harder you are working especially in thje background.



So I will post again,


We need extra ICU staff please come home to Ireland. Please stay in Ireland if you qualify this year. Please pass this message on, all social media and also tell your TD's to sort a quicker registration process.

No ..your examples are the tent for separation of Covid /non Covid which I said has already been done here, but not a tent obviously .
As I have said a few times before, calling for staff to come back is pointless as they won't be back or registered within 3 months .
So would be there for the third wave maybe .
HSE need to take the responsibility of hiring back nurses with specialist training who have emigrated , flying them home and paying them properly , which they won't .
They didn't even fasttrack re registration for these nurses , who were left hanging around with agency work as HCAs until they could no longer afford it and went back to the country they came from .
Some could not do that due to lockdown .
Don't believe a word from that Paul Reid .

Mervyn Skidmore

A lot of people here seem to be praising the government for standing up to NPHET. Showing them who's in charge, etc. It's bizarre, they're only trying to protect people. This isn't a win.

Merrymac

Can cafes and restaurants open for indoor dining at Level 3 after midnight tmrw?
According to the Plan Level 3 states they are open with restrictions on indoor dining however Dublin and Donegal were forced to close

TonyMaloney

The thrust of Varadkar's argument was that NPET hadn't thought it through.

Pretty damning. But it's not like NPHET were proposing something unheard of - it's level 5 of a plan set out by Varadkar and the government.
It's their plan. Do they not have answers to some of those questions themselves?

Have we a 5 phase plan where phase 4 and 5 are completely off-limits because they're "experimental" and nobody has thought them through?

ffs

TexasTornado

MD1990 wrote: »

hard to believe this was made a few months & everyone wanted to keep the health services from being overrun

People only care about themselves now. Same people where all about "clapping for the HSE" a few short months ago. They'll be moaning in a few weeks about not moving to level 5 again quick enough.

verizon

Is there a reason there wasn't a greater breakdown of the cases by county today.

If I can add speculation to the flames, are we becoming 1 island where case numbers impact the level for the whole country?

The Belly

Hurrache wrote: »

What ****e are you talking?

why would you come back to the job and call for a level 5 lockdown? could retire forget about it. Big shock back and level five called for .he is power-hungry and needs it. And don't give me any pony about its for the greater good. he wants to be in charge.

Earendil

Widdensushi wrote: »

What pub would open after months to have a maximum of 15 customers outside in the cold and rain?

I don’t know. But I’ll go there if they’ll have me!!

amadangomor

TexasTornado wrote: »

The day the government abandoned the elderly and those most at risk. Disgusting.

I was all for hard lockdown back in March when we didn't understand the virus and we didn't understand the implications of a lockdown. It was fully justified then.

Things have moved on and we need some balance now. The elderly and those at risk need to be isolating now but life needs to move on for the majority.

rob316

TexasTornado wrote: »

Richard Boyd Barrett speaking a lot of sense here.

Socialists love free money

gmisk

Chicke wrote: »

Few thoughts

Hopefully the nephet recommendation will give a reality check to those in our community who havent been complying with the regulations.

Think not moving to level 5 now for a short period of time will lead to a much worse situation later in year.

Finally if the basis of nephets recommendation is the expected issues around icu beds ,how come the hSE have a different view
Who is wrong? Has the HSE been witholding information? Why arnt the communication channels not working between NEPHET amd the hse.how can we trust any recommendations by nephet if their information isnt.accurate?

NPHET.....
I hope the threat of level 5 might wise a few people up too btw

xabi

What were the additional restrictions for Dublin above level 3 when they went to level 3.5?